Value of: Oliver Bjorkstrand to Mtl (option Jenner)

[StephenPeat]

Wait, what? The two situations are totally different and not even comparable.

Back on what you said, Galchy also scored 30 goals (and more points) on a "mediocre" team. The Jackets and the Habs offensive productions last season were literally the same. I get that Jenner is more of a character guy that is annoying to play against, while Galchenyuk is more of a skillfull player that will awe you with his hands. But saying Galchenyuk is soft (if I understood correctly) is ignorance. They're just two players who play differently.

So the difference in these players justifies this statement?
"Jenner for Galchenyuk ....ffs"
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=123718805
That's what I take issue with. Under the circumstances, I'd say a fine argument can be made for taking Jenner, the difference certainly isn't FFS.

 

[WannabeFinn]

Not for sale.

 

[TaketheCannoli]

For Bjorkstand only not Jenner

The Jackets have no reason to do that unless the Habs pay a ridiculous price. They are loaded with young defensemen and young wingers. What they need is a #1 C or an ELITE young wing. Bjorkstrand has the potential to be an elite winger.

What can the Habs offer that meets the Blue Jackets needs? No to Beaulieu or any other blueliner. No to #2/3 Cs like Plekanic or DD.

What do you offer to get him? I just don't see a fit between these teams for this player.

 

[Viqsi]

Ilike Bjorkstrand, but it seem he didnt received the same love by Tortorella and now struggle on the AHL. I would like him in the habs

I also saw a limited ice time for Boone Jenner.

I would take them alone or in a package. What do you want? What do you need?

What we want and need is a #1C. The rest is more or less taken care of - or otherwise covered well by the guys you're asking us to give up.

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We would have to give beaulieu

Beaulieu wouldn't even get the conversation started. He'd be a throw-in, not a centerpiece - and not one that we value very highly, so it doesn't make sense for the Habs to offer him.

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For both Bjorkstrand & Jenner? We're looking at Galchenyuk + Beaulieu (for example - big add) + (Andrighetto - smaller add)

Jenner's one hell of a player & he's become one very quietly.

Pretty much this, although Beaulieu isn't of much interest to us as our blueline is in really good shape.

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For Bjorkstand only not Jenner

We have no reason to move Bjorkstrand at all, really, so finding a price that wouldn't be a hideous ripoff of the Habs is going to be nigh-impossible.

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brutal for the habs

Yep. And losing both Jenner and Bjorkstrand is brutal for the Jackets. So it all works out in the end.

 

[Devourers]

Evander Kane-esque

 

[Rufus]

Get ready to be really upset by what it is going to take

 

[Hello Johnny]

Neither are available.

 

[hockeyheadlines]

Get ready to be really upset by what it is going to take

Why would we be upset?

 

[Rufus]

Why would we be upset?

Well, Jenner is an important player in Columbus and they are really high on Bjorkstrand. The two of them together is going to take something like Galchenyuk plus another young impact player. Does that seem like a cost you would be willing to pay?

 

[major major]

As a Jackets fan, let me tell you that I'm not sure Jenner + Bjorkstrand would cost more than Galchenyuk. The team is overloaded with garbage-goal scoring wings, which is fine if you structure the system around that, but it seems like Torts is trying to move towards a more skilled game. And of course, they need a center (and so would Montreal if they moved Galchenyuk).

 

[hockeyheadlines]

As a Jackets fan, let me tell you that I'm not sure Jenner + Bjorkstrand would cost more than Galchenyuk. The team is overloaded with garbage-goal scoring wings, which is fine if you structure the system around that, but it seems like Torts is trying to move towards a more skilled game. And of course, they need a center (and so would Montreal if they moved Galchenyuk).

Finally someone put on his thinking cap. In the end, it's all about nogociations and most fans don't get the big picture. Well, at least not the one the GM sees anyways.

I'm thinking, all Galchenyuk needs to become elite, is a darn good coach. The potential is certainly there.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

Finally someone put on his thinking cap. In the end, it's all about nogociations and most fans don't get the big picture. Well, at least not the one the GM sees anyways.

I'm thinking, all Galchenyuk needs to become elite, is a darn good coach. The potential is certainly there.

We're all set at center (I hope), but Galchenyuk is a guy I would have loved to see play with the likes of Palat, Killorn, Kucherov, et al.

 

[hockeyheadlines]

We're all set at center (I hope), but Galchenyuk is a guy I would have loved to see play with the likes of Palat, Killorn, Kucherov, et al.

The younger players seem to thrive under Cooper for sure. I guess Jon knows exactly how to coach the new generation of talent.

 

[BatVader]

lets trick Torts into thinking Plekanec is a premium shut down centerman capable of still scoring 50 to 60 points per season.
Truth be told the habs dont have much to trade other than their core. I consider Juulsen part of that core as he looks really impressive.

Well, considering Plekanec is still capable of 50+ points per season, not much of a trick.
The lack of value Habs fanboys give Plekanec is funny.
Sometimes I swear you guys only know about players who's hockey cards you got a McDonalds.
Lmao.
Any team would take Plekanec easy. Reliable 50+ point producer, considered one of the best 2-way centres in the game, and a proven team first guy.
But, sure, trade him away.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

The younger players seem to thrive under Cooper for sure. I guess Jon knows exactly how to coach the new generation of talent.

