CONFIRMED. 22-year-old Toffoli leads the NHL in shorthanded goals (with four!) and has done it in 18 games becoming the fastest since Simon Gagne who scored four in 15 games for the Flyers in 2008-09. Toffoli is having an outstanding fantasy season with eight goals and 18 points in 18 games with a plus-13 rating which is tie for third best in the NHL.
Sam Reinhart, Nikita Zadorov, Joel Armia, Matt Hackett
Tyler Toffoli, Eric Gelinas, Scott Wedgewood
I'm happy to have added some nice prospects in Reinhart and Zadorov to the mix along with Arnia and Hackett. Thanks to VI for the talks.
Some people really overvalue prospects. For every one that succeeds to even make the jump to the NHL (often with less of an impact than hyped), there are many who never make it.
22-year-old Toffoli was a two-time 100-point OHLer who HAS made the jump to the NHL successfully and is demonstrating his skills every night on the biggest stage of the NHL against the best players in the world, on pace for a 60+ point season and killing it on the penalty kill as well for the Stanley Cup champions! (14 playoff points in the Kings' cup-winning run was damn impressive)
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Reinhart is a juniors player who had one assist in nine NHL games before being sent down. Will he develop into a 1st line player as is his potential? Or, like many will he settle for 2nd or 3rd line duty if lucky, or not even stick in the NHL?
Toffoli=Reinhart all things considered (when not just starry eyed about it)
Nikita Zadorov
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Eric Gelinas
NZ is in his rookie year and Gelinas is in his sophomore year, having scored 29 points and turned head with his solid play in all three zones. He is a 2nd pairing NHLer who still could develop into a first pairing guy.
The goalies are a wash as neither may stick in the NHL (so hard to predict at that position).
And while I like what I've seen of prospect Joel Armia internationally, if I had a nickel for every Finn forward I've seen drafted who didn't make the jump, I'd be able to buy us all a lobster and steak dinner!
The deal would be dead even if Armia wasn't in it. That was the difference and it isn't a veto-worthy gap.
Some people really overvalue prospects. For every one that succeeds to even make the jump to the NHL (often with less of an impact than hyped), there are many who never make it.
22-year-old Toffoli was a two-time 100-point OHLer who HAS made the jump to the NHL successfully and is demonstrating his skills every night on the biggest stage of the NHL against the best players in the world, on pace for a 60+ point season and killing it on the penalty kill as well for the Stanley Cup champions! (14 playoff points in the Kings' cup-winning run was damn impressive)
vs.
Reinhart is a juniors player who had one assist in nine NHL games before being sent down. Will he develop into a 1st line player as is his potential? Or, like many will he settle for 2nd or 3rd line duty if lucky, or not even stick in the NHL?
Toffoli=Reinhart all things considered (when not just starry eyed about it)
Nikita Zadorov
vs
Eric Gelinas
NZ is in his rookie year and Gelinas is in his sophomore year, having scored 29 points and turned head with his solid play in all three zones. He is a 2nd pairing NHLer who still could develop into a first pairing guy.
The goalies are a wash as neither may stick in the NHL (so hard to predict at that position).
And while I like what I've seen of prospect Joel Armia internationally, if I had a nickel for every Finn forward I've seen drafted who didn't make the jump, I'd be able to buy us all a lobster and steak dinner!
The deal would be dead even if Armia wasn't in it. That was the difference and it isn't a veto-worthy gap.
Based on a tanking model, yeah. But that is a relatively recent phenomenon.You really have no leg to stand on when it comes to valuations. Your assessments of players is fine but the fact is you don't trade an 18 year old #2 overall pick, a 19 year old #16th overall pick, and a couple of more prospects for lesser players (even if they are young as well) when you are rebuilding.
dead
The package of Derrick Pouliot, Madison Bowey, Matt Dumba, Gustav Olofsson, Anthony Duclair and Nick Shore can go for the best package of top 6 players -- quality over quantity. Unless it's another top pairing defender, I have no interest in defence.