OOT Scoreboard 2024-25 season

[Bleedred]

I’m sure this take would draw a lot of controversy on the main board or Caps board, but Lindgren’s pathetic attempt on the fourth Red Wings goal earns him a stoppable goal from me.

He just laid on the ice after he went down and hoped the puck would hit him.

I’m not sure why the Capitals insist on a complete 50/50 rotation between Lindgren and Thompson, but it’s no doubt cost them a couple of wins.

The disparity in play between the two is Cory/Marty 2013-2014 levels.

Thankfully they haven’t realized yet that Thompson should be 1a, if not the undisputed #1, instead of this 21 year old rookie Brodeur and Terreri 50/50 split out of the 93-94 season.

 

[theoptimist]

Bertuzzi hit on Blackwell was assessed a major too. Refs are a joke.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Bertuzzi hit on Blackwell was assessed a major too. Refs are a joke.

This is how they send a message to the rags about rempe: Suspend a bunch of players from other teams for legal checks.... The league is such a joke. The NHL needs something like what LIV did to the PGA tour.

 

[guitarguyvic]

Just now watched the highlights of the Seattle-Vancouver game from yesterday. Wow that is one of the worst regular season choke jobs I’ve ever seen. That looks like the kind of loss that could derail a season. Ugly.

 

[Bleedred]

Just now watched the highlights of the Seattle-Vancouver game from yesterday. Wow that is one of the worst regular season choke jobs I’ve ever seen. That looks like the kind of loss that could derail a season. Ugly.

The goal Demko allowed very early in the game was horrible and softy of the night. That was before the Canucks took the big lead though. And there was one other during the Seattle comeback on Demko that wasn’t good.

For some reason they insist on letting Demko find his game. He only made his season debut a couple of weeks ago because he’s been injured since game 1 of the playoffs last year.

He’s been horrible since coming back, but Lankinen has been more than fine the entire season, yet they insist on continuing to let Demko find his game.

They’ve been OT merchants with him and 2-1-3 since he returned. I’m not sure why they’re forcing a guy who just spent 8 months on the IR to play most of the games when he’s been horrible and the guy holding it down all season for him has been more than fine.

 

[Bleedred]

This Flyers team is abhorrent. I have no idea why there’s a single bullish take on their playoff chances.

Last year they were legitimately decent, this year they’re legitimately bad. They constantly have leads and lose them late. They’ve lost several games in regulation and OT where they had a late lead or had a lead going into the 3rd.

Their goaltending numbers have to be a league worst.

They have a better than average shooting percentage and still are below NHL 500.

 

[My3Sons]

This Flyers team is abhorrent. I have no idea why there’s a single bullish take on their playoff chances.

Last year they were legitimately decent, this year they’re legitimately bad. They constantly have leads and lose them late. They’ve lost several games in regulation and OT where they had a late lead or had a lead going into the 3rd.

Their goaltending numbers have to be a league worst.

They have a better than average shooting percentage and still are below NHL 500.

Pro sports are very tough and without emotional investment it’s almost impossible to just get by on talent. Overachieving teams that lose their edge are likely to struggle and Philly has overachieved for a while and probably have run out of emotional energy for now.

 

[NjDevsRR]

This Flyers team is abhorrent. I have no idea why there’s a single bullish take on their playoff chances.

Last year they were legitimately decent, this year they’re legitimately bad. They constantly have leads and lose them late. They’ve lost several games in regulation and OT where they had a late lead or had a lead going into the 3rd.

Their goaltending numbers have to be a league worst.

They have a better than average shooting percentage and still are below NHL 500.

Outside Bubble team that plays hard for their coach.

Right where I want them. Enjoy that purgatory

 

[Oneiro]

Yeah, from our perspective, I don't think you could ask for a more beautiful script for the Flyers.

Only blemish is Michkov falling into their laps. But my guess is he'll, at best, be another Kaprizov - gone via UFA by the time they have a good team again.

 

[NJDfan86]

Just now watched the highlights of the Seattle-Vancouver game from yesterday. Wow that is one of the worst regular season choke jobs I’ve ever seen. That looks like the kind of loss that could derail a season. Ugly.

Watching it live was literally shocking - I genuinely haven’t seen many folds like that.

 

[Guttersniped]

This Flyers team is abhorrent. I have no idea why there’s a single bullish take on their playoff chances.

Last year they were legitimately decent, this year they’re legitimately bad. They constantly have leads and lose them late. They’ve lost several games in regulation and OT where they had a late lead or had a lead going into the 3rd.

Their goaltending numbers have to be a league worst.

They have a better than average shooting percentage and still are below NHL 500.

No one should be bullish on the Flyers, they have 8 regulation wins. That’s the fewest in the Eastern Conference.

The other half (!) of their 16 wins are 5 OT wins and 3 SO wins.

They also have 4 points from 2 OT and 2 SO losses.

Also, 5 Shoot Outs in 37 games? Good lord lol.

