OT: Other Sports: Broncos, Nuggets, Rockies etc…Part VII

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Just because Melo won some games for the Nuggets doesn’t negate the fact that he was a total complete a$$…..I’m not even sure how fans can say he rescued the org when he told us he didn’t want to be any part of it.
We had one winning season and one .500 season in the 13 years preceding his arrival, including 8 straight losing seasons leading up to drafting him. Then he got here and we had 10 straight winning seasons, including the two after he left. And he did us a gigantic favor by telling us he wasn't going to re-sign (he didn't actually demand a trade, he just told the front office he planned to sign with the Knicks no matter what). That allowed us to get a great return for him that included several quality players and the draft pick we used to get Jamal Murray. He could have just strung us along and then left for nothing like LeBron did to the Cavaliers and we'd have been left with the aging husk of a former contender. The Carmelo trade netted us Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Will Barton, Monte Morris, Kosta Koufos, Timofey Mozgov, etc. The picks and further trades from that deal eventually netted us five guys from the 2023 championship roster. Jamal Murray, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Ish Smith, Vlatko Cancar, and Zeke Nnaji all came from the Carmelo trade.

I'm not saying he hasn't acted like a clown since he left, but it's revisionist history to pretend he didn't rescue us from being a laughingstock.
 
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We had one winning season and one .500 season in the 13 years preceding his arrival, including 8 straight losing seasons leading up to drafting him. Then he got here and we had 10 straight winning seasons, including the two after he left. And he did us a gigantic favor by telling us he wasn't going to re-sign (he didn't actually demand a trade, he just told the front office he planned to sign with the Knicks no matter what). That allowed us to get a great return for him that included several quality players and the draft pick we used to get Jamal Murray. He could have just strung us along and then left for nothing like LeBron did to the Cavaliers and we'd have been left with the aging husk of a former contender. The Carmelo trade netted us Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Will Barton, Monte Morris, Kosta Koufos, Timofey Mozgov, etc. The picks and further trades from that deal eventually netted us five guys from the 2023 championship roster. Jamal Murray, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Ish Smith, Vlatko Cancar, and Zeke Nnaji all came from the Carmelo trade.

I'm not saying he hasn't acted like a clown since he left, but it's revisionist history to pretend he didn't rescue us from being a laughingstock.

Could have and should have drafted Dwyane Wade instead. He was a better player.
 
We had one winning season and one .500 season in the 13 years preceding his arrival, including 8 straight losing seasons leading up to drafting him. Then he got here and we had 10 straight winning seasons, including the two after he left. And he did us a gigantic favor by telling us he wasn't going to re-sign (he didn't actually demand a trade, he just told the front office he planned to sign with the Knicks no matter what). That allowed us to get a great return for him that included several quality players and the draft pick we used to get Jamal Murray. He could have just strung us along and then left for nothing like LeBron did to the Cavaliers and we'd have been left with the aging husk of a former contender. The Carmelo trade netted us Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Will Barton, Monte Morris, Kosta Koufos, Timofey Mozgov, etc. The picks and further trades from that deal eventually netted us five guys from the 2023 championship roster. Jamal Murray, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Ish Smith, Vlatko Cancar, and Zeke Nnaji all came from the Carmelo trade.

I'm not saying he hasn't acted like a clown since he left, but it's revisionist history to pretend he didn't rescue us from being a laughingstock.
Someone is clearly a huge melo fan
 
Someone is clearly a huge melo fan
Yeah exactly. I don’t care who we netted in a trade back after he forced his way outta town. If that’s the bar for being a franchise guy, then Eric Lindros’ shirt should have been up there 20 years ago.

It’s also super weird that when the Nuggets won the chip that all of a sudden Melo was all over social media like he was a lifelong Nuggets fan or something. Just odd.
 
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It's not about being a Melo fan, it's about acknowledging the objective facts of reality.

Melo brought us 10 straight winning seasons after we only had one in the previous 13. That's an undeniable fact. Before Carmelo got here, Rocky the mascot was quite literally the face of the franchise and the most popular entity associated with the Denver Nuggets. Think about that for a second.
 
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It's not about being a Melo fan, it's about acknowledging the objective facts of reality.

Melo brought us 10 straight winning seasons after we only had one in the previous 13. That's an undeniable fact. Before Carmelo got here, Rocky the mascot was quite literally the face of the franchise and the most popular entity associated with the Denver Nuggets. Think about that for a second.
You must be just a massive Matt Duchene fan to this day
 
You must be just a massive Matt Duchene fan to this day
I'm not even a Carmelo fan, much less a Duchene fan.

