Proposal: Oilers - Flyers (Carter Hart)

[Captain Controversy]

Opinions on Oilers trading for Hart?

Oilers giving Raphael Lavoie, 1st in 2023 and Mike Smith(if he is willing to waive)

For Hart

Oilers "great" Goaltending coach works with Hart in the offseasons. I assume there is a fit.

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[DickSmehlik]

I think Hart would benefit from a team that plays a solid defensive system.

Edmonton is not that team.

 

[TFHockey]

Opinions on Oilers trading for Hart?

Oilers giving Raphael Lavoie, 1st in 2023 and Mike Smith(if he is willing to waive)

For Hart

Oilers "great" Goaltending coach works with Hart in the offseasons. I assume there is a fit.

I don't think that is enough to land Carter Hart. Philly values him as their franchise goalie. I am guessing a 1st in 2022, Xavier Bourgault, Skinner, and another lesser asset, like a B+ prospect.

 

[pit]

Flyers management does not see the current state of this team accurately and is looking to retool instead of rebuild. They won't trade away a young #1, especially since he is one of the few saving graces this season after he had a bad year last year.

Even if they were rebuilding, I'm not sure why they would send away Hart.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

My opinion of trading Carter Hart:

F*** NO

Do y'all realize how long it's taken for us to get a home grown, franchise goaltender?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Philly says no easily

 

[Rebels57]

Not a chance.

And if there was, that offer is terrible.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Hell effin no. GTFO

 

[The Red Line]

Philly should hold on to Hart. They spent forever trying to find their goalie.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

What a joke.. easy no. Even if he was available.

 

[Akrapovince]

Goalies like Hart almost never get traded. Philly would trade a goaltender and immediately be looking for another to mind their net for the next decade, and I’m sure Oilers fans know that isn’t exactly easy to do. Really sets their franchise back.

Watched Hart play during his SPKAC days, the kid is a winner. Love his mentality.

You’re looking at probably a bigger ransom from Hart than you are Gibson to be completely honest. Who else does Philly have in their pipeline?

2023 1st round pick + Bourgault + Skinner is probably the starting blocks. Much too much for the Oilers to give up and I’m not even sure Philly fans say yes to that.

Edmonton should be targeting goalie prospects that seem close to breaking out. Not back up goalies that have a great stretch that they try to recycle a la Smith, Talbot (which was great while it was good), Scrivens, etc.

Maybe something like targeting Senators Gus the Bus or something.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Goalies like Hart almost never get traded. Philly would trade a goaltender and immediately be looking for another to mind their net for the next decade, and I’m sure Oilers fans know that isn’t exactly easy to do. Really sets their franchise back.

Watched Hart play during his SPKAC days, the kid is a winner. Love his mentality.

You’re looking at probably a bigger ransom from Hart than you are Gibson to be completely honest. Who else does Philly have in their pipeline?

2023 1st round pick + Bourgault + Skinner is probably the starting blocks. Much too much for the Oilers to give up and I’m not even sure Philly fans say yes to that.

Edmonton should be targeting goalie prospects that seem close to breaking out. Not back up goalies that have a great stretch that they try to recycle a la Smith, Talbot (which was great while it was good), Scrivens, etc.

Maybe something like targeting Senators Gus the Bus or something.

I wish I had the numbers breakdown - maybe @Appleyard has it handy since he's the one who did it, but the numbers show that every goaltender (w/exception of Jim Carrey) who has Hart's developmental pedigree/accomplishments has been *at least* a fairly good starter in the NHL for their career.

I'm not trading Carter Hart to EDM unless Draisitil or McDavid is involved.

Before you freak out calling me a moron: I get it. That will *never* happen in real life. I'm fine with that - but these spare parts for THE guy in net for a decade potentially is just not worth it. I'm keeping Hart at all costs right now. Cornerstone of this franchise at the moment.

 

[BlueBaron]

Lol.