Philly
24-25 (37 GP) vs 23-24
16 W 8 RW 4 OT/SOL vs 38 W 30 RW 11 OT/SOL
Total: 7 OT vs 12 OT
5 OT W vs 4 OT W
2 OT L vs 8 OT L
Total: 5 SO vs 7 SO
3 SO W vs 4 SO W
2 SO L vs 3 SO L

While I remember the Isles piling up extra points*, Detroit was the biggest OT/SO wins compiler last year, so their downturn isn’t a shocker.

Detroit
24-25 (36 GP) vs 23-24
14 W 11 RW 4 OT/SOL vs 41 W 27 RW 9 OT/SOL
Total: 6 OT vs 19 OT
2 OT W vs 11 OT W
4 OT L vs 8 OT L
Total: 1 SO vs 4 SO
1 SO W vs 3 SO W
None vs 1 SO L

*The Isles were tied with the Bruins and Habs for the most overtime in general last season.

Looks like Boston is surviving on OT points this season.

NY Isles
24-25 (37 GP) vs 23-24
14 W 11 RW 7 OT/SOL vs 39 W 29 RW 16 OT/SOL
Total: 7 OT vs 20 OT
1 OT W vs 9 OT W
6 OT L vs 11 OT L
Total: 3 SO vs 6 SO
2 SO W vs 1 SO W
1 SO L vs 5 SO L

Boston
24-25 (38 GP) vs 23-24
20 W 14 RW 4 OT/SOL vs 47W 36 RW 15 OT/SOL
Total: 10 OT vs 19 OT
6 OT W vs 7 OT W
4 OT L vs 12 OT L
Total: None vs 7 SO
None vs 4 SO W
None vs 3 SO L

Montreal
24-25 (36 GP) vs 23-24
16 W 13 RW 3 OT/SOL vs 30 W 20 RW 16 OT/SOL
Total: 4 OT vs 14 OT
2 OT W vs 6 OT W
2 OT L vs 8 OT L
Total: 2 SO vs 12 SO (lol)
1 SO W vs 4 SO W
1 SO L vs 8 SO L

 

[NJDfan86]

This Flyers team is abhorrent. I have no idea why there’s a single bullish take on their playoff chances.

Last year they were legitimately decent, this year they’re legitimately bad. They constantly have leads and lose them late. They’ve lost several games in regulation and OT where they had a late lead or had a lead going into the 3rd.

Their goaltending numbers have to be a league worst.

They have a better than average shooting percentage and still are below NHL 500.

They were playing run and gun hockey last year which worked for a bit when they had a competent goalie (who turned out to be a horrible person).

This what happens when it’s not competent - you go from mid-but-fun to yikes.

 

[TheBeerNerd]

This Flyers team is abhorrent. I have no idea why there’s a single bullish take on their playoff chances.

Last year they were legitimately decent, this year they’re legitimately bad. They constantly have leads and lose them late. They’ve lost several games in regulation and OT where they had a late lead or had a lead going into the 3rd.

Their goaltending numbers have to be a league worst.

They have a better than average shooting percentage and still are below NHL 500.

The Torts factor is the reason. He's not the best coach and he certainly doesn't run the most fun system to watch, but his players play hard for him because he'll give you respect if you earn it. Michkov is also an incredible talent.

They're not good, though. At some point, you have to stop a damn puck. The rapist that played for them was far more important for the well-being of the team than the one that played for us, and now all they have are awful choices in net. I thought Fedotov was going to be decent or better, instead he's been rancid. Their other goalie, the one from Belarus, is about as bad. This isn't a new problem for them but this might be the worst goaltending I've ever seen from them- quite the accomplishment.

 

[Bleedred]

No one should be bullish on the Flyers, they have 8 regulation wins. That’s the fewest in the Eastern Conference.

The other half (!) of their 16 wins are 5 OT wins and 3 SO wins.

They also have 4 points from 2 OT and 2 SO losses.

Also, 5 Shoot Outs in 37 games? Good lord lol.

Philly
24-25 (37 GP) vs 23-24
16 W 8 RW 4 OT/SOL vs 38 W 30 RW 11 OT/SOL
Total: 7 OT vs 12 OT
5 OT W vs 4 OT W
2 OT L vs 8 OT L
Total: 5 SO vs 7 SO
3 SO W vs 4 SO W
2 SO L vs 3 SO L

While I remember the Isles piling up extra points*, Detroit was the biggest OT/SO wins compiler last year, so their downturn isn’t a shocker.

Detroit
24-25 (36 GP) vs 23-24
14 W 11 RW 4 OT/SOL vs 41 W 27 RW 9 OT/SOL
Total: 6 OT vs 19 OT
2 OT W vs 11 OT W
4 OT L vs 8 OT L
Total: 1 SO vs 4 SO
1 SO W vs 3 SO W
None vs 1 SO L

*The Isles were tied with the Bruins and Habs for the most overtime in general last season.

Looks like Boston is surviving on OT points this season.

