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Prospect Info: Oliver Kapanen Part 2

I generally agree, but like I said Mailloux basically didn't have a junior career.

He's one of those players who, in MSL's words, "a besoin de beaucoup de touches".

He just doesn't have the experience of most 22y/o players.

That said I agree, the window's closing in rapidly and he might not become what I hope he becomes.

Boom-or-bust end of 1st round pick. I'm fine with it.

Maybe give him 1 more year then try him at RW+ the point on the PP?
Well said. From the waist up Mailloux is clearly a legitimate NHLer. It’s his obvious lack of acceleration that will prevent him from being an effective NHL defenceman. Whatever his past developmental (or lack thereof) history is, one has to be realistic as to how much improvement a player at 22 can achieve particularly with respect to his skating. While such a progression is possible, it is far more probable that what you see is what you will get with Mailloux.

Thus my often repeated suggestion that Mailloux be converted to a forward where he can receive the puck in motion and the best parts of Mailloux’s game /talents can be utilized.
 
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Well said. From the waist up Mailloux is clearly a legitimate NHLer. It’s his obvious lack of acceleration that will prevent him from being an effective NHL defenceman. Whatever his past developmental (or lack thereof) history is, one has to be realistic as to how much improvement a player at 22 can achieve particularly with respect to his skating. While such a progression is possible, it is far more probable that what you see is what you will get with Mailloux.

Thus my often repeated suggestion that Mailloux be converted to a forward where he can receive the puck in motion and the best parts of Mailloux’s game /talents can be utilized.
Well said. From the waist up Mailloux is clearly a legitimate NHLer. It’s his obvious lack of acceleration that will prevent him from being an effective NHL defenceman. Whatever his past developmental (or lack thereof) history is, one has to be realistic as to how much improvement a player at 22 can achieve particularly with respect to his skating. While such a progression is possible, it is far more probable that what you see is what you will get with Mailloux.

Thus my often repeated suggestion that Mailloux be converted to a forward where he can receive the puck in motion and the best parts of Mailloux’s game /talents can be utilized.
We sure could use a forward withMailloux’s size and shot. Byfuglien and Brent Burns started their careers as forwards.

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Mailloux - ???? - Mailloux

We could construct a second line like the first. Mailloux in the Slaf role. Demidov in the Suzuki role. We could even see if an undersized center like Rossi works in the Caufield role. That’s a reach. But would nice to add Mailloux’s size and shot to the offense, if he can play the forward role.
 
We sure could use a forward withMailloux’s size and shot. Byfuglien and Brent Burns started their careers as forwards.

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Mailloux - ???? - Mailloux

We could construct a second line like the first. Mailloux in the Slaf role. Demidov in the Suzuki role. We could even see if an undersized center like Rossi works in the Caufield role. That’s a reach. But would nice to add Mailloux’s size and shot to the offense, if he can play the forward role.
There are a number of noted players who saw success converting from defence to forward including Dustin Penner and Red Kelly. Can Mailloux make the transition? If you have the ability to re-watch this year's AHL All Star game you can see Mailloux's suitability/potential as a forward. That game game was played in the distortive 3 on 3 format where mobility is at a premium and each player largely assumes a rover approach. Unshackled from his normal defensive responsibilities and positioning, Mailloux, who was able to receive the puck in open ice and while in motion, was easily one of the more impressive players in the game. He was able to push the play on almost every shift using his combination of elite playmaking ability, reach and, rangy style of skating. Mailloux's limitation is a lack of first/second step acceleration that adversely affects his ability to both elude forechecking pressure and effectively execute man on man defensive coverage in his own zone. He struggles at the AHL level, and will be exploited in the NHL.

The object of good coaching is to place a player in the best position where he can both succeed personally and help his team. To this writer, that would be to convert this offensively gifted player to forward where he would be receiving the puck in motion and be able to use his size, skill, shot, vision and mobility to effectively attack opponents in the offensive end. Maybe its just this old sailor, but such a conversion seems very obvious. I would be surprised if Hughes and Co. haven't considered same.
 
