OT: OT-“Look, maybe I didn’t say every single little tiny syllable, no. But basically I said them, yeah.”

[Mike McDermott]

You tried melatonin?

Melatonin is to help you fall asleep at the start of the night, doesn’t help keep you asleep or fall back asleep if you wake up.

Eh, I've found it has diminishing returns. Even from the outset, my experience of it was that there was a 20-minute window when I would be sleepier but then after that, I was WIDE AWAKE.

Hope it turns out to be a simple remedy @Mike McDermott

Yeah when I’ve tried it in the past I just feel super groggy the next day, even more than just normal sleep issues.

We have a plan in place, see how it does and she has a backup plan if plan A doesn’t work.

 

[K8fool]

Smallest to sleep 8 plus hours for non droog tolerant healthy individuals ( 40 to 65 ) but safe ( at your own risk but would give to anyone i knew and cared for without diagnosis or valium allegies etc). is one quarter flexeril w one quarter to one third xanax or half 5 mg valium. Very little hangover like crap melatonin as all the ones that work. Placydyl and barbits short acting were abused and are mostly gone.

Can get thru any stress and heal physically and mentally w assured sleep. Obviously adjusting amounts based on chemical tolerance and experience. And repeat without. moving up dosages for three days

Half xan alone only guarantees 4 hours but may easily get back to sleep w an oat bar or something

No I'm not a doctor but know more than most md thru experience and similar synergies

 

[VaporTrail]

If anyone didn't know Jessica Pegula just started a match against Amanda Anisimova in the Finals of The Canadian Open...Jessica is rare company with how well she's played up there.

 

[Willgamesh]

Smallest to sleep 8 plus hours for non droog tolerant healthy individuals ( 40 to 65 ) but safe ( at your own risk but would give to anyone i knew and cared for without diagnosis or valium allegies etc). is one quarter flexeril w one quarter to one third xanax or half 5 mg valium. Very little hangover like crap melatonin as all the ones that work. Placydyl and barbits short acting were abused and are mostly gone.

Can get thru any stress and heal physically and mentally w assured sleep. Obviously adjusting amounts based on chemical tolerance and experience. And repeat without. moving up dosages for three days

Half xan alone only guarantees 4 hours but may easily get back to sleep w an oat bar or something

No I'm not a doctor but know more than most md thru experience and similar synergies

Telling people to take Benzos to sleep is nutty.

 

[K8fool]

Telling people to take Benzos to sleep is nutty.

Making a habit of anything is incorrect but , nothing on the market , nothing , has less side affects when you absolutely need 8 , 9 hours of sleep than what i very specifically wrote w years of trial and error

Benzos are absolutely one of the most addictive chemicals to come off of . It takes weeks ( i you use constantly for over a month or two ( a week to regain natural sleep cycle and weeks if you take to sleep for a year.

In a one off, bereavement. w whats left on the market taking this for a day or two is much overblown w worry. Id take and recommend this combo IF you have taken both before and absolutely DO NOT DRINK and take an hour before desired sleep period w small food, yogurt etc. I would give to anyone i know. ( this isn't some suable ad on our prisoner tv box )

It is Not recommended and No dr will prescribe but many have experience and many have these common prescriptions .

Anyone who takes advice on a board as permission instead of a suggestion to look it up only , practicing discernment, and decide w complete due diligence IS a NUT , i will concur w that , absolutely.

 

[Gras]

Melatonin is to help you fall asleep at the start of the night, doesn’t help keep you asleep or fall back asleep if you wake up.

Yeah when I’ve tried it in the past I just feel super groggy the next day, even more than just normal sleep issues.

We have a plan in place, see how it does and she has a backup plan if plan A doesn’t work.

I dont get groggy from melatonin, dramamine like Zzzquil would leave me super groggy even after like 10 hours of sleep.

 

[K8fool]

I dont get groggy from melatonin, dramamine like Zzzquil would leave me super groggy even after like 10 hours of sleep.