You're just denying the basic facts of reality because you're emotional and butthurt.

1 winning season in 13 years. That's what this franchise had before Carmelo got here. Then we had 10 straight winning seasons and traded Carmelo for 1/3 of our championship roster. Those are the facts.
 
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I'm not even a Carmelo fan, much less a Duchene fan.

You're just denying the basic facts of reality because you're emotional and butthurt.

1 winning season in 13 years. That's what this franchise had before Carmelo got here. Then we had 10 straight winning seasons and traded Carmelo for 1/3 of our championship roster. Those are the facts.
You absolutely are, you're dying on this hill as we speak.

I actually never once denied any of the facts you presented, they just don't mean shit to me because I think he's a prick who deserves none of our respect, regardless of how many empty points he scored here. I don't like him as a person. Is that clear enough for you?
 
You absolutely are, you're dying on this hill as we speak.

I actually never once denied any of the facts you presented, they just don't mean shit to me because I think he's a prick who deserves none of our respect, regardless of how many empty points he scored here. I don't like him as a person. Is that clear enough for you?
Nobody asked you if you liked him as a person and nobody cares. This discussion was about whether or not he rescued our franchise from the trash heap of the NBA, and he absolutely and objectively did exactly that.

Me: he revitalized basketball in this city
You: no he didn't

That's how this started. This was never about who likes the guy or why.
 
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Nobody asked you if you liked him as a person and nobody cares. This discussion was about whether or not he rescued our franchise from the trash heap of the NBA, and he absolutely and objectively did exactly that.

Me: he revitalized basketball in this city
You: no he didn't

That's how this started. This was never about who likes the guy or why.
f*** carmelo anthony and I hope we never consider honoring him for any reason whatsoever.

I'll boo his ass until the day I die
 
Some excellent news from Nugs practice today: Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter Jr, Russell Westbrook, and Vlatko Cancar were all FULL participants in practice today. Only Peyton Watson wasn't able to go.

Even DaRon Holmes was able to practice some, even though his injury timeline is unchanged and he's still out for the season.
 
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Some excellent news from Nugs practice today: Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter Jr, Russell Westbrook, and Vlatko Cancar were all FULL participants in practice today. Only Peyton Watson wasn't able to go.

Even DaRon Holmes was able to practice some, even though his injury timeline is unchanged and he's still out for the season.
They’ve got the Hornets on the second night of a back to back.
 
I wonder if he was coming off some sort of illness from the break. He looked low energy to me
He hadn't played since the 6th and he's still listed with his hamstring injury.

Russ was also very, very rusty last night and Gordon is clearly still feeling the calf.

Zeke was an absolute disasterclass on offense yesterday. I don't need to see him getting minutes if Gordon and Porter are active.
 
f*** carmelo anthony and I hope we never consider honoring him for any reason whatsoever.

I'll boo his ass until the day I die
He pulled the franchise out of total irrelevancy, before that the team was trying to build around Nikoloz Tskitishvilli.

He's a horse's ass who engineered his way out of town and has been busy since then torpedoing any goodwill with Denver he has left, so I have no time whatsoever for him now, but he was an elite talent who played amazingly well during his time in Denver. I don't see why that's such a big deal, we don't have to deny that he was a great player in order to say he wasn't that great a guy.
 
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He pulled the franchise out of total irrelevancy, before that the team was trying to build around Nikoloz Tskitishvilli.

He's a horse's ass who engineered his way out of town and has been busy since then torpedoing any goodwill with Denver he has left, so I have no time whatsoever for him now, but he was an elite talent who played amazingly well during his time in Denver. I don't see why that's such a big deal, we don't have to deny that he was a great player in order to say he wasn't that great a guy.
I won't dispute the facts, I just happen to think his behavior has tarnished his legacy so much that his meager successes here shouldn't even really be acknowledged
 
I won't dispute the facts, I just happen to think his behavior has tarnished his legacy so much that his meager successes here shouldn't even really be acknowledged
Oh, I'd say his successes were more than just meager. The team didn't have a ton of postseason success, but I still remember them officially making the playoffs after sooooooo many years of absolutely nothing. And without him the Nuggets weren't just mediocre, they were outright bad.

I have no problem looking back on those first years of Carmelo happily. He made watching basketball fun again (and in the days of Raef Lafrentz and Nick Van Exel, it was NOT). Just because he turned out to be a selfish jackass doesn't tarnish my memory of that, if anything, trading him away garnered the team key assets that helped them win their first championship.

Also, those powder blue and gold uniforms were fantastic. Easily the second-best Nuggets uniforms behind the classic Skylines (I despise the current look).
 

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