Post-Game Talk: Oilers didn't get shut out vs. the BJs

[JeffSkinner53]

If Connor is our long term let's see Leon step up

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Team is still pouty from losing in G7. Coupled with a coaching staff that is actively coaching the intensity and physicality out of the team on purpose, we are what we are. Big test with McD out and we need to smoke these next two teams before the brutal November begins. Call up Philp and Savoie, bench 2 of the bottom 9 bums.

Time for Ryan Nothing-Hopkins and Hyman to step up....

The lack of physicality is disturbing. I guess getting fed our lunch physically with no answer against Vancouver last season didn't turn any lightbulbs on in our management's brains.

Perry is too slow to hit, Podkolzin tried but isn't big or strong enough to really wreck guys. Then you have Nurse and Emberson on D trying to throw hits. Soft, soft, soft.

 

[Video Nasty]

All I’m asking for at this point is the team to step up and make it easier to stomach any sort of extended McDavid absence by not completely bottoming out and putting the pressure on a rushed return, ala last season.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

All I’m asking for at this point is the team to step up and make it easier to stomach any sort of extended McDavid absence by not completely bottoming out and putting the pressure on a rushed return, ala last season.

He hasn't looked himself this season already. This isn't helping matters sadly.

 

[iCanada]

Can we be done with the Skinner experiment already? He's not good enough and he won't be good enough.

 

[iCanada]

Very few shots seem to pick the corners. Pretty tough to beat good NHL goalies with that strategy.

Problem is we're used to lighting up Old Stu in practice. Why would we need to pick corners?

 

[CycloneSweep]

PP is at 13.8% (27th)
PK is at 62.1% (31st)
We currently have the worst combined special teams at 75.9%
Current best is the Jets at 133.3%
Last year we were at 105.8%. Huge huge gap.

 

[foshizzle]

He can be better than this, it starts with him moving his feet and playing with pace. He hasn't done this much in the last couple of seasons but he has shown the ability at times in his career.

He has never been a good 5v5 player, Bryan. He is what he is, a good special teams player and complimentary winger. There is a reason no coach has played him as part of the centre spine every fan has been saying since McDavid has been drafted.

 

[McAsuno]

PP is at 13.8% (27th)
PK is at 62.1% (31st)
We currently have the worst combined special teams at 75.9%
Current best is the Jets at 133.3%
Last year we were at 105.8%. Huge huge gap.

It's just mind-boggling how f***ing dog shit our special teams have been.

 

[foshizzle]

The lack of physicality is disturbing. I guess getting fed our lunch physically with no answer against Vancouver last season didn't turn any lightbulbs on in our management's brains.

Perry is too slow to hit, Podkolzin tried but isn't big or strong enough to really wreck guys. Then you have Nurse and Emberson on D trying to throw hits. Soft, soft, soft.

Rishaug brings this up on his podcast all the time- and he mentions he asked the coach during the playoff run almost every week. This coach doesn’t really coach that way and philosophically doesn’t believe in it. To quote Rishaug quoting Knob “check with the legs” is the mantra.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

PP is at 13.8% (27th)
PK is at 62.1% (31st)
We currently have the worst combined special teams at 75.9%
Current best is the Jets at 133.3%
Last year we were at 105.8%. Huge huge gap.

Not to mention goals saved above expected I believe is league worst and 5v5 goals is also at or near worst. Hits per 60 are 1/3 of last season and also I believe at or near league worst.

This goes way way beyond special teams.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Rishaug brings this up on his podcast all the time- and he mentions he asked the coach during the playoff run almost every week. This coach doesn’t really coach that way and philosophically doesn’t believe in it. To quote Rishaug quoting Knob “check with the legs” is the mantra.

Another Eakins.
“Perfect game no hits”

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

I just hope McDavid isn’t affected long term. I hope his absence forces the team to play better as a team and when McDavid returns we go nuclear.

We’ll know more tomorrow as far as how long he’s out. Hoping it’s not too serious and our captain is feeling good soon

 

[Drivesaitl]

Problem is we're used to lighting up Old Stu in practice. Why would we need to pick corners?

This was my exact thought good sir. Maybe they should get the shooter tutor out instead.

I just hope McDavid isn’t affected long term. I hope his absence forces the team to play better as a team and when McDavid returns we go nuclear.

We’ll know more tomorrow as far as how long he’s out. Hoping it’s not too serious and our captain is feeling good soon

Was kind of odd seeing others like Nuge saying they had to rise up in a game they did absolutely none of that in. It wasn't a rally around game. At least Drai played the night before and was pretty much the reason we won that game at all. The rest of the forwards ain't doing jack squat. Drai could be excused for being a bit fatigued tonight. Other players had no excuse.

 

[Drivesaitl]

He can be better than this, it starts with him moving his feet and playing with pace. He hasn't done this much in the last couple of seasons but he has shown the ability at times in his career.

I'd say the +100 pt season shows some of that. Unfortunately the intent most years doesn't. What I've always said about Nuge, and McLellan did too, is he leaves a lot off the table. He doesn't give his all typically. Its a shame because when he's being more agressive physically and offensively hes' much more engaged. Not sure what he needs to get there but some kind of motivation. Do you think he's a player that needs to get upset to find his game more? I'm wondering what motivates him specifically. What kind of thing works. Longterm parking with McD, it wasn't working anymore.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Adversity time. This team has slumbered through 1/8 of the season and a pillow soft schedule of opposition. It's time to see what this old veteran group has for character and resilience with its leader and super elite out. Short-term this can be fuel to get more working to carry the load and create some results. If McDavid is out long-term Houston they have a problem.

Time to nut up. Whatever the recurring malaise is (it's never been about coaching) this team has got to put on their workboots and play with significantly more urgency along with attention to detail in their game. Clock's ticking.

 

[CrazyJoeDavola]

The lack of physicality is disturbing. I guess getting fed our lunch physically with no answer against Vancouver last season didn't turn any lightbulbs on in our management's brains.

Perry is too slow to hit, Podkolzin tried but isn't big or strong enough to really wreck guys. Then you have Nurse and Emberson on D trying to throw hits. Soft, soft, soft.

Rishaug pressed Knobby about this during playoffs and he said he thinks hitting is a sign of not having the puck and he'd rather have the team "check with their feet". It's not that this team isn't physical, it's that they are being deliberately coached to NOT hit at all, which is playing into how hard we play. We are dead last in the league at hits/60. Almost 10 below what we were last season, too. I know a lot of this is on the players, but it doesnt help when we have another set of coaches that just don't like firing this team up to play high intensity in your face hockey. Woody was also famous for lazy short practices with zero intensity, too. I really don't see much of a difference between either of them at this point, tbh.

 

[CrazyJoeDavola]

I'd say the +100 pt season shows some of that. Unfortunately the intent most years doesn't. What I've always said about Nuge, and McLellan did too, is he leaves a lot off the table. He doesn't give his all typically. Its a shame because when he's being more agressive physically and offensively hes' much more engaged. Not sure what he needs to get there but some kind of motivation. Do you think he's a player that needs to get upset to find his game more? I'm wondering what motivates him specifically. What kind of thing works. Longterm parking with McD, it wasn't working anymore.

100pt szn was due to him being backpacked by the greatest powerplay in the history of the league. I don't expect him to really do much else unless he can be carried by McDrai. He's the bouchard of our top 6 in terms of work ethic, pace, and intensity but has the ability to bust out a head-turning defensive play once every few games.

He doesn't lead or drive anything; he waits for everyone else and sits in the shadows