Zzquil is quite effective under 40 w non consequential use. And safer but still know many myquil addicts. Switching and one offs are key to all strong meds

 

[Der Jaeger]

Dropped my daughter off at Liberty today. First practice was this evening. She’s nervous and overwhelmed but is doing ok.

Campus is beautiful and everyone is nice. However, she’s getting the rookie treatment already: setting up drills and picking up pucks. But her teammates seem nice and supportive so far.

 

[HOOats]

Really hope the doctor can figure out sleep has been so hard to come by and subsequently feeling very fatigued and having problems focusing. Me and sleep have always had our struggles but lately I sleep for 3 to a max of 4 hours and then I’m wide awake and can’t sleep the rest of the night until I fall asleep 30 minutes before my alarm if at all.

In my experience magnesium, specifically magnesium glycinate, has been incredibly effective. Natural Vitality CALM Sleep powder is a near nightly routine for me 30 minutes before bed. It has a touch of melatonin to help knock you out, but I'm getting my most restful sleep ever via the magnesium I believe. And there's plenty of research supporting its emergence as a sleep aid (and we're all devoid of essential salts in general).

Now I also have a pitch black room/eye shade and experiment with mouth taping, but those are more advanced steps lol.

Good luck!

 

[K8fool]

Josh Our responsible community director. Husband of julie McCoy buffalo cruise director says he's sacrificed himself to the pit , for our benefits, sleep included.

Secretly i think he want pinto ron , elvis if he's still kicking to help the fools on doses coke and orher sustances that , rescue blue tanks and folding tables and chairs are waiting for throwing themselves in for the team and the win . Rescue balloon under the sea , always free tailgate . An evolving tradition of love and community.

That also, greatly gave me real sleep.

Apologies as i just watch an interview w mr josh allen /long and wanted to add more spice to warm milk.



Joking aside, the magnesium suggestion is intriguing . Oat bars , banana nut bread have always helped me sleep and that post above suggests why. Interesting.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Really hope the doctor can figure out sleep has been so hard to come by and subsequently feeling very fatigued and having problems focusing. Me and sleep have always had our struggles but lately I sleep for 3 to a max of 4 hours and then I’m wide awake and can’t sleep the rest of the night until I fall asleep 30 minutes before my alarm if at all.

Micro dose on psylocilibin. It’s now legal in Canada and it works. Unfortunately your country still has weird reasons as to why it can’t happen. But micro dosing is a great sleep aid.

 

[TehDoak]

Really hope the doctor can figure out sleep has been so hard to come by and subsequently feeling very fatigued and having problems focusing. Me and sleep have always had our struggles but lately I sleep for 3 to a max of 4 hours and then I’m wide awake and can’t sleep the rest of the night until I fall asleep 30 minutes before my alarm if at all.

There are plenty of cannabis gummies that will knock you out (assuming you don't need a drug test at work) (and you live in a state that it's legal).

I wake up with a slight headache but its effective at getting me out and keeping me out for 6-8 hours.

 

[Bendium]

Zzquil is quite effective under 40 w non consequential use. And safer but still know many myquil addicts. Switching and one offs are key to all strong meds

ZQuil is very effective as long as you dont use it regularly. If I have a couple poor nights sleep, I will take a half dose of zQuil about 30 min before i want to go to sleep and it usually keeps me asleep all night without leaving me groggy the next morning.

 

[HOOats]

There are plenty of cannabis gummies that will knock you out (assuming you don't need a drug test at work) (and you live in a state that it's legal).

I wake up with a slight headache but its effective at getting me out and keeping me out for 6-8 hours.

CBD is pretty damn effective in addition to magnesium. Should be clear on the work drug test (and f*** listening to any state that thinks it can tell you not to take a plant to help you sleep.)

 

[Mike McDermott]

Thanks for all the sleep input everyone. Going to see where things from the doc goes and go from there.

 

[KiwiGriff]

My son has ADHD and he gets prescribed Chlonidine Hydrochloride. It helps to stop his brain running a million miles an hour at bedtime. It's done wonders for his ability to go to sleep.

