OP GM Game #1

donghabs98

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Oct 14, 2010
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Phil Kessel
Nicklas Backstrom
James Neal
David Backes
TJ Oshie
Jack Johnson
Dan Girardi
Mike Cammalleri
Dustin Brown
Andy Greene

PM me if you are interested in any of those players. Looking for prospects/picks.
 

donghabs98

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Oct 14, 2010
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Sam Reinhart, Nikita Zadorov, Joel Armia, Matt Hackett

:sabres

Tyler Toffoli, Eric Gelinas, Scott Wedgewood

I'm happy to have added some nice prospects in Reinhart and Zadorov to the mix along with Arnia and Hackett. Thanks to VI for the talks.
 

VanIslander

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Sam Reinhart, Nikita Zadorov, Joel Armia, Matt Hackett

:sabres

Tyler Toffoli, Eric Gelinas, Scott Wedgewood

I'm happy to have added some nice prospects in Reinhart and Zadorov to the mix along with Arnia and Hackett. Thanks to VI for the talks.
CONFIRMED. 22-year-old Toffoli leads the NHL in shorthanded goals (with four!) and has done it in 18 games becoming the fastest since Simon Gagne who scored four in 15 games for the Flyers in 2008-09. Toffoli is having an outstanding fantasy season with eight goals and 18 points in 18 games with a plus-13 rating which is tie for third best in the NHL.

It was one of the most reasonable, pleasant and quick win-win negotiations I've had.
 

VanIslander

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Some people really overvalue prospects. For every one that succeeds to even make the jump to the NHL (often with less of an impact than hyped), there are many who never make it.

22-year-old Toffoli was a two-time 100-point OHLer who HAS made the jump to the NHL successfully and is demonstrating his skills every night on the biggest stage of the NHL against the best players in the world, on pace for a 60+ point season and killing it on the penalty kill as well for the Stanley Cup champions! (14 playoff points in the Kings' cup-winning run was damn impressive)

vs.

Reinhart is a juniors player who had one assist in nine NHL games before being sent down. Will he develop into a 1st line player as is his potential? Or, like many will he settle for 2nd or 3rd line duty if lucky, or not even stick in the NHL?

Toffoli=Reinhart all things considered (when not just starry eyed about it)

Nikita Zadorov
vs
Eric Gelinas

NZ is in his rookie year and Gelinas is in his sophomore year, having scored 29 points and turned head with his solid play in all three zones. He is a 2nd pairing NHLer who still could develop into a first pairing guy.

The goalies are a wash as neither may stick in the NHL (so hard to predict at that position).

And while I like what I've seen of prospect Joel Armia internationally, if I had a nickel for every Finn forward I've seen drafted who didn't make the jump, I'd be able to buy us all a lobster and steak dinner!

The deal would be dead even if Armia wasn't in it. That was the difference and it isn't a veto-worthy gap.
 

xxOPPNOOBZxx

#ProduceForKing
Mar 24, 2012
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Some people really overvalue prospects. For every one that succeeds to even make the jump to the NHL (often with less of an impact than hyped), there are many who never make it.

22-year-old Toffoli was a two-time 100-point OHLer who HAS made the jump to the NHL successfully and is demonstrating his skills every night on the biggest stage of the NHL against the best players in the world, on pace for a 60+ point season and killing it on the penalty kill as well for the Stanley Cup champions! (14 playoff points in the Kings' cup-winning run was damn impressive)

vs.

Reinhart is a juniors player who had one assist in nine NHL games before being sent down. Will he develop into a 1st line player as is his potential? Or, like many will he settle for 2nd or 3rd line duty if lucky, or not even stick in the NHL?

Toffoli=Reinhart all things considered (when not just starry eyed about it)

Nikita Zadorov
vs
Eric Gelinas

NZ is in his rookie year and Gelinas is in his sophomore year, having scored 29 points and turned head with his solid play in all three zones. He is a 2nd pairing NHLer who still could develop into a first pairing guy.

The goalies are a wash as neither may stick in the NHL (so hard to predict at that position).

And while I like what I've seen of prospect Joel Armia internationally, if I had a nickel for every Finn forward I've seen drafted who didn't make the jump, I'd be able to buy us all a lobster and steak dinner!

The deal would be dead even if Armia wasn't in it. That was the difference and it isn't a veto-worthy gap.

Toffoli != Reinhart

Zadorov >> Gelinas
 

JayP812

The Team of Tomorrow
Aug 16, 2010
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6
Bay Area
Some people really overvalue prospects. For every one that succeeds to even make the jump to the NHL (often with less of an impact than hyped), there are many who never make it.

