Overkamp
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I was wondering when the gloves would come off. Sour grapes. .
I think you'd have a hard time finding anyone to disagree with the premise that they were offered more money than their performance to date had earned them. But as Bowman added in the article, "The players can probably grow into those deals, but as of today, they're way above their actual performance." I think that's where the organization is at, and as a fan I agree. The risk (in draft picks) was relatively low, and the reward could be very high. If one or both fail to pan out, we can easily move on in two years.
I was wondering when the gloves would come off. Sour grapes. .
Well of course the offer sheets were way above their current performance. That’s the only way an offer sheet has the ability to be successful.
I was wondering when the gloves would come off. Sour grapes. .
That’s precisely my point. It’s like yeah, that’s how this works lolWell of course the offer sheets were way above their current performance. That’s the only way an offer sheet has the ability to be successful.
I was wondering when the gloves would come off. Sour grapes. .
I wouldn't say its sour grapes at all just stating facts, he literally said there is no bad blood between him and Army in the same interview and that they are still friendly. He also mentioned that their priority was getting Drai signed so he was explaining why they didn't match.
Agreed. The Score article is trying to make it into more of a story. It’s an article based on an article. Click on the actual article from the Athletic and you get this:I wouldn't say its sour grapes at all just stating facts, he literally said there is no bad blood between him and Army in the same interview and that they are still friendly. He also mentioned that their priority was getting Drai signed so he was explaining why they didn't match.
In this case, though, at least on the surface, it would appear there isn’t any barn fight looming between the Oilers and the Blues. Or at least not between Armstrong and new Oilers GM Stan Bowman.
“No, I think things are fine,” Bowman told The Athletic this past week. “I’ve known Doug a long time. He’s a very bright guy, a good person. I think sometimes more is made out of that.
“He was trying to do what he could to make his team better. Once you get past the surprise of it, and you then roll your sleeves up and get to work on what you want to do, I don’t think there’s any value in holding grudges. I mean, what good is going to come out of that?
“So, no, for me personally, you have to work with everybody in the league even if you don’t like people, but that’s not the case with Doug anyway. He’s a good person and I don’t have any animosity or issues with Doug Armstrong.”
The deals are absolutely above their current performance, but we aren't paying for their current performance. Our goal was to get them for a 2nd and a 3rd. We did that (tho, we did add an additional 3rd and a prospect as well)
If you factor in the acquisition cost to get two young first round players coming into their prime years, its a steal. The fact that the acquisition price is being paid TO THE PLAYERS in the form of overpaying them a bit rather than to Edmonton makes no difference to us. Draft capital, prospects returning NHL players, retained salary, its all just currency to move player contracts and assemble your team. Edmonton got their compensation picks, and they also got a little cap space....but overall they'd have been a hell of a lot smarter to move those guys for returns of their choosing which could strengthen their Cup contending status. Instead, they got very little they can make use of right now.I think you'd have a hard time finding anyone to disagree with the premise that they were offered more money than their performance to date had earned them. But as Bowman added in the article, "The players can probably grow into those deals, but as of today, they're way above their actual performance." I think that's where the organization is at, and as a fan I agree. The risk (in draft picks) was relatively low, and the reward could be very high. If one or both fail to pan out, we can easily move on in two years.
Since his first post-OS presser, Bowman has better crafted and rehearsed his replies and sound bites. That first presser was a little cringey and laden with excuses right off the bat. He is much clearer and succinct in the Athletic interview.I don't see this as Bowman talking shit, just stating facts. Everyone knew this already but if we offered them 1.5 and 1 mill each for 1 year the Oilers would have kept them. Gotta give to get.
I expect the fans to give it to both of them and boo every time they touch the puck. But I don't expect the players to taking cheap shots or looking to punish either physically (beyond what you want to try with every opposing player). Players understand that this is a business and every player in that locker room knows that they would have taken above-market contracts if given the opportunity.December 7th in Edmonton. Mark it down. Oil fans are going to be ready to unleash some pent up emotion ... especially if they seem to be a defenseman short of being elite. Holloway will be ready for some cheap shots. How will Broberg handle all of that attention? Must watch TV at its best.
I expect the fans to give it to both of them and boo every time they touch the puck. But I don't expect the players to taking cheap shots or looking to punish either physically (beyond what you want to try with every opposing player). Players understand that this is a business and every player in that locker room knows that they would have taken above-market contracts if given the opportunity.
You very rarely see ex-teammates punishing a guy for leaving in free agency.
I think it is a must-watch game for the atmosphere and to see how our new guys handle being the focal point of the fans/media. But I don't expect on-ice hatred or silliness.
Here's a gem...
Weren't too happy with....their GM?
I hope we get a Blues Oilers playoff series this year lol