I wish I could use metric and say a million kilometers an hour, but it sounds shitter and takes longer to say

 

[oldgoalie]

Happy Birthday, Chainshot. Hope the day was a good one for you.

 

[Old Navy Goat]

Happy Birthday, Chainshot. Hope the day was a good one for you.

Happy Birthday @Chainshot there's a ton of people I know with August birthdays. I just survived mine, now I need to manage the new one every other day as they come out to celebrate.

I had the birthday, grand opening of bar #8, and the celebrations that went with it. The girls made me a money necklace and were stapling 20 and 50 baht notes to it, whilst some of my crazier friends came up with the ass squeezes while stapling 100 or 1000 notes on it. A packed new bar, 187 working girls, a full money necklace and face covered in lipstick, plus a rambling diatribe in Korean while shooting soju with Korean youtubers made for an interesting night

 

[slip]

Really hope the doctor can figure out sleep has been so hard to come by and subsequently feeling very fatigued and having problems focusing. Me and sleep have always had our struggles but lately I sleep for 3 to a max of 4 hours and then I’m wide awake and can’t sleep the rest of the night until I fall asleep 30 minutes before my alarm if at all.

Hey Mike sorry to hear about your sleep struggles. As someone who’s battled with insomnia episodes for years I feel your frustration.

Here’s some basic strategies I use:

1) manage your life stress. Easier said than done, but when life becomes overwhelming that stress triggers a parade of thoughts in the middle of the night that makes falling back asleep extremely difficult.

2) good sleep hygiene, including no screens at least an hour before bed, a darkened room (no lights of any sort), and a cool environment. Also get to bed a little sooner than you’re accustomed too. So when you fall back asleep, you get another 1-2 hours in before alarm goes off.

3) physical exertion. Not sure about your work hours but incorporating a strenuous workout into your daily routine, coupled with plenty of cardio (walking, running, biking, HIIT work) lends itself to better sleep quality over a longer duration.

4). Sleep aids. Some are tricky, like melatonin which is a hormone and should be dosed in low quantities. Personally I favor the use of CBD gummies which relaxes my body without any psychoactive properties. f*** ambien. Avoid trazedone if at all possible.

5) drugs and alcohol. Forget’em. Horrible for sleep. Especially weed, which blocks quality REM sleep for occurring. Alcohol interrupts sleep over the course of the night. Straight trash for sleep.

6) when you wake up after 4 hours, don’t fight it. Don’t stress about falling back asleep. Get up and start to read a book if you must get up, but definitely no screens. I find the use of CBD before bed to provide a relaxing benefit that takes the edge off being awake in the middle of the night. If you can, just relax and stay in bed with eyes closed. Your body is still deriving rest and recovery.

7) never look at the time. Ever.

Good luck bro.

 

[Chainshot]

Happy Birthday, Chainshot. Hope the day was a good one for you.

Thanks. Low key so far, about to go to dinner with the kids and R. Hopefully it doesn't suck but I'm already feeling guilty that the place I picked is too expensive.

 

[TheMistyStranger]

Thanks. Low key so far, about to go to dinner with the kids and R. Hopefully it doesn't suck but I'm already feeling guilty that the place I picked is too expensive.

Oi! Happy birthday! And it's worth the price if the experience is positive and memorable. Go enjoy it, dude!

 

[sabremike]

@Chainshot Happy Birthday! Here is your birthday giraffe:

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Thanks. Low key so far, about to go to dinner with the kids and R. Hopefully it doesn't suck but I'm already feeling guilty that the place I picked is too expensive.

Happy bday, Grandpa

 

[cybresabre]

Happy birthday, Chain

 

[K8fool]

ZQuil is very effective as long as you dont use it regularly. If I have a couple poor nights sleep, I will take a half dose of zQuil about 30 min before i want to go to sleep and it usually keeps me asleep all night without leaving me groggy the next morning.

Yes. Key is intermittent use. Same as narcotics and switching and you'll have no issues w some discipline