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Right now, the Disney+/FX show is going into its 4th season so they'd be getting money from that. Monetization is just what you'd think it is, merch sales.

Their stadium isn't really an issue yet but it will be if they want to stay in the Championship long term. They'll get a money boost from promotion but this will be by far their biggest challenge yet. They'll also have to make some tough decisions on players, for example Paul Mullin is decent for the lower leagues but he's not Championship quality level.
If they can get their stadium up to 30000, they won't be out of line with other Championship teams. The issue will be filling it, as @ps241 was saying... although, lots of teams in that league draw from markets in the 200,000 population range (wrexham is 135,000)

I could see them keeping Mullin around in some capacity off the pitch, as he's been the face of the team during the rise. Plus, who knows how much more he has in him after his surgery
 
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Right now, the Disney+/FX show is going into its 4th season so they'd be getting money from that. Monetization is just what you'd think it is, merch sales.

Their stadium isn't really an issue yet but it will be if they want to stay in the Championship long term. They'll get a money boost from promotion but this will be by far their biggest challenge yet. They'll also have to make some tough decisions on players, for example Paul Mullin is decent for the lower leagues but he's not Championship quality level.

I am going deep down the rabbit hole like a Wrexham coal miner from another century. I’ll get back to you with an executive summary on the topic if you are interested.
 
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Right now, the Disney+/FX show is going into its 4th season so they'd be getting money from that. Monetization is just what you'd think it is, merch sales.

Their stadium isn't really an issue yet but it will be if they want to stay in the Championship long term. They'll get a money boost from promotion but this will be by far their biggest challenge yet. They'll also have to make some tough decisions on players, for example Paul Mullin is decent for the lower leagues but he's not Championship quality level.
They did sell a minority stake in the team last year
 
They did sell a minority stake in the team last year

I was listening to a podcast with Humphrey Ker on it and he was addressing this topic and he said if (when) they make to the premiere division Rob and Ryan might need to sell majority ownership to another individual with the Premier league level wealth and stay on as the guys running it. I hope Humphrey was just spitballing because that isn’t really how decabillionaire’s and business works.
 
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I was listening to a podcast with Humphrey Ker on it and he was addressing this topic and he said if (when) they make to the premiere division Rob and Ryan might need to sell majority ownership to another individual with the Premier league level wealth and stay on as the guys running it. I hope Humphrey was just spitballing because that isn’t really how decabillionaire’s and business works.
I actually don’t see Ryan as a long term owner, or at least not an active majority one… I think he likely sells his whole stake or a majority of it either when they reach premier level or they level off a bit in either league one or championship, then he’ll become a quiet minority owner…Rob on the other hand seems to really be invested in the team, so he might stay on actively…but I think it’s very likely that Wrexham will have new majority ownership within 5 years.
 
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I actually don’t see Ryan as a long term owner, or at least not an active majority one… I think he likely sells his whole stake or a majority of it either when they reach premier level or they level off a bit in either league one or championship, then he’ll become a quiet minority owner…Rob on the other hand seems to really be invested in the team, so he might stay on actively…but I think it’s very likely that Wrexham will have new majority ownership within 5 years.

It has been my experience when founders (I consider Rob and Ryan similar to founders) sell “control” to large money (Private, Venture, PE) the marriage doesn’t last long. It’s kind of next to impossible for someone to watch their culture get changed and not have final say. The realization hits fast that this is no longer your business.

In some ways if they make it to the Premier league there was a pre-designed obsolescence to their vision. I wonder how much they thought about that aspect.

Where I think it’s going to be tough for both Rob and Ryan is moving on from their commitment to the city and the people. It’s not like selling your piece in a Gin Brand or Marketing company. There must be an emotional attachment to their journey that is so multi-dimensional.

So obviously I am getting way ahead of myself. It could take years for them to make it to the level and in the mean time they will have so much development to focus on. At some point there will probably be tougher times and the fans might turn on them a bit or it could get way less fun.
 
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I actually don’t see Ryan as a long term owner, or at least not an active majority one… I think he likely sells his whole stake or a majority of it either when they reach premier level or they level off a bit in either league one or championship, then he’ll become a quiet minority owner…Rob on the other hand seems to really be invested in the team, so he might stay on actively…but I think it’s very likely that Wrexham will have new majority ownership within 5 years.

Rob does seem really married to the venture but he could probably triple his families net worth on the sale of his share of this asset if they make the premier league within 5 years and he could set his family up for life. Security is such a tough thing to turn away from especially for a guy that lives in the feast or famine Hollywood bubble.
 
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Rob does seem really married to the venture but he could probably triple his families net worth on the sale of his share of this asset if they make the premier league within 5 years and he could set his family up for life. Security is such a tough thing to turn away from especially for a guy that lives in the feast or famine Hollywood bubble.
He seems more of a businessman over long term investor…he built the gin company and sold it for a big profit once it was hugely popular…built the cell company and sold it for a big profit once it was hugely popular…both times keeping a small stake in the companies to keep some money flowing in with zero or close to zero work from him….he’s made a fair amount on his business ventures and I see this being the latest one. This is why I think it’s likely he sells, but keeps a small minority stake in the team…also staying slightly involved gives him the ability to interact with and help the Wrexham community at large. Even with the sale of the minority stake in Wrexham, Ryan and Rob got majority stake in Wrexham Lager, and will be building that up globally.
I do think, and this is just my opinion, but I think he’s hoping to get a stake in either the Vancouver Canucks or Vancouver Whitecaps…that I think he’ll keep. If the Canucks ever go up for sale, I’m betting there will be a ownership group including him that makes an offer
 
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Jets, Bombers, Patriots, Arsenal FC. Eh, I guess I’ll fit Valour FC in there as well.