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I do recall burns being drafted as a forward.

I don't think byfuglien did, though. He was drafted as a dman, and started as a dman in chicago. It was quennevile who began using him at forward later on, but other coaches put him back on defense full time.

Andrei markov was originally a center but I dont recall whether he was drafted as a dman or if he had already made the transition before that.
 
The object of good coaching is to place a player in the best position where he can both succeed personally and help his team. To this writer, that would be to convert this offensively gifted player to forward where he would be receiving the puck in motion and be able to use his size, skill, shot, vision and mobility to effectively attack opponents in the offensive end. Maybe its just this old sailor, but such a conversion seems very obvious. I would be surprised if Hughes and Co. haven't considered same.
I hope you're right. If it doesn't work out for him on D, please God at least TRY him at RW.
 
I hope you're right. If it doesn't work out for him on D, please God at least TRY him at RW.
It will happen or he’ll be traded. For all of Mallioux’s manifest offensive talents, this kid is not a future impactful NHL level defenceman.

I’d have no hesitation in trading Mailloux for a premium to some team that still believes in the dream that Mailloux projects as a top pairing defenceman.
 
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I do recall burns being drafted as a forward.

I don't think byfuglien did, though. He was drafted as a dman, and started as a dman in chicago. It was quennevile who began using him at forward later on, but other coaches put him back on defense full time.

Andrei markov was originally a center but I dont recall whether he was drafted as a dman or if he had already made the transition before that.
I believe Markov came up as a defenceman from Russia.
 
When is the last time that worked? And I see fans here argue that the Sheriff and Mailloux should both be converted to wing.

They also argued it for Hutson. It's just lazy EA sports stuff. If you can have a player of that ilk on defense, it's a much bigger advantage than it is on the wing.
 
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There are a number of noted players who saw success converting from defence to forward including Dustin Penner and Red Kelly. Can Mailloux make the transition? If you have the ability to re-watch this year's AHL All Star game you can see Mailloux's suitability/potential as a forward. That game game was played in the distortive 3 on 3 format where mobility is at a premium and each player largely assumes a rover approach. Unshackled from his normal defensive responsibilities and positioning, Mailloux, who was able to receive the puck in open ice and while in motion, was easily one of the more impressive players in the game. He was able to push the play on almost every shift using his combination of elite playmaking ability, reach and, rangy style of skating. Mailloux's limitation is a lack of first/second step acceleration that adversely affects his ability to both elude forechecking pressure and effectively execute man on man defensive coverage in his own zone. He struggles at the AHL level, and will be exploited in the NHL.

The object of good coaching is to place a player in the best position where he can both succeed personally and help his team. To this writer, that would be to convert this offensively gifted player to forward where he would be receiving the puck in motion and be able to use his size, skill, shot, vision and mobility to effectively attack opponents in the offensive end. Maybe its just this old sailor, but such a conversion seems very obvious. I would be surprised if Hughes and Co. haven't considered same.
The Habs have a need(s) at RD, Mailloux has never played forward from what I know, he hasn’t had a ton of reps at the junior or pro level as a Dman…it would be an odd decision to decide to convert him to forward at this point.

He’s a Dman and there’s really no reason to want him to move to defense IMO.
 
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The Habs have a need(s) at RD, Mailloux has never played forward from what I know, he hasn’t had a ton of reps at the junior or pro level as a Dman…it would be an odd decision to decide to convert him to forward at this point.

He’s a Dman and there’s really no reason to want him to move to defense IMO.

They also argued it for Hutson. It's just lazy EA sports stuff. If you can have a player of that ilk on defense, it's a much bigger advantage than it is on the wing.

You know, I can't recall a suggestion in the past fifteen years that a forward prospect get converted to defense.
 

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