Seravalli: Oilers tried to acquire Drew O'Connor last week, looking for a backup plan now with similar traits (big and fast) Holloway replacement

[LTIR]

I wish Nashville would send you Cole Smith...

Colton S would from NSH would actually be a great fit for Oilers. Better than O'Connor

 

[ChaoticOrange]

But there are no breaks in the playoffs. These older bucks will tire out. And yes, I'm aware Kane is back for the playoffs only, but someone older needs to go if we are to inject some energy into the lineup. It's frustrating because all these guys are doing just enough to keep their jobs, but it's not enough overall with what's ahead for the team. Who would you move out?

I don't know that we need to move anyone out, honestly. If Kane's not back until playoffs we have some flexibility.

Though, if we're moving anyone out, my #1 guy is Adam Henrique. Add a good winger, shift RNH to 3C, and run:

TBD-McDavid-Hyman
Pod-Drai-Skinner (who's looked great the last few games)
Arvidsson-RNH-Brown
Janmark/Kane-Philp/Janmark-Perry

 

[qc14]

Could've gotten NAK off waivers for free ...

 

[Trade]

Ryan Poehling from Philly?

He's not huge but he's a bigger guy and is solid defensively with good speed. Depends what the Oilers want outside of 'big and fast' though, as he offers next to no offense.

Honestly, Poehling is a pretty good comparison for DOC. Both fast and decent on the PK/defensively, but leave a ton to be desired everywhere else. Poehling could fill that hole left by Holloway if the need is a bigger, speedy 4th liner.

IMO DOC has a higher ceiling. He has stretches of play where he looks like he could be a 45 point PWF.

Sadly, players rarely play worse once leaving the Sullivan-led Penguins. Expecting him to have a hot end to the season.

 

[MessierThanThou]

I don't know that we need to move anyone out, honestly. If Kane's not back until playoffs we have some flexibility.

Though, if we're moving anyone out, my #1 guy is Adam Henrique. Add a good winger, shift RNH to 3C, and run:

TBD-McDavid-Hyman
Pod-Drai-Skinner (who's looked great the last few games)
Arvidsson-RNH-Brown
Janmark/Kane-Philp/Janmark-Perry

I might agree on Henrique actually, but I think we should try him on RNH's wing on the third line before making the move. I think Henrique for Dumoulin or Connor Murphy (or a goalie) might be feasible since Henrique is on a good deal for another year. On the other hand, Janmark-Henrique-Brown might be effective again in the playoffs.

I liked Arvidsson with Janmark last night. Maybe Arvy-Janmark-Brown is something?

Also, I think it's worth calling up Matthew Savoie asap to see if he might be an internal solution to our energy problems.

 

[MessierThanThou]

Ryan Poehling from Philly?

He's not huge but he's a bigger guy and is solid defensively with good speed. Depends what the Oilers want outside of 'big and fast' though, as he offers next to no offense.

I know it's two years ago, but according to Google's A.I...

"Poehling had the top speed recorded during the entire 2022-23 season at 24.32 miles per hour"

He's also an inch taller than Holloway, roughly the same weight, and his cap hit is under 2 mil.

And has one of the craziest stat lines I've ever seen...

2018-19 - 1 GP: 3 G * 0 A * 3 Pts

Here's his scouting report via Sports Forecaster:

The 2017 first-rounder may never live up to his NHL debut, when he had a hat trick and scored the shootout winner. Has plenty of speed but has trouble picking up the pace with the puck on his stick, meaning that he needs improvement at making plays while going at high speed. He has a good one-time release and positions himself well, but might be better off on the wing than in the middle.

EDIT: AND on a team of mostly minus players, he's at a 0, which is slightly encouraging.

Colton S would from NSH would actually be a great fit for Oilers. Better than O'Connor

Sissons has more hits than O'Connor too. He might work!

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

Funniest moment from DOC's time in Pittsburgh.

 

[Macheteops]

This..100%. It was a poor decision made by the Oilers that is now going to cost them more in assets than the 2.4 million that would have easily been covered by the rising cap. Young middle 6 forwards under long-term/reasonable $ contracts are the Holy Grail of contending teams. Yet Bowman/Jackson really look bad for not matching. Broberg would have been understandable to let go, even though they probably shouldn't have for the same reason of now it will cost you more ($/assets) for the same kind of player going forward. But the Holloway one is going to hurt in the meantime, more, because of the lack of scoring depth on the Oilers.

