GDT: Oilers vs Panthers - Game 7 - Stanley Cup

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Heavy amount of copium going on. There’s absolutely no reason why Buffalo couldn’t try to build a team that allowed any of them to fit in and play. Buffalo couldn’t and they are showing they can’t.

Let’s call a spade a spade, the Blues, Knoghts, Panthers knew what to do with the players, Buffalo didn’t. That’s on coaching and management. They showed themselves capable of playing playoff caliber hockey. There’s no need to try and your convince yourself in diluting those players’ impacts on their teams just to make oneself feel better.
I’m just speaking facts. O’Reilly, Eichel, and Reinhart came to the worst roster and organization in hockey. They were tasked with building a winning culture. They couldn’t do it. If any of those players went to losing franchises they would still be losing.
 

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Really happy for all of the ex-players who won last night.

Something irked me about Kyle's post-cup interview where he was asked what made this Panthers team so special.

He said it was the selflessness and the love they have for one another. Something he had never experienced before.

He was the captain. If that was missing from the Sabres, that's at least partly on him.


Liked the Ekblad -> Reinhart -> Bennett hand off. 1-2-4 in the 2014 draft.
 

OkimLom

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I’m just speaking facts. O’Reilly, Eichel, and Reinhart came to the worst roster and organization in hockey. They were tasked with building a winning culture. They couldn’t do it. If any of those players went to losing franchises they would still be losing.
They were not tasked with building a winning culture while here. They were tasked to try to win hockey games, and for the most part they carried this organization as much as they could while they were here to do that and were often THE reasons why this organization won the games they did.

The task to build a winning culture was down to the coach and management, things that were out of their control.

You are also lessening their impact on said teams by saying that they just had to fit in, when they were massive reasons why their teams won, even if their team was built with a stronger roster.
 

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I'm about ready to tap.
Disconnect a little. It helps. I used to go out of my way to make sure I watched as many games as possible live. Or recorded them to watch in full later that night if I had something going on. I haven’t had this approach for a few years. I’ll even pass up watching games to watch something with my wife instead. Then just follow/check in on the games on the NHL app, here and/or Twitter. I suppose I should thank the Sabres for earning me brownie points with my wife. :laugh:
 

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Disconnect a little. It helps. I used to go out of my way to make sure I watched as many games as possible live. Or recorded them to watch in full later that night if I had something going on. I haven’t had this approach for a few years. I’ll even pass up watching games to watch something with my wife instead. Then just follow/check in on the games on the NHL app, here and/or Twitter. I suppose I should thank the Sabres for earning me brownie points with my wife. :laugh:
This is the way, never will I schedule time around a Sabres game again until they are actually playing for something.

I did it last year towards the start of the season because I thought this was their rise to make the playoffs after just missing the year prior and I didn't want to miss a minute of it.

I won't make that mistake again. I probably won't start caring this season until after the All-Star break depending on where they are.
 
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I think you are underestimating just how inept our management has been.
I don't think I am. Most of the time since the Oilers drafted McDavid, I have viewed their preseason roster as "a bottom 3-5 team plus the best two players in the world." The things they have gotten right over the years are few, far between, heavily dragged along by those two, and the only reason people sign there is because of those two. Had we won McDavid, the tide of our steaming pile of crap organization would have also been lifted in a similar way, and that franchise in Edmonton would look way more like we do because they would be missing the incredible guardrails that Connor provides

We are one decision made by Edmonton last November away from a likely trade request from the most talented player to ever play the game of hockey this offseason
 

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Okposo does come off as a bit of a phony in these Stanley Cup/playoff interviews, but at the same time I'm not sure what he's supposed to say when the interviewer asks "What makes this group of guys so special?"
 

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I don't think I am. Most of the time since the Oilers drafted McDavid, I have viewed their preseason roster as "a bottom 3-5 team plus the best two players in the world." The things they have gotten right over the years are few, far between, heavily dragged along by those two, and the only reason people sign there is because of those two. Had we won McDavid, the tide of our steaming pile of crap organization would have also been lifted in a similar way, and that franchise in Edmonton would look way more like we do because they would be missing the incredible guardrails that Connor provides

We are one decision made by Edmonton last November away from a likely trade request from the most talented player to ever play the game of hockey this offseason
I don't know if I buy all that, but maybe you're right. That just makes Edmonton an extreme outlier, though, it doesn't excuse our own piss-poor management. I'm tired of lamenting not winning the draft lottery 9 years ago. We've had enough of top-3 OA picks and superstars come through here since then that we should have been able to turn it around with even mildly competent management. Instead we're right back where we started, wallowing in mediocrity, and that's in a good year.
 

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Heavy amount of copium going on. There’s absolutely no reason why Buffalo couldn’t try to build a team that allowed any of them to fit in and play. Buffalo couldn’t and they are showing they can’t.

Let’s call a spade a spade, the Blues, Knoghts, Panthers knew what to do with the players, Buffalo didn’t. That’s on coaching and management. They showed themselves capable of playing playoff caliber hockey. There’s no need to try and your convince yourself in diluting those players’ impacts on their teams just to make oneself feel better.
Bolded from your last paragraph x 1000%
 

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Disconnect a little. It helps. I used to go out of my way to make sure I watched as many games as possible live. Or recorded them to watch in full later that night if I had something going on. I haven’t had this approach for a few years. I’ll even pass up watching games to watch something with my wife instead. Then just follow/check in on the games on the NHL app, here and/or Twitter. I suppose I should thank the Sabres for earning me brownie points with my wife. :laugh:
And retirement changes your priorities too!

It just occurred to me that Kyle is probably going to have his day with the cup here. Probably in his backyard with his kids school friends and a nice cake.
He earned it. Can't be worse than watching Patrick Kane cart the Cup around town.
 
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littletonhockeycoach

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I will likely never retire. Hang on into whatever degenerative disorders I will be felled by and wither, sure.
I was going to respond with a laugh but realized your comment is true for so many American's these days. It's really tragic and shows how much we've lost as a society. Retirement for me has been superlatively enjoyable. Way better than working was.

Having a real pension is the difference maker. Most folks just don't any longer.
 

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I was going to respond with a laugh but realized your comment is true for so many American's these days. It's really tragic and shows how much we've lost as a society. Retirement for me has been superlatively enjoyable. Way better than working was.

Having a real pension is the difference maker. Most folks just don't any longer.

I'm always 15% in the 401k plus the 4% company match. I am not counting on Social Security. If I was able to even put my SS money in a bank and get a 2% return annually I'd be way ahead of what I'll be lucky to get at 65.
 
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