Duke University for college sports, though not really invested anymore. Red Sox I guess for MLB, again not really invested. NBA I enjoy but no favourite team.
 
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Jets, Bombers, Patriots, Arsenal FC. Eh, I guess I’ll fit Valour FC in there as well.

Duke University for college sports, though not really invested anymore. Red Sox I guess for MLB, again not really invested. NBA I enjoy but no favourite team.
I picked up Arsenal as a Premier league team to cheer for as I became more of a football fan

Their women's side won the Woman's Champions League today.... big deal to us since my daughter playing high level soccer got us into this
 
I'm a Jays fan who doesn't watch the team (at least the last couple of years).

I know baseball is married to tradition, but they HAVE to open up the playoffs a bit more. I just don't get why they havent yet.

It's really hard to get invested in a 162 game schedule when you know your team doesn't stand a chance in hell of making the post season.

Cut the regular season down to 130 games and then add those in playoff rounds. You can charge more for those games, AND the side benefit is you'll have more teams in the race til the end which means better attendance..

Other than that I really want to get into MLS. I think I'd cheer for Miami, I love their pink kits and they have a hottie playing for them :P
 
I'm a Jays fan who doesn't watch the team (at least the last couple of years).

I know baseball is married to tradition, but they HAVE to open up the playoffs a bit more. I just don't get why they havent yet.

It's really hard to get invested in a 162 game schedule when you know your team doesn't stand a chance in hell of making the post season.

Cut the regular season down to 130 games and then add those in playoff rounds. You can charge more for those games, AND the side benefit is you'll have more teams in the race til the end which means better attendance..

Other than that I really want to get into MLS. I think I'd cheer for Miami, I love their pink kits and they have a hottie playing for them :P
I'm a Braves fan... as bad as it is to watch a team play 162 games and not make the playoffs, it's also bad to watch a team for 162 games and get bounced in the first round.... it's happened to Altalnta the past two seasons.

Two years ago, they kicked the shit out of everyone and lost in the first round.. Last year, they snuck in on the very last game... same thing

As for MLS... once I started watching Premier League, MLS is tough to watch. It be kind of like saying "I'm really trying to get into watching the ECHL" lol
 
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I'm a Braves fan... as bad as it is to watch a team play 162 games and not make the playoffs, it's also bad to watch a team for 162 games and get bounced in the first round.... it's happened to Altalnta the past two seasons.

Two years ago, they kicked the shit out of everyone and lost in the first round.. Last year, they snuck in on the very last game... same thing

As for MLS... once I started watching Premier League, MLS is tough to watch. It be kind of like saying "I'm really trying to get into watching the ECHL" lol
I am deffo open to watching more futbol. My main thing about sport is, I HAVE to have someone to cheer for. Sometimes, if it benefits the team I'm cheering for or I absolutely HATE a team I can watch a game that doesn't involve my team, but other than that I just can't get into it.

Take hockey playoffs, for instance. I haven't watched on second since the Jets got bounced. I tried to watch a bit of Dallas Colorado in round one but was bored to tears.

I love watching international footy, and now that Canada's Mens and Womens teams are starting to make some inroads I can get into it.

I guess I could find a Premiere league team to cheer on
 
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I am deffo open to watching more futbol. My main thing about sport is, I HAVE to have someone to cheer for. Sometimes, if it benefits the team I'm cheering for or I absolutely HATE a team I can watch a game that doesn't involve my team, but other than that I just can't get into it.

Take hockey playoffs, for instance. I haven't watched on second since the Jets got bounced. I tried to watch a bit of Dallas Colorado in round one but was bored to tears.

I love watching international footy, and now that Canada's Mens and Womens teams are starting to make some inroads I can get into it.

I guess I could find a Premiere league team to cheer on
I randomly picked Arsenal as my Premier league team prior to last season... this year they fashioned 2nd in the league and made it to the semis of Champions League

My initial take was to pick a small market underdog like the Jets, but then I was like "f*** it, I want to cheer for a team that actually has a chance at winning some time"... not that the Gunners have won any time lately lol
 
It's really hard to get invested in a 162 game schedule when you know your team doesn't stand a chance in hell of making the post season.

I'm sorry, a how many game schedule? :eek3:

In other news, my rugby team won.

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I'm sorry, a how many game schedule? :eek3:

In other news, my rugby team won.

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People complain that baseball players aren't "athletes", but 162 games a year for MLB requires some kind of something. Staring pitchers only pitch every 5th game, but should pitch into the 7th inning regularly

It's just a different type of athleticism compared to football or especially rugby
 
Cocodrilos de Matanzas and Tigres de Quintana Roo. Cuban League finals will be going in a few days. Has been a disastrous 5 years for Cuban baseball, but they are playing at least 😬
 
I'm a Jays fan who doesn't watch the team (at least the last couple of years).

I know baseball is married to tradition, but they HAVE to open up the playoffs a bit more. I just don't get why they havent yet.

It's really hard to get invested in a 162 game schedule when you know your team doesn't stand a chance in hell of making the post season.

Cut the regular season down to 130 games and then add those in playoff rounds. You can charge more for those games, AND the side benefit is you'll have more teams in the race til the end which means better attendance..

Other than that I really want to get into MLS. I think I'd cheer for Miami, I love their pink kits and they have a hottie playing for them :P
This is why I take a look at where the Jay's are in the standings in August. If they are in the playoffs I'll pay attention. If not, I won't even watch a highlight.
 
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