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OT: Do The Leafs Still Dominate The Toronto Sports Landscape?Or Its A Raptor Town?

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CokenoPepsi said:
Yes they have some diehard core support i said.

But if Leonard leaves and they are suddenly no longer a playoff team you will see most people no longer care...just like again nobody cares about the Jays now
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Do you think a rapidly growing sport is the same as bandwagon?

I’ve always thought of bandwagon like how the Chicago Blackhawks played in an empty echoing building for years and suddenly some high picks breathe life and it’s ‘the Mad House on Madison’. Those aren’t real fans, obviously. That’s bandwagon.

I would think a new generation of fans of a team that’s been around for less than 25 years is kind of different, though?

Jays get love in the summer. Nobody cares right now when there’s still real sports going on.
 
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sparxx87 said:
Do you think a rapidly growing sport is the same as bandwagon?

I’ve always thought of bandwagon like how the Chicago Blackhawks played in an empty echoing building for years and suddenly some high picks breathe life and it’s ‘the Mad House on Madison’. Those aren’t real fans, obviously. That’s bandwagon.

I would think a new generation of fans of a team that’s been around for less than 25 years is kind of different, though?

Jays get love in the summer. Nobody cares right now when there’s still real sports going on.
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Tbh most Raptor home games used to be 25%-50% empty during the decade between the "Wethenorth" era and the VC era from the early 2000s. The raps were an afterthought franchise both in Canada and across the NBA for much of their existence, which is what makes this run all the more impressive since they literally built from the bottom.

Again, I'm far from a Leafs fan, but their arena is packed whether they're a 100-point team or a 60-point team. They're somehow still the most popular hockey team in the world despite being garbage for over 50 years. The one thing I will comment on though is that Raps games seem more loud and electric than Leafs games which is odd but I guess since the NBA has a younger demographic that there will naturally be a more energetic crowd.
 
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johntanner1787 said:
Tbh most Raptor home games used to be 25%-50% empty during the decade between the "Wethenorth" era and the VC era from the early 2000s. The raps were an afterthought franchise both in Canada and across the NBA for much of their existence, which is what makes this run all the more impressive since they literally built from the bottom.

Again, I'm far from a Leafs fan, but their arena is packed whether they're a 100-point team or a 60-point team. They're somehow still the most popular hockey team in the world despite being garbage for over 50 years. The one thing I will comment on though is that Raps games seem more loud and electric than Leafs games which is odd but I guess since the NBA has a younger demographic that there will naturally be a more energetic crowd.
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Yeah it’s definitely taken time to grow. For me the most noticeable difference has been the last few years. They’ve consistently been a good team and now have an entire generation in existence. None of the 18-32 yr old demographic really remember life without the Toronto Raptors anymore.

The growth in Canadian basketball as whole over the past 10 years has been exceptional. Great to see.
 

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CokenoPepsi said:
It just a bandwagon.

Raptors have some core support but will never be close to the Leafs.

Watch if they lose in the Finals and then Leonard leaves nobody will care again...though attendance won't be as bad like the Blue Jays right now since the tickets are tied with the Leafs
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Actually the raptors are more popular with Toronto's ethnic community than the Leafs are. Give things another 10 years and I bet they will rival the Leafs for popularity.
 

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I met this girl from a very small town about 3 hours away from the GTA and I remember back in September when our topic of discussion switched to sports all of a sudden, and I decided to “test” her about sports by asking her super basic questions like “what’s the nba team in Toronto called” and she literally responded with a dead serious face by saying “there’s a basketball team in Toronto?”.....and then when I asked her to guess the name of it she said the Lakers cuz that’s the only name that somewhat rung a bell lol

Andddd guess what, nine months later, she texts me saying “go raps” and she even bought a raps hat despite knowing nothing about the team or the sport haha
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Yes but exposure like this causes many people to become fans . You have to start somewhere.
 
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DueDiligence said:
Actually the raptors are more popular with Toronto's ethnic community than the Leafs are. Give things another 10 years and I bet they will rival the Leafs for popularity.
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It depends. I’d say Toronto itself its actually pretty split because of what you’ve mentioned. Large sections of Etobicoke and North York are Raptors dominant in particular... it’s the entire GTA that weighs in the Leafs favour IMO.
 

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DueDiligence said:
Actually the raptors are more popular with Toronto's ethnic community than the Leafs are. Give things another 10 years and I bet they will rival the Leafs for popularity.
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no there not, leafs and hockey in general is way more popular in the punjabi/indian/pakistani community...nobody in brampton even cared about basketball until now which is expected...
this minority following raptors is just a myth which gives raptors fans a hope that there relevant
 
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The Leafs will always be king of the hill.
The Raptors are now worth more, and an SCF final press meet won't match the NBA final.
I think many people, just like what MLSE has done for all the teams under their umbrella.
 
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mapleleafJATT said:
no there not, leafs and hockey in general is way more popular in the punjabi/indian/pakistani community...nobody in brampton even cared about basketball until now which is expected...
this minority following raptors is just a myth which gives raptors fans a hope that there relevant
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:laugh: You don’t get out much, huh?
 
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Pyrophorus said:
The Leafs will always be king of the hill.
The Raptors are now worth more, and an SCF final press meet won't match the NBA final.
I think many people, just like what MLSE has done for all the teams under their umbrella.
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NBA valuations are flawed, there pretty much made up since the LA clippers were bought....raptors being worth more than the leafs and yet leafs bringing in more money by far...some is not wrong there...i call bullshit
 

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johntanner1787 said:
Tbh most Raptor home games used to be 25%-50% empty during the decade between the "Wethenorth" era and the VC era from the early 2000s. The raps were an afterthought franchise both in Canada and across the NBA for much of their existence, which is what makes this run all the more impressive since they literally built from the bottom.

Again, I'm far from a Leafs fan, but their arena is packed whether they're a 100-point team or a 60-point team. They're somehow still the most popular hockey team in the world despite being garbage for over 50 years. The one thing I will comment on though is that Raps games seem more loud and electric than Leafs games which is odd but I guess since the NBA has a younger demographic that there will naturally be a more energetic crowd.
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Well the leafs werent garbage for 50 years. The Gilmore/Clark and Sundin Eras has some reqlly good teams, just didnt win a cup.
 

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Vamos Rafa said:
White population is only 26%
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What kind of person openly posts they would only want to live in a white dominante area?

Im not saying brampton is the best spot to live, there are many reasons to not want to live there, but the ethnic breakdown isnt even on the radar.
 

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mapleleafJATT said:
no there not, leafs and hockey in general is way more popular in the punjabi/indian/pakistani community...nobody in brampton even cared about basketball until now which is expected...
this minority following raptors is just a myth which gives raptors fans a hope that there relevant
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Shockingly incorrect. Bravo.
 
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mapleleafJATT said:
no there not, leafs and hockey in general is way more popular in the punjabi/indian/pakistani community...nobody in brampton even cared about basketball until now which is expected...
this minority following raptors is just a myth which gives raptors fans a hope that there relevant
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This is really untrue
 
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