NY Isles
24-25 (37 GP) vs 23-24
14 W 11 RW 7 OT/SOL vs 39 W 29 RW 16 OT/SOL
Total: 7 OT vs 20 OT
1 OT W vs 9 OT W
6 OT L vs 11 OT L
Total: 3 SO vs 6 SO
2 SO W vs 1 SO W
1 SO L vs 5 SO L

Boston
24-25 (38 GP) vs 23-24
20 W 14 RW 4 OT/SOL vs 47W 36 RW 15 OT/SOL
Total: 10 OT vs 19 OT
6 OT W vs 7 OT W
4 OT L vs 12 OT L
Total: None vs 7 SO
None vs 4 SO W
None vs 3 SO L

Montreal
24-25 (36 GP) vs 23-24
16 W 13 RW 3 OT/SOL vs 30 W 20 RW 16 OT/SOL
Total: 4 OT vs 14 OT
2 OT W vs 6 OT W
2 OT L vs 8 OT L
Total: 2 SO vs 12 SO (lol)
1 SO W vs 4 SO W
1 SO L vs 8 SO L

A few weeks ago (maybe a month ago) I know some believed they would possibly make the playoffs, I'm sure most have backed off that at this point.

But the one thing I really don't understand is their 40% + playoff making odds on moneypuck, which I think are the highest for an East team that doesn't currently occupy a playoff spot. I honestly don't understand how they're not in like the 10% range or 8% range where Pittsburgh is. I guess I understand why they're not as low as maybe a Detroit or Montreal, as they're not already several games under NHL 500 like those teams are.

But it only seems to be moneypuck of the 3-4 sites that give playoff odds. And moneypuck had them at over 50% at one point a month ago, which left me scratching my head. They were much lower on hockeyviz and the athletic (which I don't have access to) last week. I think they were under 20% on there.

EDIT - They have them at a 48% chance right now and a 91 point projected finish. HOW?!

 

[Bleedred]

The Torts factor is the reason. He's not the best coach and he certainly doesn't run the most fun system to watch, but his players play hard for him because he'll give you respect if you earn it. Michkov is also an incredible talent.

They're not good, though. At some point, you have to stop a damn puck. The rapist that played for them was far more important for the well-being of the team than the one that played for us, and now all they have are awful choices in net. I thought Fedotov was going to be decent or better, instead he's been rancid. Their other goalie, the one from Belarus, is about as bad. This isn't a new problem for them but this might be the worst goaltending I've ever seen from them- quite the accomplishment.

Hiring Torts may end up being the worst thing to ever happen to them.

Instead of bottoming out and tanking hard, they're riding to a bunch of 80-something point finishes.

Purgatory indeed.

 

[NjDevsRR]

 

[Guttersniped]

A few weeks ago (maybe a month ago) I know some believed they would possibly make the playoffs, I'm sure most have backed off that at this point.

But the one thing I really don't understand is their 40% + playoff making odds on moneypuck, which I think are the highest for an East team that doesn't currently occupy a playoff spot. I honestly don't understand how they're not in like the 10% range or 8% range where Pittsburgh is. I guess I understand why they're not as low as maybe a Detroit or Montreal, as they're not already several games under NHL 500 like those teams are.

But it only seems to be moneypuck of the 3-4 sites that give playoff odds. And moneypuck had them at over 50% at one point a month ago, which left me scratching my head. They were much lower on hockeyviz and the athletic (which I don't have access to) last week. I think they were under 20% on there.

EDIT - They have them at a 48% chance right now and a 91 point projected finish. HOW?!

Money Puck’s model is very loosey goosey.

Maybe they gained something from ranking so high on this, compared to the other teams you mentioned:


But not sure why or why it’s so pronounced.

Underlying numbers are nice but the worst goaltending is the worst goaltending. And current standings are what they are.

Other models aren’t weirdly loving the Flyers:

 

[jkrdevil]

My guess is MoneyPuck’s model is more weighted to 5v5 numbers and weighs more recent games more vs other models that weighs special teams more. On their xG models 5v5 the Flyers are 14 (better than teams with lower odds) while the PP xG per 60 is second to last. Their PK is also bottom 10 for xG against per 60.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Seems I just walked into the nerd thread.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Just now watched the highlights of the Seattle-Vancouver game from yesterday. Wow that is one of the worst regular season choke jobs I’ve ever seen. That looks like the kind of loss that could derail a season. Ugly.

If you want to see a team that is really getting sunk by their home record, the Canucks are the team to watch.

7-7-6 at home vs a 10-3-2 road record

 

[theoptimist]

I’ll be watching. I love a good meltdown.

 

[Incharge1976]

2-0 Panthers 5 minutes in but challenging for goaltender interference.

 

[jkrdevil]

Desperation challenge 5 minutes into the game

Btw. The Panthers announcers are already at “what is Zibanejad doing”

 

[TrufleShufle]

Oh man if they pull Igor in the first.....

 

[Incharge1976]

haha...

challenged failed. 2-0 and on PK.