He's certainly not without his warts, but I've said on here somewhere before that I thought Galchenyuk shows little flashes of something extra.

 

[Mrb1p]

Wtf is this ? Galchenyuk is worth more than the package TOGETHER.

I love Jenner, but he's nowhere near Galchenyuk... Who's a 1C at 22...

The last time a 1C this age was moved... He got Seth Jones back

 

[CanadienShark]

lets trick Torts into thinking Plekanec is a premium shut down centerman capable of still scoring 50 to 60 points per season.
Truth be told the habs dont have much to trade other than their core. I consider Juulsen part of that core as he looks really impressive.

Imagine they could pull off Plekanec for Jenner. That'd be insane. Suddenly the Habs would have a very good duo of top 6 centres.

 

[CanadienShark]

Responses like yours are why I love this forum. Also I absolutely love how the OP suggests (option Jenner). As a neutral fan (Caps) at this point, I take Jenner over Galchenyuk and don't think twice. Jenner is an A-@ to play against and somehow quietly scored 30 goals on a pretty mediocre team. Galchenyuk is supposed to be so much better because of his "potential"? Does Galchenyuk score 30 on the Jackets? I doubt it very much, not to mention his Evander Kanesque off-ice resume. Sure you keep Galchenyuk's potential and I'll take Jenner and see you in the playoffs. I don't usually subscribe to the Tough Canadian / Soft Euro stereotypes but these two players may be the epitome of that distinction (which is surprising given Galchenyuk's true heritage). And Bjorkstrand? Yeah I doubt Mtl is going to offer anything that makes Columbus even think for one second on this.

1. You do realize he just scored 30 on the ****ing Habs... Don't you?

2. Kane-esque attitude? Say what!?!?!?

3. Jenner is an absolute stud. He has a comparable impact/value on the ice now. No question. As far as potential though, it's Galchenyuk.

 

[CoachWithNoTeam]

Wtf is this ? Galchenyuk is worth more than the package TOGETHER.

I love Jenner, but he's nowhere near Galchenyuk... Who's a 1C at 22...

The last time a 1C this age was moved... He got Seth Jones back

Jenner scored 30 goals last year, essentially was a 1LW at 22 - and only had 7 puts less than Galchenyuk last season... Bjorkstrand had 6 gwgs in AHL playoffs last year as a rookie and led the team to calder cup. The package together is definitely worth more than galchenyuk. Individually, galchenyuk is worth more than either, but not that much more than Jenner. Bjorkstrand is our top winger prospect. Jenner is only a year older than galchenyuk, etc.

 

[BatVader]

Jenner would be an interesting pick up, but not at the cost of Plekanec.
Now, as a 2LW or 3C, sure I'll take Jenner. Let's talk cost. Realistic cost. Plekanec is worth more than Jenner.

 

[go4hockey]

lol he def scores 30 + goals and more than 60 points with the jackets

C-bus is not as good offensively as the Habs so how would any player getting sent there get an increase in their scoring?

 

[StephenPeat]

Jenner would be an interesting pick up, but not at the cost of Plekanec.
Now, as a 2LW or 3C, sure I'll take Jenner. Let's talk cost. Realistic cost. Plekanec is worth more than Jenner.

Let's try to move this in a constructive way. A Habs fan started this thread, you don't want to trade Plekanec, Jackets fans have told you Beaulieu is not a need, Habs fans have stated they won't entertain Galchenyuk. Figure out for yourself what else is left that you believe Columbus should accept, propose that, we'll all likely laugh at you but please be my guest.

 

[BatVader]

Let's try to move this in a constructive way. A Habs fan started this thread, you don't want to trade Plekanec, Jackets fans have told you Beaulieu is not a need, Habs fans have stated they won't entertain Galchenyuk. Figure out for yourself what else is left that you believe Columbus should accept, propose that, we'll all likely laugh at you but please be my guest.

Honestly, I don't see a trade to be made for Jenner.
Anything the Habs have that the Jackets would want, the Habs need to keep.
Right now, for some reason, Habs fans are going nuts offering up Beaulieu and Plekanec.
Only thing Habs should move Beaulieu for is an upgrade on D, and they shouldn't move Plekanec at all.
As for the other option in the OP, Habs have no need of Bjorkstrand.

 

[major major]

Jenner would be an interesting pick up, but not at the cost of Plekanec.
Now, as a 2LW or 3C, sure I'll take Jenner. Let's talk cost. Realistic cost. Plekanec is worth more than Jenner.

Not with a 10 year age difference (and double the salary!).

(I'm not trying to persuade you to make any kind of deal, just saying that's an off-base evaluation).

 

[TaketheCannoli]

Not with a 10 year age difference (and double the salary!).

(I'm not trying to persuade you to make any kind of deal, just saying that's an off-base evaluation).

Not to mention there is no reason for Columbus to give up a core player of any type for a 33 yo #2C.