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Player Discussion Oliver Kylington
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PatrikBerglund
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Mediocre
Pretty well. He's stepped up pretty nicely since Gio and Hamonic went down. He's definitely still prone to mistakes at time, but in my opinion his game has steadied a lot lately.
Bounces R Way
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Still having some ups and downs. More ups this year than last for him I think. He's gotten a lot more patient and his defense has also improved. Seems to not get thrown around as much either physically. Makes poor decisions managing the puck occasionally.
Wish someone would give him the green light to lead the rush more often.
Ace Rimmer
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Reminds me of a young TJ Brodie, but better acceleration.
OvermanKingGainer
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Other than Brodie and Giordano he's our best D without the puck and overall strong as a puck mover. He deserves 20+ a night, with tons of defensive deployment.
With the puck he really seems to struggle at getting the puck through traffic. If he can get his shot volume up he will be a perennial Norris candidate. Otherwise he will top out as a defensive specialist.
PatrikBerglund
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Wow, Norris candidate?
You think his potential in a couple of years is that high?
OvermanKingGainer
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Only if he can learn to get his shot through traffic. Right now he's awful at it but the hope is that that is just inexperience and not a lack of feel for point shooting. He seems to telegraph shots a bit too much and needs to learn to be more deceptive.
But yes the rest of his game - defending the cycle, defending the rush, rushing the puck, first pass, technical shooting ability, puck handling skills, gap control... all elite.
InfinityIggy
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Kylingtons chances of a Norris are about as good as Bennett’s chances of an Art Ross.
Interpret that how you like.
Interpret that how you like.
Mobiandi
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Kylington is going to make a team very happy for the next 10 years. It remains to be seen if that's going to be Calgary. Nothing this team loves more than getting in its own way
JurassicTunga
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He's in my top 3 sexiest players on the team. Take that as you will
We have probably the sexiest team in the league between just Lindholm, Monahan, Hanifin, Kylington and me as a fan.
Monahan? Meh, I guess he's just a little too vanilla imo (just like his on-ice play lol).
Johnny Hoxville
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Kylington is so good that his fellow Swede Erik, is changing his last name from Karlsson to Kylington.
Ace Rimmer
Stoke me a clipper.
I like it when we agree on things.He's in my top 3 sexiest players on the team. Take that as you will
Figgy44
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I might get skewered for this, but I am aware that there are many comparisons to Karlsson due to the skating. But to me, so far, Kylington's game reminds me more of something in between Brodie and Dougie Hamilton. Kylington is a great skater, yes. But somehow to me it's never the main thing that sticks out to me when I watch him play unlike a guy like Karlsson which skating is front and centre.
Hamilton does put up enough points to regularly have his name thrown in a hat for some top 5 Norris votes, so though I think that specific wording is a bit heavy handed, it's not like I'm completely agreeing or disagreeing with the Norris candidate stuff. I agree with the long term top 4 comments, but I don't think his development will be linear and consistent. I think he overall play will range from random flashes of elite to mostly slightly above average 2nd pairing on the regular. At least for the next few seasons.
Long term, I don't know yet. But I feel like we will enjoy seeing Kylington play his game on the 2nd pairing, but he may end up taking a bit less risk and shelving a bunch of his talent if asked to be a top pairing dman. Kylington was a top 10 pick candidate for his draft year and fell quite a bit into our lap in the second round. I'm more than happy to be patient with him. He's an NHL for sure with a pure bonus project in him to see if he can rediscover his ability to deploy his talent against NHLers that made turn heads as a 15 and 16 year old player.
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The question for me is whether or not Kylington is projected to surpass Valimaki and Hanifin in the depth chart. That is a tough assessment to make. If you think he can or is approximately equal to will he reach that projection if he only plays 3 pairing minutes?
The Flames have an apparent abundance of riches at LD (farm club notwithstanding). Gio isn't going to last forever (although I wouldn't put it past him) and many foresee Valimaki as the heir apparent to 1LD. That would leave Hanifin as 2LD, Shill 3LD.
I think Kylington is a comparable to Scott Niedermayer in terms of skating ability and size. He hasn't demonstrated the offensive side of his game enough and I agree his development isn't going to be linear. I also think more than a few teams will recognize this and his name may come up in trade talks. It has been rumoured that he wants to see the ice more and isn't totally satisfied being down in the depth chart.
In the end this could come down to a Hanifin vs Kylington debate. who to keep and who to trade.
The Flames have an apparent abundance of riches at LD (farm club notwithstanding). Gio isn't going to last forever (although I wouldn't put it past him) and many foresee Valimaki as the heir apparent to 1LD. That would leave Hanifin as 2LD, Shill 3LD.
I think Kylington is a comparable to Scott Niedermayer in terms of skating ability and size. He hasn't demonstrated the offensive side of his game enough and I agree his development isn't going to be linear. I also think more than a few teams will recognize this and his name may come up in trade talks. It has been rumoured that he wants to see the ice more and isn't totally satisfied being down in the depth chart.
In the end this could come down to a Hanifin vs Kylington debate. who to keep and who to trade.
Volica
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No.
That's one posters opinion.
He's probably a safe bet to be a 3-5 offensive minded D.
He probably tops out as a Justin Faulk type defencemen, and that's if the stars fully align properly. Good wheels, good offensive instinct, but both sides of the game just don't come naturally to him. In limited time his mistakes are very noticeable, so if we start piling on actual constant top 4 minutes (at this time) it would probably be a bit of a gong show. He's probably got a chance to just be another Klas Dahlbeck type young D, where you're just expecting him to take another step and he just never does; I'd say it's probably safer to think he'll be an NHLer long term though, just with that skating alone.
His underlying numbers point to him being a fairly capable bottom guy right now. He's earned being in and out of the lineup a lot this year (regardless of how many posters want to cry otherwise).
He's an interesting piece on the Flames blueline. There's a tonne of potential there, there's also a tonne of uncertainty there. I'd like to see him be a capable #5 for a year before I crown him a Norris caliber D. I think it'd be in Calgary's best interest to saddle him with a good skating, but more defensive oriented D. He's played a lot with Ras, and those two didn't work overly well together. He's been playing with the likes of Davidson or Yelesin, lately and has been all kinds of Sheltered. He's averaging something like 12-15 minutes a night since Gio's injury, which really hasn't moved much. They've leaned much more on Hanifin, Andersson and Brodie to carry the load.
Dunno. The same fans use to cry about Kulak a lot too. You can see he's burning villages down in Montreal now that he's not buried in depth
Ace Rimmer
Stoke me a clipper.
Jay Bouwmeester is another (aside from TJ) who comes to mind for me. Great feet, great vision, lousy shot.
Whew, was worried you were talking about me for a second.
Mobiandi
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It's pretty obvious that he's suppressing his offensive instincts for fear of getting pressbox'd the next game for a mistake that the old 2nd pairing would make every game.
This is a guy who got a hattrick for the Heat after getting sent down for reasons(??).
The Flames have a golden goose here and they need to give him more freedom to be himself next season or he'll into the next B. Sutter's Bouwmeester - an overcoached player who left you wanting more through no fault of his own
This is a guy who got a hattrick for the Heat after getting sent down for reasons(??).
The Flames have a golden goose here and they need to give him more freedom to be himself next season or he'll into the next B. Sutter's Bouwmeester - an overcoached player who left you wanting more through no fault of his own
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