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Hopefully Broberg does better than Samorukov for you guys.Sombody is salty.
Hopefully Broberg does better than Samorukov for you guys.Sombody is salty.
1. The Blues have not retained any cap hit across multiple seasons when trading a player since Armstrong has been GM. Nor have they used a buyout.And if the money didn't matter why did Armstrong not eat 50% and save a 2nd round pick?
So when you've given up 2nd+2nd+3rd+3rd+3rd+prospect you're in fact actually quite likely to be giving up an NHLer making 950k?
He isn't. Blues overpaid so Oilers couldn't match. Oilers offered him less than 1.5M x2 which is about what he is worth next season. Blues are banking on him improving big time.Apparently ye is worth 4.5 or did ypu not get the memo
"they viewed the pick to be less valuable than the cap hit".1. The Blues have not retained any cap hit across multiple seasons when trading a player since Armstrong has been GM. Nor have they used a buyout.
2. They likely viewed the pick to be less valuable than the cap hit it the Blues would incur if they bought out or retained part of his salary (which would agree with).
3. Hayes was an attempt at a solution to be a third center for a few seasons. He wasn’t the answer. He’s OK at his current cap hit but doesn’t fill the role the Blues brought him in for.
4. If $$$$ was concern, they would have tied a pick to moving Krug
Oilers are cooked !!
They lost arguably their 2nd best PKer after Ekholm in Desharnais and a big body that made it very difficult for opposing teams to establish net front presence or get a shot on goal .
Biggest loss is they are losing 2 of their biggest unsung heroes last year in the playoffs who helped them get to game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals in Holloway and Broberg. Holloway has put up amazing numbers in every league he has played in and only gotten better year after year and as a rookie looked tremendous. He's a gamer and big and fast and skilled.
Broberg same as Holloway performed amazing in the playoffs and is a young puck mobile dman at 6'4 212 lbs and has boat loads of untapped potential still .
Not sure if an unpopular opinion or not but Foegele is a big loss for them as well who performed above and beyond expectations in the playoffs with his relentless forechecking and great 2 way play . He is big and super fast and skilled who was also one of their best PKers as well . There were many times he created offense all by himself and secondary scoring is huge and crucial in a long playoff run . NGL his speed and number obv had me mistake him for Mcdavid a couple times .
Wow Oilers have gotten smaller and less mean and are worse overall for it .
Yeah, but they made their defence even weaker but they are basically a lock for playoffs so I guess it makes senseThe glib answer is "because he's bad at hockey."
Realistically, the Ceci trade gives the Oilers about $2m additional flexibility for an in-season acquisition, and it looks like they don't have to put Kane on LTIR as a result of this series of moves. Someone who knows their team better might be able to give a more precise answer, but that's my best guess.
and if money over the next 2 years doesn't matter, why did Armstrong not retain 50% and save a 2nd round pick? (and a 3rd when he had to trade for it back)
re-tread for another offenive dman, that does seem their speedTyson Barrie to EDM... my guess.
With what cap space or assets?Cap flexibility for an upgrade. I don't imagine the Oilers are done here. Expect those St. Louis draft picks to belong to someone else relatively soon.
So they have more cap space to replace Holloway and Broberg down the line. I think they’d rather have the flexibility to make an add after camp, in-season or at the deadline than be forced to make a move this week while they’re under the gun. Smart move i.m.o.So why dump Ceci?
Hopefully Broberg does better than Samorukov for you guys.
Retaining on Hayes or buying him out would have likely overlapped with the time the Blues will likely be in a position to contend again their prospects and current players."they viewed the pick to be less valuable than the cap hit".
YUP.
So money, and cap hit, in fact DOES matter to St Louis over the next 2 years. And so the amount they overpaid Broberg and Holloway IS relevant
I don't expect them to use this immediately, I think they're going to be looking in season to see what's available first. Edmonton is plenty good enough for the playoffs as it stands, so they don't need to do anything desperate and see how the cards fall.Cap flexibility for an upgrade. I don't imagine the Oilers are done here. Expect those St. Louis draft picks to belong to someone else relatively soon.
2.4 mill buried cap hit on hayes+1.2 mill to Holloway+1.8 mill to Broberg = 5.4 mill total cap hitLast time I'm responding to you, but retained money doesn't help you win. Money always matters but the important thing is how you spend it. Do you want to pay players to play for your team or not to play for your team? Clearly Armstrong preferred to pay a 2nd instead of retaining money. I can see both sides to that, but having extra cap space made these offer sheets possible.
Kostin got a pretty big ovation in playoffs last season by Oil fans. We hope Podkolzin brings the same energy this year.When is the Klim Kostin banner raising ceremony in Edmonton?
And 7.7M dollarsSt.Louis adding 2 young players for a 2nd and 3rd . Smrt