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Blackhawkswincup said:
Meh

He has been pretty terrible hitter for like 5-6 years now

Still a solid defender but meh

Won't hurt to have him on roster to finish out year most likely but I wouldn't expect much from him at this point
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His wRC+ this season is 120% better than Leury.

No, he's not the player he was in his in prime, but he's still a better option that what they have.
 
The White Sox LOL….

What a joke this organization is.

“Look out guys we had a team meeting and as it turns out we were just being too cocky and now we’re gonna start taking things seriously, that’s why we’re winning now. And Cueto lit a fire. Look out!”

LOLOLOLOL

Sox are a disgrace. Plz fire everybody and somehow get new ownership.
 
If you can watch how the sox have hit this year and not see how bad their approach and coaching staff is, i envy you. Its remarkable how many baserunners it takes for them to score runs and a testament to how bad menechino is at his job. At one point, they and the astros both had 18 bb+h and they were losing by 9 runs!
 
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madgoat33 said:
If you can watch how the sox have hit this year and not see how bad their approach and coaching staff is, i envy you. Its remarkable how many baserunners it takes for them to score runs and a testament to how bad menechino is at his job. At one point, they and the astros both had 18 bb+h and they were losing by 9 runs!
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Astros have superior talent throughout the lineup too. That coupled with the poor coaching/approach = complete disaster.
 
SimpleJack said:
Astros have superior talent throughout the lineup too. That coupled with the poor coaching/approach = complete disaster.
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With terrible coaching/approach, you have no idea what kind of talent you have in the lineup. This lineup can go toe-to-toe with pretty much any in baseball, IMO. They're just being coached to play a style of ball that hasn't existed in 20 years.
 
21-5...Beyond himiliation...forever goes down in the annals as The August 18th Massacre.

Surrender...futility...incompetence all under the watch of Mr Snooze-off,TLR ..

Houston makes a statement...Contender vs.Pretender...
 
ChiHawks10 said:
With terrible coaching/approach, you have no idea what kind of talent you have in the lineup. This lineup can go toe-to-toe with pretty much any in baseball, IMO. They're just being coached to play a style of ball that hasn't existed in 20 years.
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In the Sox's case, we've got a pretty good idea. Coaching is part of the problem, talent is another. They have some talent, it just isn't nearly as good as the hype has been the last two years. They continue to struggle in embarrassing fashion against the legitimate contenders (25-34 now vs teams above .500) and their basic fundamentals continue to be awful.

They can't manufacture runs or do the little things. They keep making the same mistakes over and over. They're 27th in the league in fielding and errors, and frankly if they haven't figured this stuff out now no amount of coaching will change anything. They're just a mess.
 
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ChiHawks10 said:
With terrible coaching/approach, you have no idea what kind of talent you have in the lineup. This lineup can go toe-to-toe with pretty much any in baseball, IMO. They're just being coached to play a style of ball that hasn't existed in 20 years.
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When you see guys like Eloy and AV fail to make routine plays in the OF how is that coaching?

And those are supposed to be 2 of our best/most talented young pieces….
 
SimpleJack said:
When you see guys like Eloy and AV fail to make routine plays in the OF how is that coaching?

And those are supposed to be 2 of our best/most talented young pieces….
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The discussion was about offense, not defense. Wtf are you talking about routine plays in the field for? My comments were geared towards what was actually being discussed... the plate approach/hitting by this lineup.

And Vaughn isn't an outfielder... terrible coaching has tried to jam square pegs into rounds holes.
 
Oh BS

Hahn would have gone elsewhere if not given control he was supposedly "Highly regarded" around MLB and one of the reasons he was promoted was because Sox didn't want to lose him

KW golfs, Represents Jerry at various events he can't attend with regard to franchise functions and and does little else nowadays

It's been very apparent for several years that Hahn is fully in control
 
Blackhawkswincup said:
Oh BS

Hahn would have gone elsewhere if not given control he was supposedly "Highly regarded" around MLB and one of the reasons he was promoted was because Sox didn't want to lose him

KW golfs, Represents Jerry at various events he can't attend with regard to franchise functions and and does little else nowadays

It's been very apparent for several years that Hahn is fully in control
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Agree to disagree.

If Hahn were in control, this team would have acquired things they actually needed this past offseason.

Either way, it doesn't really matter. Because without spending to bring in the pieces they really need, like another TOR guy, and a RF, they aren't going to be any more than a playoff team, and never a true AL contender.
 
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I swear, it's the same conversation every week 🤣

This isn't that hard guys. Jerry sets the budget for the season. There's no guarantee that budget will be there in years to come (I've already seen rumors they'll need to lower payroll without a playoff appearance).

Hahn operates within that budget - that's not TOTAL control in the slightest. That's what leads to all the stopgap measures: Pollock, Harrison, VV, Cueto, the pen...
 
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Pez68 said:
Vaughn isn't an outfielder. How do you continue to miss this?
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Lol EXACTLY MY POINT

We have a flawed roster with too many DHs.

What did I miss???

madgoat33 said:
Vaughn isn't an OF, he's a 1b/dh who's in the OF because hahn stinks.
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Yup. Too many DHs playing out of position. And that’s not on TLR. It’s the way the roster is constructed. Poor defense everywhere u look with a few exceptions.

“Continue” to miss? Lol wtf are u(meaning Pezz) talking about.
 
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