Post-Game Talk: Oilers Lose 4-3, Florida Up 3-0, The Usual Suspects Keep Handicapping Us

[Sra1974]

If you don’t see all these posts defending Skinner then you need to work on your reading comprehension. Go buy a Flames jersey and stop dragging down the collective IQ of our fanbase.

Go to hell, seriously and honestly. Way over the line.

You said people were fans of Skinner, I said there’s very few but people are pointing out massive breakdowns that are leading to goals against. That’s not being a Skinner fan, it’s looking at the game with a broader view.

 

[MessierThanThou]

Go to hell, seriously and honestly. Way over the line.

You said people were fans of Skinner, I said there’s very few but people are pointing out massive breakdowns that are leading to goals against. That’s not being a Skinner fan, it’s looking at the game with a broader view.

I held back on you. Believe me. You should be embarrassed you made that comment given how most of the arguments here are over Skinner. I have zero respect for your reading comprehension and I hope you’re just being lazy. I have zero patience for either.

Yes, Nurse is shit and we make mistakes, but ignoring individual numbers this historically bad displays a degree of willful ignorance and delusion that I refuse to tolerate.

 

[Sra1974]

I held back on you. Believe me. You should be embarrassed you made that comment given how most of the arguments here are over Skinner. I have zero respect for your reading comprehension and I hope you’re just being lazy. I have zero patience for either.

Oh geez thanks for that. Have a good one.

 

[BlackDogg]

I hear anna Kane is coming up to watch them lose the cup

 

[TheNumber4]

Oh geez thanks for that. Have a good one.

Don’t worry about him. He’s just a hateful, spiteful dude that thinks that people care about his little tantrums towards people that chose to support a goalie that backstopped a team to the Cup Finals.

I will have to look into it I know game one Van is right for sure as well as game 5 but Dallas might not be game 2

I’ll look into and see if the theory holds water. That said the fact that it didn’t in Dallas Game 2 might be enough already to say the effect is minimal, on this team atleast.

 

[McShogun99]

I hear anna Kane is coming up to watch them lose the cup

How is she even allowed in the arena?

 

[BlackDogg]

How is she even allowed in the arena?

I have no idea. It should be harassment. And if they needed motivation maybe...?

 

[MessierThanThou]

Don’t worry about him. He’s just a hateful, spiteful dude that thinks that people care about his little tantrums towards people that chose to support a goalie that backstopped a team to the Cup Finals.

Yes, he won game 6, which we only needed because he already cost us a game in that series. You can’t keep going back to that one game and ignore all the other times he was awful, especially over the last three games when it matters more than ever. But again, you think
.868 in 2024 is fine goaltending (when you said he’s been fine in this series earlier today) so I know I’m just feeding the troll here.

Skinner’s numbers are among the absolute worst of any goalie who has gotten this far in the playoffs. I’m sorry, Nurse might be shit, but at the end of the day he’s not the goalie. You can only blame Nurse and Ceci so many times until the numbers can’t be denied, and yet here you are…

 

[cruisecity]

I think any elite goalie reads that pass and has the lateral mobility to stop that. That's just not Skinner.

Team needs to rebuild their 2nd D pairing and find a goalie this summer. The one silver lining of this playoff run is Broberg.

For sure. The most egregious being game 1 Barkov passing across. The most obvious pass in the world and he still can't get across. That's a nothing play on Bob.

 

[Oilhawks]

I hear anna Kane is coming up to watch them lose the cup

If you looked up Toxic Personality in the dictionary, you'd find her (duck)face

 

[foshizzle]

Well in that case, we kinda do know. Cause we scored zero goals. So even if Skinner had a .960 in that game we still lose. So really the only argument that it could have gone to OT is if Skinner puts up a shut out. He didn’t pitch a shut out though, and it’d be dumb to blame any goalie for not pitching a shut out.

The thing is, Skinner doesn’t even give you a chance. That’s the whole point. That first goal and second goal in the first game were bad ones in mid Feb, much less the finals. Asking to save the 6 high danger chances on him in game 1 isn’t a large ask. He wasn’t stormed. 17 shots. He should be able to stop all of them.

 

[WaitingForUser]

Don’t worry about him. He’s just a hateful, spiteful dude that thinks that people care about his little tantrums towards people that chose to support a goalie that backstopped a team to the Cup Finals.


I’ll look into and see if the theory holds water. That said the fact that it didn’t in Dallas Game 2 might be enough already to say the effect is minimal, on this team atleast.

Ok game 1 Vancouver 4-3 oilers with 6:13 remaining Zadorov blast a point shot that beats skinner high Glove. He has a few oilers obstructing his vision partially but for the most part a good sight line. Questionable goal though not absolutely terrible. Not even a minute later less actually. Having already played frantic and panicked since the 10:55 mark of the 3rd when the Canucks scored to get within one. The Team completely implodes allowing Garland to speed down the wing fake a shot and beat Skinner from a ridiculously bad angle to take the lead. 4-2 when the period started. 10:55 6:13,5:34. Lost the game two questionable goals against.

I will post more later.

 

[Cloned]

I hear anna Kane is coming up to watch them lose the cup

An OilFans special

 

[Captain Fantastic]

If you looked up Toxic Personality in the dictionary, you'd find her (duck)face

Botoxic..

 

[Stoneman89]

I don't buy that. The Henrique and Ekholm adds suggest the team sees the importance of the even strength war. For this team to improve year over year, they need to move further and further away from that overreliance of the PP and build on the bottom six depth to continue to take the load off of that already overtaxed top six.

Moving from Woodcroft to Knoblauch improved the team in that regard as well.

No question the team will struggle if the well runs dry on your special teams. But you need to find ways to generate goals.

They may have added those 2 to help with the 5 on 5, but unfortunately, a lot has been negated with Foegele and Mcleod's play, as well as Draisaitl and McDavid's lack of attention and/or effort in the defensive zone or rushes the other way to mark their man.

And as both McDavid nd Driasaitl have said, it is extremely difficult to score 5 on 5 in the playoffs, which makes special teams so crucial. Florida has had success at 5 on 5 against us in terms of goals, but most of that has been braindead giveaways and losing a man in the zone by a host of individuals.
You want to generate some goals? How about START producing on your historically best PP with the best player of his generation on it.

Making Florida pay, will also likely have the effect of pulling back some of their aggression on 5 on 5 play.

 

[Stoneman89]

We had good 5 on 5 scoring two years ago in the playoffs when Kane put up a boat load of goals.

Since then the last two playoffs we've had to rely more on the PP because we don't have the goods on the wing for our centers to play with. McDavid gets the wingers and Leon generally gets shit which means basically you have a 1 line team 5 on 5.

But this org knew full well Kane had a sports hernia on top of the issues with his hand going into the trade deadline, they did nothing about it really or made the bet that Henrqiue and Brown would be the answers for secondary scoring.

How are McDavid's incredible wingers doing this round?

 

[Lannes]

For sure. The most egregious being game 1 Barkov passing across. The most obvious pass in the world and he still can't get across. That's a nothing play on Bob.

100%. Too many people have said that goal wasn't on Skinner and I find that inexplicable.

Sure, it's not in his 'ten worst' of the post-season in the sense that its not EGREGIOUSLY terrible but it's still a stop a starter should make. It was such a killer, too. The Oilers were carrying the play and getting stoned by Bob and then Stu whiffs on a play everyone saw coming. This is what the, 'goalie doesn't lose you the game when you don't score duhr huhr' crowd willfully ignores.

The unholy trinity of Stu Skinner net minding is soft goals, untimely goals and gift-wrapped goals. We've seen all three so far in the SCF.