Player Discussion Oilers Training Camp PTO's Travis Dermott & Mike Hoffman

[Bryanbryoil]

Do you think that we sign one or both of these players? One thing that you can never have enough of when chasing a Stanley Cup is depth. Dermott can play both sides and brings some physicality while also being a player familiar with Knoblauch. Hoffman is a one shot scorer that could maybe be had on a bargain deal to provide some scoring help in the bottom 6 and on the 2nd PP unit. He could also give us cheap top 6 insurance in case of an injury on the wings. I could see both being signed if they prove worthy of a contract.

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[grego]

If they are decent at camp, fit in and are at a good rate they can be a nice fit.

Players that realize where they are in their career have value. It is when players feel they are owed a prime spot that I have more of an issue

 

[JeffSkinner53]

I like Dermott. He's obviously a bottom pairing guy who has been injured a lot but he can play both sides as you said. He's a good 7th option in my opinion.

 

[Jumptheshark]

going to wait to see how the do in the pre season. Both were on their last legs last time I watched a game they played in

 

[Thomas Tatar]

I always wanted Hoffman, it’s a natural pair for either Draisaitl or McDavid who are amazing passers to get a one shot scorer. But Skinner is superior and I don’t see him making the top six. I feel like this is cover so that the young guys aren’t gifted opportunity and have to earn it. But he is only 34, maybe he surprises?

 

[JordanGalhanth]

It's a sorry shame how Hoffman's career got unfairly derailed by one unhinged girlfriend. Would love to see him get a Cup.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

It's a sorry shame how Hoffman's career got unfairly derailed by one unhinged girlfriend. Would love to see him get a Cup.

I mean he also hit a bit of a wall at 30, but as general depth he's better than Erne.

 

[joestevens29]

Do you think that we sign one or both of these players? One thing that you can never have enough of when chasing a Stanley Cup is depth. Dermott can play both sides and brings some physicality while also being a player familiar with Knoblauch. Hoffman is a one shot scorer that could maybe be had on a bargain deal to provide some scoring help in the bottom 6 and on the 2nd PP unit. He could also give us cheap top 6 insurance in case of an injury on the wings. I could see both being signed if they prove worthy of a contract.

Well I think Dermott might get signed sooner as I believe he is a client of Jackson's former agency, so that's something to look out for.

As for Dermott's on ice abilities I do think him being able to play either side is huge. Especially how thin we are on the left side.

Hoffman I truly don't know. His numbers were decent offensively in a limited role, but I'll have to see what he looks like on the ice before making judgement. At his age he truly could look a lot different than a few months ago.

It's a sorry shame how Hoffman's career got unfairly derailed by one unhinged girlfriend. Would love to see him get a Cup.

I don't even know if she really was the problem. He ended up marrying her I believe, but nothing really ever came out of it.

 

[brentashton]

Dermott feels like an AHL veteran kinda guy, with a small chance of a call up if the other signees go sideways.

As for Hoffman, no ill will to the player, but he seems like he’s probably done as an NHL level player. If the team needs him on the roster it means other players on the roster including newly signed and then those further down on the depth chart (lesser experienced) l aren’t stepping up as hoped. I doubt he gets a contract offer.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I always wanted Hoffman, it’s a natural pair for either Draisaitl or McDavid who are amazing passers to get a one shot scorer. But Skinner is superior and I don’t see him making the top six. I feel like this is cover so that the young guys aren’t gifted opportunity and have to earn it. But he is only 34, maybe he surprises?

he is an old 34

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I think they both make it.

 

[K1984]

I think Hoffman would be a good add, even if he was playing on the 3rd line.

I don't know if we can bank on getting steady offence from the bottom 6 at this point yet. Janmark and Brown obviously finished well, but they will likely step back a bit. Podkolzin is an unknown, and Perry is Perry. He's no juggernaught, but I think he can give us a different look if the third line gets stagnant. Worst case he's good depth to have in the AHL.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

he is an old 34

Hopefully he has more left in the tank than Turris did.

 

[harpoon]

Hopefully he has more left in the tank than Turris did.