Maybe I have a massive disconnect but Hart kind of seems like the future of the Flyers to me.

If I was their GM I'd tell you unless Dra is involved stop bothering me. Picks aren't going to cut it .

 

[tgo0]

I wish I had the numbers breakdown - maybe @Appleyard has it handy since he's the one who did it, but the numbers show that every goaltender (w/exception of Jim Carrey) who has Hart's developmental pedigree/accomplishments has been *at least* a fairly good starter in the NHL for their career.

I'm not trading Carter Hart to EDM unless Draisitil or McDavid is involved.

Before you freak out calling me a moron: I get it. That will *never* happen in real life. I'm fine with that - but these spare parts for THE guy in net for a decade potentially is just not worth it. I'm keeping Hart at all costs right now. Cornerstone of this franchise at the moment.

Didn’t he win a Vezina or am I completely misremembering history?

 

[BlueBaron]

I wish I had the numbers breakdown - maybe @Appleyard has it handy since he's the one who did it, but the numbers show that every goaltender (w/exception of Jim Carrey) who has Hart's developmental pedigree/accomplishments has been *at least* a fairly good starter in the NHL for their career.

I'm not trading Carter Hart to EDM unless Draisitil or McDavid is involved.

Before you freak out calling me a moron: I get it. That will *never* happen in real life. I'm fine with that - but these spare parts for THE guy in net for a decade potentially is just not worth it. I'm keeping Hart at all costs right now. Cornerstone of this franchise at the moment.

Johnathan Bernier might qualify with Carey. He really projected to be a star.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Didn’t he win a Vezina or am I completely misremembering history?

He did - I think Carey was filtered out because he only played a few seasons at a high level and then dropped off/out of the league fast

 

[ponder719]

Saw the thread title, immediately said no.

Clicked on the thread, my mind was not changed by what I read.

Trading Hart makes no sense unless either we're upgrading on Hart (so, if someone like Vasilevskiy demands out) or the returning value is so stupidly lopsided in Philly's favor that it'd be a firing offense not to take the deal (a Drai-level superstar).

 

[CaptainCrunch67]

As soon as you put Mike Smith in the equation with another year of contract, the phone gets hung up.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Carter Hart is the very least of Philly's worries, they wrote this year off as they got plagued by injuries and should bounce back decently next year

 

[C0DITH]

Carter Hart is legit the only reason the team isn't last. He on pretty much any contending team would put up top numbers. If the Flyers trade him (one - they would be idiots - but that seems to be the norm lately), and (Two, the return would be much much bigger than that pathetic offer).

 

[McSuper]

I wish I had the numbers breakdown - maybe @Appleyard has it handy since he's the one who did it, but the numbers show that every goaltender (w/exception of Jim Carrey) who has Hart's developmental pedigree/accomplishments has been *at least* a fairly good starter in the NHL for their career.

I'm not trading Carter Hart to EDM unless Draisitil or McDavid is involved.

Before you freak out calling me a moron: I get it. That will *never* happen in real life. I'm fine with that - but these spare parts for THE guy in net for a decade potentially is just not worth it. I'm keeping Hart at all costs right now. Cornerstone of this franchise at the moment.

What are you adding to get McDavid ? Going to have to be a lot . I think if the Flyers added McDavid they would be an attractive land for UFA

 

[LTIR]

Carter Hart is legit the only reason the team isn't last. He on pretty much any contending team would put up top numbers. If the Flyers trade him (one - they would be idiots - but that seems to be the norm lately), and (Two, the return would be much much bigger than that pathetic offer).

I think most including Oil fans would/should agree with this.

 

[flyerslducks]

I know we have chuck fletcher but cmon dude. Terrible offer lol

 

[Cup or Bust]

I can't see why the Flyers would want to trade Hart.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I can see the Oilers and Flyers making a trade in the next few days, but it'll be for Braun. Hart is a pipe dream.