Seravalli: Oilers tried to acquire Drew O'Connor last week, looking for a backup plan now with similar traits (big and fast) Holloway replacement

[russ99]

IMO this is more to replace Kane for the playoffs than replace Holloway. If they get any significant playing time out of Kane, that would be a bonus. They're thin on skill with size that can play up on the top 6 if needed.

The right handed faceoff center who can PK and handle own zone starts is a different player entirely, and while Philp has done OK, I'd think the Oilers would rather trust a key postseason role to someone more battle tested.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Are we really going to be ok with the Oilers getting a bottom 6 forward and a depth #7 LHD? Is this really a good enough trade deadline?

 

[OilersFanatics505]

I don't know that we need to move anyone out, honestly. If Kane's not back until playoffs we have some flexibility.

Though, if we're moving anyone out, my #1 guy is Adam Henrique. Add a good winger, shift RNH to 3C, and run:

TBD-McDavid-Hyman
Pod-Drai-Skinner (who's looked great the last few games)
Arvidsson-RNH-Brown
Janmark/Kane-Philp/Janmark-Perry

That’s not a cup winning forward group

 

[Rowlet]

Are we really going to be ok with the Oilers getting a bottom 6 forward and a depth #7 LHD? Is this really a good enough trade deadline?

They don't have a 1st this year

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

They don't have a 1st this year

Actually they do. We can trade this years first and give Philly next years.

Also Sam O'Reilly is tradable who is basically a late first.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

Actually they do. We can trade this years first and give Philly next years.

Also Sam O'Reilly is tradable who is basically a late first.

No they can’t. Condition on the trade is oilers 1st this year is top 12 protected, if it’s in the top 12 (which it won’t be) PHI gets Oilers 2026 1st. If the Oilers trade their 2026 1st then PHI gets the 2025 1st unprotected.

 

[Rowlet]

Actually they do. We can trade this years first and give Philly next years.

Also Sam O'Reilly is tradable who is basically a late first.

No.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

That’s not a cup winning forward group

Depends who TBD is and if Skinner's game keeps improving tbh. Don't underestimate how far McDavid and Draisaitl can drag this group. On their own lines, that means opposing teams will have to be playing against one of the two 46-48 minutes a night.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

No they can’t. Condition on the trade is oilers 1st this year is top 12 protected, if it’s in the top 12 (which it won’t be) PHI gets Oilers 2026 1st. If the Oilers trade their 2026 1st then PHI gets the 2025 1st unprotected.

2026 is a better draft year, I think that pick will have more value league wide than dealing the 2025 anyway.

 

[biturbo19]

I don't think DOC is going to be a difference maker for anyone, personally. Not like Edmonton cup hopes are changed in anyway. DOC was a speedy forechecker who PK'ed well but the pedestrian level of production made it difficult to have any positive feelings towards keeping him.

Yeah. Quite frankly, from a Canucks perspective...i'd readily move O'Connor to the Oilers, even in-division, if they're willing to pay up with something worthwhile. Really not a standout player to me at all, and entirely replaceable.


I'm not sure if Ruthervin see it the same way though. Whether DOC was an important target that they really want to keep...or if he was more just a target that could be useful, but could also be a coveted deadline trade chip for a team that isn't entirely sure if they're coming or going, buyers or sellers when the deadline rolls around.

But if it were up to me, i'd absolutely make a reasonable deal to send DOC to Edmonton. Problem being, Oilers don't have a lot in the way of interesting prospects to deal with, so it'd presumably just be a pick that can be flipped for something else i guess.

 

[n8]

Laughing at this. They should have just kept Ryan McLeod.
Would be even more ironic if they dealt Savoie to fill the hole they created.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Probably should have matched on Holloway if they knew they were going to need that style of player. Now he's looking like a steal at 2.4 million and will probably get over 7 on his next contract.

Better yet, should have signed him to the 1.3ish it would have likely cost to open free agency

 

[VeteranPresence]

Laughing at this. They should have just kept Ryan McLeod.

McLeod isn't a big game player and after his hot start in a new environment he's cooled right off. He also has 14 hits all season which is pretty on-brand for him. The Oilers don't really miss anything he added besides the speed, and that won't be worth what his next contract will entail.

 

[biturbo19]

Josh Anderson??

All kidding aside, if it weren't for that massive contract...Josh Anderson would be a perfect fit for what Edmonton wants/needs. Certainly fits the "big and fast" billing. He's also one of those players who can kind of chip in and generate his own offense from the bottom-6. That's useful for a team that has a lot of more "complementary" players outside the top-heavy couple of offensive play-drivers. A guy who can do his ~15G ~30Pts from the 3rd/4th line largely on his own without much support.

But that contract is just untenable for a team like Edmonton. Only way to fit that in to their cap structure, would be to blow it up into a megadeal that moves Nurse the other way. And i don't think Edmonton has the juice in terms of assets to make that sort of thing happen, other obstacles to moving Nurse notwithstanding.

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

All kidding aside, if it weren't for that massive contract...Josh Anderson would be a perfect fit for what Edmonton wants/needs. Certainly fits the "big and fast" billing. He's also one of those players who can kind of chip in and generate his own offense from the bottom-6. That's useful for a team that has a lot of more "complementary" players outside the top-heavy couple of offensive play-drivers. A guy who can do his ~15G ~30Pts from the 3rd/4th line largely on his own without much support.

But that contract is just untenable for a team like Edmonton. Only way to fit that in to their cap structure, would be to blow it up into a megadeal that moves Nurse the other way. And i don't think Edmonton has the juice in terms of assets to make that sort of thing happen, other obstacles to moving Nurse notwithstanding.

Anderson has a hit of $5.5M for 2 more years. There are plenty of ways to make that work without sending Nurse back (which would be insane without a plan to backfill on defense.)

The question is if Anderson is the right player or not. His underlying numbers kind of suck, so if he can't play responsible hockey, it's a non-starter.

Laughing at this. They should have just kept Ryan McLeod.
Would be even more ironic if they dealt Savoie to fill the hole they created.

Holloway and Broberg are missed. Nobody misses McLeod. He might grow into a player in Buffalo, but doesn't have the makeup for what was needed out of that role in Edmonton.

 

[SEALBound]

Yeah. Quite frankly, from a Canucks perspective...i'd readily move O'Connor to the Oilers, even in-division, if they're willing to pay up with something worthwhile. Really not a standout player to me at all, and entirely replaceable.


I'm not sure if Ruthervin see it the same way though. Whether DOC was an important target that they really want to keep...or if he was more just a target that could be useful, but could also be a coveted deadline trade chip for a team that isn't entirely sure if they're coming or going, buyers or sellers when the deadline rolls around.

But if it were up to me, i'd absolutely make a reasonable deal to send DOC to Edmonton. Problem being, Oilers don't have a lot in the way of interesting prospects to deal with, so it'd presumably just be a pick that can be flipped for something else i guess.

I assume his value is a third.

Cap+1st for Pettersson

Fernstrom (3rd rounder) for DOC

is how I broke that down.

Not sure what Vegas and Edmonton were offering? A 4th? I'd be fine with a 3rd as a return unless he blossoms for Vancouver.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

No they can’t. Condition on the trade is oilers 1st this year is top 12 protected, if it’s in the top 12 (which it won’t be) PHI gets Oilers 2026 1st. If the Oilers trade their 2026 1st then PHI gets the 2025 1st unprotected.

Is this true? It's not what I've heard

No.

If you are right then the Oilers will just trade the 2026 first which teams seem to be higher on.