No idea why they still didn't match Holloway at that price. His potential was worth it and even if he didn't put up stats like he is in St.Louis he brings more to the table and would be a good third line addition

I'm not sure how much St.Louis really wanted Holloway. I think they were just trying to make it tougher for Edmonton to match Broberg and likely assumed Holloway would of been matched at that price

I wouldn't be surprised they didn't match out of spite. Bad way to run an organization

 

[Cloudedthought]

These articles around players that get traded, but are UFA at the end of the year having multiple suitors has to be a new form of meddling?

 

[FerrisRox]

Would be nice, but I doubt it, since Montreal seems to think they have a legit shot of making the playoffs.

I don't think the Montreal brass thinks they have a snowballs chance in hell of making the playoffs. The Canadiens have lost six of their last seven games and aren't in the mix for the wildcard spots.

 

[Fatass]

I don't think the Montreal brass thinks they have a snowballs chance in hell of making the playoffs. The Canadiens have lost six of their last seven games and aren't in the mix for the wildcard spots.

Habs are done for this year. DOC is the kind of big, fast, and not too expensive guy they should be looking at in free agency though. The Habs are close and need to move out some of their older guys on bigger cap hits.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

with the reported demand for DOC.... from Vancouver, Edmonton, Vegas and others...... why did Dubas include DOC as part of the trade almost like a throw in? He probably could have gotten a 3rd round pick or better if DOC was traded on his own especially when you have 3 teams in the same division fighting for him.


M Pettersson was at the top of the leaderboard for Dmen on alot of trade boards so he was going to get that 1st rounder no matter what...

but then Pitt also ate 2 cap dumps with term in Heinen and Desharnais?

I'm sure Pitt is satisfied with the first but i just dont think they maximized value with the demand for DOC and eating cap dumps w. term.

1st
Desharnais
Heinen
Fenstrom

for
M. Pettersson
DOC

While you might be able to argue that Pettersson alone would fetch a 1st, the Rangers 1st has a much better chance of being higher than any of the other 1sts that will be traded this season.
Also, Desharnais is a gigantic RD who is capable of playing NHL minutes, and therefore will have some trade value. It might not be until next trade deadline, but the Penguins will be receiving an asset of some kind in return for him.

 

[vcanuck]

We're the oil also interested in M.Pettersson?

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Also, Desharnais is a gigantic RD who is capable of playing NHL minutes, and therefore will have some trade value. It might not be until next trade deadline, but the Penguins will be receiving an asset of some kind in return for him.

...only if some poor schmuck GM makes a horrible mistake...Vinny Desharnais is NOT an NHL-calibre defenseman...the 'Nucks couldn't move off him fast enough after just 30 games or so, just like the Oil last year couldn't get rid of his slow, lumbering arse fast enough after he watched most of the Finals from the pressbox...I'm sorry for Pitt fans if they are expecting anything else but a giant pylon that treats the puck like a live grenade...

 

[OtherThingsILike]

...only if some poor schmuck GM makes a horrible mistake...Vinny Desharnais is NOT an NHL-calibre defenseman...the 'Nucks couldn't move off him fast enough after just 30 games or so, just like the Oil last year couldn't get rid of his slow, lumbering arse fast enough after he watched most of the Finals from the pressbox...I'm sorry for Pitt fans if they are expecting anything else but a giant pylon that treats the puck like a live grenade...

Desharnais is doing all right as a Penguin so far. shrug If he doesn't return an asset, I'm fine with keeping him.

 

[ManofSteel55]

He's a #6D, that shouldn't excite or impress anyone given where Edmonton is in their competitive window. If that is the best Bowman can do he should quit tomorrow.

He got a young #6 D that keeps getting better as they year goes on for a cap dump.

Desharnais is doing all right as a Penguin so far. shrug If he doesn't return an asset, I'm fine with keeping him.

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He'll remain doing alright if you guys use him in the right scenarios. He's great at clogging up the net front area and killing penalties. The fact that Vancouver couldn't figure out how to use him makes me chuckle a bit.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

He'll remain doing alright if you guys use him in the right scenarios. He's great at clogging up the net front area and killing penalties. The fact that Vancouver couldn't figure out how to use him makes me chuckle a bit.

...he's OK (and that's a stretch) as long as he doesn't have to move or handle the puck...again, there's a reason he was in the Pressbox for the Finals...