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MikeS24 said:
Are you? I'm just talking about a potential bug. That's not "nothing" in a finals. This isn't round one
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No you're jumping to conclusions and getting excited about something that there is NO evidence that a flu bug is going around lol lol
 
Drivesaitl said:
Sure. But the degree to the teams laying down, its kind of shocking. Both Dallas and Vegas fluked out a game one win and then got swept. Just swept. Destroyed. In a capped league you don't expect that imbalance. Credit to the Oilers, for sure, but its been some token opposition since the first two games of playoffs. Not even the glory years Oilers were carving through playoffs this easily. The only time even comparable to this was 1988 when an Oilers team just plowed through teams in the playoffs.

The NHL has a competition problem on its hands. Theres Oilers and Panthers and then everybody else.
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Drivesaitl said:
The Dallas forwards, all of them, were horrible in the series. I don't even recuse Robertson who was awful in the early games. none of them showed. People expected their D to be the weak point but it was their forward lineup who didn't bring it. None of their star players got going and in that respect it was just like the Knights series.

Rants had zero goals. Hintz didn't get one till last game. Johnson was horrible, got nothing. Dallas forwards were a frustrated group that looked like they couldn't finish in an empty net and then got into cheating forward for goals that they weren't getting. Dallas gave up all these oddman breaks because their forward group were disengaged, not scoring, and frankly giving up on game plan. I'd be livid too as a coach.

No coach would survive a 11M buck forward being mostly invisible in the series. of of the whole team only scoring 11 goals in the series and always giving up first goals. Untenable.
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I think this is a testament to our very strong group of Dmen. I honestly don’t remember the last time we had such a strong group.
 
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Drivesaitl said:
Our opponents are a collective 2-12 the last 14 GP. Sure the Oilers have been good, sure the opponents haven't believed they could beat us. Haven't played with Verve, aggression etc. Again Marchment was the most physical opponent player we've seen, but him and Benn really were the only ones.

Who in the LA lineup was trying to impose will. Who in the Vegas lineup? They wanted nothing of Kane, Nurse, Perry etc. lol Danault was complaining about the Oilers being dirty and please don't hurt us..

Perry was even saying in game one conference final to an opponent "you're turtling" Against a guy thats supposed to be tough. Teams haven't even had somebody to match Perry. forget about Kane or Nurse. They won't even try.
Florida probably won't lay down as easily.
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it's an oversimplification to say that these teams, these forwards "didn't play good". it takes away from the incredible shut down effort the oilers put in. they were shut down.
 
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Drivesaitl said:
The Dallas forwards, all of them, were horrible in the series. I don't even recuse Robertson who was awful in the early games. none of them showed. People expected their D to be the weak point but it was their forward lineup who didn't bring it. None of their star players got going and in that respect it was just like the Knights series.

Rants had zero goals. Hintz didn't get one till last game. Johnson was horrible, got nothing. Dallas forwards were a frustrated group that looked like they couldn't finish in an empty net and then got into cheating forward for goals that they weren't getting. Dallas gave up all these oddman breaks because their forward group were disengaged, not scoring, and frankly giving up on game plan. I'd be livid too as a coach.

No coach would survive a 11M buck forward being mostly invisible in the series. of of the whole team only scoring 11 goals in the series and always giving up first goals. Untenable.
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I think a post I had in the series thread covers this point well
Dazed and Confused said:
To be fair, I think they ran into the same issue as the Leafs.

The root cause is the Oil feasting on Lindell-Ceci or FLA being in a position to hit Tanev 100+ times. When half your defence struggles to move the puck quickly, they're going to get caught by a heavy forecheck and your forwards are going to look slow.


Meanwhile this is how the Oil have stayed out of trouble vs. 3 teams known to choke the life out of their opponents defensively (LA, Vegas, and Dallas), and it's their best hope vs. Florida: Every defenceman on the Oil can transition the puck quickly before the forecheck arrives.
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The Oilers' defence does an outstanding job slingshotting the forwards into attacking, and the other big piece of the puzzle has been every line on the Oil making life hell for opposition defences.

They're flying at you at 100km/hr, and near every line has someone that's going to try and put you through the boards (Kane, Frederic, Podz, Hyman :cry: , Kap), and/or someone that will make you pay if you're not in position defensively (McDavid/RNH, Drai/Kane, RV, and Skinner last game).

Like a tide, they just keep coming wave after wave with no chance to catch your breath. McDavid or Drai don't even need to go superhuman for them to become suffocating/overwhelming.
 
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fancy dan said:
it's an oversimplification to say that these teams, these forwards "didn't play good". it takes away from the incredible shut down effort the oilers put in. they were shut down.
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There's a reasonable argument to support what you're saying. People already seem to have forgotten that two weeks earlier Edmonton also held Eichel, Dorofeyev, Hertl, Howden and Barbashev (all 5 of Vegas' top goal scorers from the regular season) to a combined 0 goals in the 2nd round. Their number 6 goal scorer Stone scored 2 in the first period of the first game and then was also blanked from there on out.

I'd argue the top Vegas forwards accomplished even less than Dallas'.

Did they also just "didn't play good"
 
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K1984 said:
Who even gets sick in June? Of course this happens to us.

Reminds me of the Conference Finals in '06 when a random May illness went through the team in the Conference Finals.
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Hopefully, we're considerate enough to share with the Panthers.
 
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