Yeesh Kyle Turris. Don’t remind me.

 

[McFlash97]

This organizations fixation on over the hill ancient relics is astounding. So far its yielded 0 results.

 

[Drivesaitl]

It's a sorry shame how Hoffman's career got unfairly derailed by one unhinged girlfriend. Would love to see him get a Cup.

Mr and Mrs Karlson were the unhinged ones.

There was no substantiation ever of their claims and to their credit the Hoffmans didn't end up sueing.

Everything that went on in Ottawa was deplorable and Karlson was the captain of that stupid ship.

But its yet another example of how in this new age that hearsay is deemed evidence. The Karlsons were never made to prove their claims and never did. Any forensic analysis showed that it wasn't Caryk making the texts. There was no match with her IP.

At best this was a catfight. Except in Ottawa Mr and Mrs Karlson were king shit so players and wives tended to believe them over the Hoffmans.

Actually no disputing that it was the Karlsons that brought the house down in Ottawa and that the team has never recovered since.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

This organizations fixation on over the hill ancient relics is astounding. So far its yielded 0 results.

You know what a PTO is right?

They usually yield 0 results

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Free is Free. No harm in taking a look at some no obligation NHL veteran talent. Especially with an unnecessary 8 game exhibition season.

Oil stocked the RD cookie jar with veteran third pairing depth guys, Stetcher, Brown, Carrick and a hopeful prime years guy in Emberson. But there's real vulnerability if one of the cornerstone Ekholm or Nurse LD guys go down or Kulak for that matter.

Dermott will get reps and maybe earn a contract elsewhere. Or maybe accepts a situation as a versatile call-up in Bako in a break glass in case of emergency scenario.

Hard to see a bottom six role for Hoffman but another guy who can take exhibition minutes and limit unnecessary fatigue and injury risk to a very mature top six wing group. Guy with an elite shot and goal scoring instincts but not sure the wheels are there.

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Big, character left shot centre. Come soak up exhibition minutes and get ice-time in an NHL camp. Good with that.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I have no problem with PTO. We have injuries and we need more live bodies

 

[Oilslick941611]

im actually concerned over the Kane and Nurse injuries. I don't think the season will go smoothly, at least not as smooth as people here or in the media think. I don't think we will be finishing out of the playoffs, but I do think it'll be a bit of a brawl and we will have more injuries. So having more people around isn't a bad idea.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

im actually concerned over the Kane and Nurse injuries. I don't think the season will go smoothly, at least not as smooth as people here or in the media think. I don't think we will be finishing out of the playoffs, but I do think it'll be a bit of a brawl and we will have more injuries. So having more people around isn't a bad idea.

The reports say Nurse should be fine by Game 1

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

This organizations fixation on over the hill ancient relics is astounding. So far its yielded 0 results.

No shit it’s older / washed up players getting PTOs…

 

[fuswald]

I think Hoffman would be a good add, even if he was playing on the 3rd line.

I don't know if we can bank on getting steady offence from the bottom 6 at this point yet. Janmark and Brown obviously finished well, but they will likely step back a bit. Podkolzin is an unknown, and Perry is Perry. He's no juggernaught, but I think he can give us a different look if the third line gets stagnant. Worst case he's good depth to have in the AHL.

Janmark is 32. He'll do better this year with good linemates.
Brown was finally getting his MOJO back. With Henrique I see them performing better as a line as well.

Ryan and Perry got worse as the year progressed. Wear and tear.

Many (most) wingers do well way past 34 especially in playoff style hockey.
Some power forwards seem to drop off quickly though.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Janmark is 32. He'll do better this year with good linemates.
Brown was finally getting his MOJO back. With Henrique I see them performing better as a line as well.

Ryan and Perry got worse as the year progressed. Wear and tear.

Many (most) wingers do well way past 34 especially in playoff style hockey.
Some power forwards seem to drop off quickly though.

Perry I'm pretty sure was hurt because he wasn't even playing physically. Penciling in both guys as everyday 4th liners is very risky at this point in their careers. Ryan for me should be the 14th forward and Lavoie or Hoffman should alternate with Perry in the lineup.