Good opening game with the 2 goals and the OT GWG.
Prospect Info: Olivier Nadeau, RW (97th overall, 2021) - Signed to ELC
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Good opening game with the 2 goals and the OT GWG.
A fourth-rounder who doesn't look like a great skater. He's a long shot for the NHL. Going backwards to ECHL doesn't bode well.Huh? Writing off a 20 year old kid, who has 5 total pro games played and coming back from a nearly two month long injury seems..... premature.
Especially considering how the Sabres have dumped a few salaried veterans onto the Amerks roster lately.
Zman5778
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Injury. He's coming back from an injury. Makes sense to get him going in Jacksonville. Now, if he stays down there for a month or two, then maybe worry.
Turning 21 in January. This is a Cliff Pu, Nick Baptiste, and Josh Bloom pick -- good junior careers not going anywhere in the NHL. We have hit on way too few of these mid-round picks. When prospects hit the ground running in the AHL KHL or SHL, I start to take notice as Isek Rosen, Jiri Kulich or Nikita Novikov have.
Alex Kisakov looks like not much already with 1.5 AHL seasons in. Victor Neuchev is in his 1st AHL, so we'll see. Vsevolod Komarov has been good in the Q, but if he doesn't elevate his game in the AHL, it gets tough to see success. Prokhor Poltapov is already 2021 draft and his not klling it in the KHL
The good players bound for NHL seem to adjust quickly to every increase in intensity like Peterka or Quinn of Kulich.
I will say until the foreign kids get over to North America, you never know.
All that said, Nadeau looks like an NHL longshot.
I get the excitement as a fan. I was huge on Devante Stephens but reality creeps in
Guys with size who bang and crash around the crease seem to have a way if he keeps working at his skating.
Marc Mancari revisited. Didn't really dominate ECHL. I would hold off on even an Amerks jersey.
If there was a place where odds were established about a player getting 50 NHL games, Nadeau wouldn't even be 10-1. Prospects are always exciting based on junior/college statsand then reality sets in after a couple of years. Even making the AHL is a huge accomplishment in the scheme of life; it makes you a top 1,000 person in your chosen field out of the entire world. I respect that. But there are so many Nadeau's Nick Baptiste's, Bretty Murray's, Devante Stephens'., Josh Blooms, The list is so long. Nadeau has just fallen behind so many players now. Doesn't look like he dominated the ECHL. On a personal level, a guy like this who pushes for 400 games in the NHL is always an amazing story. Justin Bailey has hung around and gotten to 140 games. He's 28. If Bailey never plays one more NHL game, that is an accomplishment. Paul Byron's 500+ NHL games is one hell of a story. But these types of players are not going to break a 13-year drought. I just refuse to get hyped on anyone until they have a breakthrough pro season. (Others can. Go ahead) If it's at the AHL, like Kulich, that gets me pumped. Nadeau just doesn't generate much interest from me. He becomes a serious power forward, I would be very happy to be wrong.
From the AHL Website:
| Date | Player | Team | Transaction | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2024-05-03 |  Riley Fiddler-Schultz (C) |  Rochester | ADD | Recalled from loan to Jacksonville (ECHL) |
| 2024-05-03 | Riley Fiddler-Schultz (C) | Rochester | ADD | Added |
| 2024-05-03 |  Damien Giroux (C) | Rochester | ADD | Recalled from loan to Jacksonville (ECHL) |
| 2024-05-03 | Damien Giroux (C) | Rochester | ADD | Added |
| 2024-05-03 |  Olivier Nadeau (RW) | Rochester | ADD | Reassigned by Buffalo (NHL) from Jacksonville (ECHL) |
| 2024-05-03 | Olivier Nadeau (RW) | Rochester | ADD | Added |
Did anyone ask you to get excited about him? Was there some personal plea to you to even follow the guy? Or did you just hop into a thread, seagull it and out? FFS, almost no picks make it. That's known. You don't have to even go into the threads about 'em.
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Matt Ress
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Meh I don't think Chain was pushing a narrative that he'll be a drought buster but there aren't many power forward types in the system at all. If he can work his way to being an AHL regular it will be a win.
E. Beat me to it lol
Teddy Nolan: “Prospects are great, Then some of them turn into suspects. Then some of them turn into rejects. You never know with the drafts."
I'm not aiming that at Nadeau. Sorry. I'm just worn out on being told how great our pipeline is and their future star power in the NHL. The 13 years and endless dollars on tickets make one very cynical. I'm even cynical about Benson, which is pretty dumb because the guy played pretty good hockey as an 18-year-old in the NHL. Last year, I watched every Rochester game because I was so excited. I don't trust anything the Sabres say anymore, but they are like an addiction, so I do get excited by prospects.
Matt Ress
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I totally get all of that and we all need to vent sometimes. It was just perhaps misdirected. There's a good chance Nadeau will never get to the big club. A lot of times you see the parent club run out of patience before a unicorn gets to the show, especially Buffalo. But it's still fun to watch kids grow and develop and we've all got our favorites as well.
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I still think Olivier has a chance, but I could see him being a Chris Taylor-type, where he's an AHL All-star with occasional call-ups as a 4th liner
I get it. It must be really annoying with everyone telling you how great Nadeu is and his future star potential
I think of him as more of an in-house Murray or Mersch replacement at this point. It's up to him to work at getting better.
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That's pretty fair. You watch the playoffs and you realize how good the league is where even one mistake is make or break. Tough game.
Jim Bob
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Prospect Olivier Nadeau impressing Sabres after demotion to ECHL - Buffalo Hockey Beat
A demotion to the ECHL last season forced Sabres prospect Olivier Nadeau to change.
www.buffalohockeybeat.com
Zman5778
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I said it in the prospect tourney thread, and I'll bring it here:
There might be something serviceable with Nadeau if he works diligently on his skating. He's got the big body, knows how to use it, is effective net front and along the boards......but his skating is the one thing that could hold him back.
And when I say "serviceable" -- I'm talking about a part-time bottom 6 NHL role or top-line AHL role. As Chain said -- maybe another Murray or Mersch.
There might be something serviceable with Nadeau if he works diligently on his skating. He's got the big body, knows how to use it, is effective net front and along the boards......but his skating is the one thing that could hold him back.
And when I say "serviceable" -- I'm talking about a part-time bottom 6 NHL role or top-line AHL role. As Chain said -- maybe another Murray or Mersch.
And with Mersch not returning in Rochester, Nadeau looks like the best candidate to take over one of the net-front roles there this season. He took the ECHL gig to get reps and made the best of it.