22-year-old Toffoli was a two-time 100-point OHLer who HAS made the jump to the NHL successfully and is demonstrating his skills every night on the biggest stage of the NHL against the best players in the world, on pace for a 60+ point season and killing it on the penalty kill as well for the Stanley Cup champions! (14 playoff points in the Kings' cup-winning run was damn impressive)

vs.

Reinhart is a juniors player who had one assist in nine NHL games before being sent down. Will he develop into a 1st line player as is his potential? Or, like many will he settle for 2nd or 3rd line duty if lucky, or not even stick in the NHL?

Toffoli=Reinhart all things considered (when not just starry eyed about it)

Nikita Zadorov
vs
Eric Gelinas

NZ is in his rookie year and Gelinas is in his sophomore year, having scored 29 points and turned head with his solid play in all three zones. He is a 2nd pairing NHLer who still could develop into a first pairing guy.

The goalies are a wash as neither may stick in the NHL (so hard to predict at that position).

And while I like what I've seen of prospect Joel Armia internationally, if I had a nickel for every Finn forward I've seen drafted who didn't make the jump, I'd be able to buy us all a lobster and steak dinner!

The deal would be dead even if Armia wasn't in it. That was the difference and it isn't a veto-worthy gap.

You really have no leg to stand on when it comes to valuations. Your assessments of players is fine but the fact is you don't trade an 18 year old #2 overall pick, a 19 year old #16th overall pick, and a couple of more prospects for lesser players (even if they are young as well) when you are rebuilding.
 

VanIslander

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You really have no leg to stand on when it comes to valuations. Your assessments of players is fine but the fact is you don't trade an 18 year old #2 overall pick, a 19 year old #16th overall pick, and a couple of more prospects for lesser players (even if they are young as well) when you are rebuilding.
Based on a tanking model, yeah. But that is a relatively recent phenomenon.

But the NHL has a long history of rebuilding by stocking YOUNG NHLers by trading their prospects to top teams for youngsters who don't get a lot of playing time on championship-calibre teams. That is exactly what I am doing. (Except in fantasy hockey hereabouts some stock their teams with only prospects and so I trade with those GMs as well.)
 

JayP812

The Team of Tomorrow
Aug 16, 2010
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Bay Area
:avs waive:

Daniel Briere
Cody McLeod
John Mitchell
Patrick Bordeleau
Jessie Winchester
Marc-Andre Cliche
Brad Stuart
Jan Hejda
Nate Guenin
 

How Ya Drouin

12/08/13 GM GamesRIP
Apr 24, 2013
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Ugh

:devils

Mark Scheifele
Nic Petan
Jakob Vrana
Calle Jarnkrok
Zach Fucale
2015 2nd round pick

:jets

Phil Kessel
Andy Greene
(both 50% retained)
 

donut

Moderator
Sep 5, 2012
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The package of Derrick Pouliot, Madison Bowey, Matt Dumba, Gustav Olofsson, Anthony Duclair and Nick Shore can go for the best package of top 6 players -- quality over quantity. Unless it's another top pairing defender, I have no interest in defence.
 
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BoldNewLettuce

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Dec 21, 2008
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Benn-Seguin-Gallagher
Skinner-Datsyuk-Nichushkin
Dubinsky-Spezza-Hemsky
Eakin-Lehtera-Kulemin

Campbell-Faulk
Goligoski-Shattenkirk
Alzner-Daley

Lehtonen
Rynnas

:stars

I hate my team with all of me.

Open to trades.
 

donghabs98

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Oct 14, 2010
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Nicklas Backstrom
James Neal
David Backes
TJ Oshie
Jack Johnson
Dan Girardi
Mike Cammalleri
Dustin Brown

Looking to move any of the players listed above. PM me if interested.
 

HankTheTankYoLo

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Aug 4, 2009
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weh, my internet connection have been down for like when the game started.

Sedin x 2, Vrbata, JayBo, Edler, Miller, Bieksa etc. OTB

WANT PROSPECTS
 

donut

Moderator
Sep 5, 2012
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The package of Derrick Pouliot, Madison Bowey, Matt Dumba, Gustav Olofsson, Anthony Duclair and Nick Shore can go for the best package of top 6 players -- quality over quantity. Unless it's another top pairing defender, I have no interest in defence.

HTT, give me the Sedins for this package :)
 

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