Pre-Game Talk: Oil vs Rat - The Sequel

[MikeS24]

RIGHT f***ING NOW!

He should make the same speech before game one lol

 

[MikeS24]

Got Oilers plus loaded up. About to start media availability with everybody from Edmonton. I usually do watch any of this stuff, but seen it pop up in notifications

 

[McHelpus]

30 more hours folks

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I watched the Vegas series thinking that the Knights don't have any, and are entirely lacking in that now. i.e. knights. Not having players like Carrier and others has changed that club. Guys like Kolesar who is awful does nothing to answer the bell either. Vegas weren't even interested in getting into that lane. They can play dirty, but they weren't capable of leaning on us or anything like that. its a changed club.

I don't know how it goes in the physicality department because the main guy we faced so far in the 3 series has been the exception rather than the rule. Marchment being a physical player willing to play his game against us, and it wasn't addressed at any point. Vegas and LA really have no facet of any physical dominating players. Florida does.

The Oilers have been way tougher than any opponent they've faced thus far but we didn't face any physical clubs and we likely have more trouble with Minny.

Oilers and panthers are no doubt the most physical however I don’t buy what you are selling. Vegas is a fast, aggressive and physical team in the playoffs.

Dallas and LA aren’t pushovers physically in the playoffs either… at all.

 

[1981 Oilers]

I don't know what you classify LA, but they appear to be trying to steal insider information by hiring Holland

I forgot to mention LA. We definitely killed them.
Did something happen between Holland and Oiler upper management? Heard a rumour he wanted his son hired and they didnt so he left. Any truth to that?

 

[OilerFanInLangley]

My biggest issue wasn't him pulling him. It was the way he did it, turning it into a spectacle of sorts. Calling timeout doing his thing on the bench then waits until Otter starts going back to the crease before shouting to call him out and going all Ari Gold on the gestures.

If pulling him was the plan, he should have just retained the timeout and used the goalie swap for the same effect (yelling at the team). He'd at least still have had the timeout and wouldn't have looked like such a goon in how he pulled him out.

Doubling down in the post-game on its own was dumb, but would have been less an issue without the spectacle he created.

100% to all of that, especially the bolded part.

It's like he wanted to publicly humiliate his goalie.

That was a really low-class move for anyone at the professional level.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Oilers and panthers are no doubt the most physical however I don’t buy what you are selling. Vegas is a fast, aggressive and physical team in the playoffs.

Dallas and LA aren’t pushovers physically in the playoffs either… at all.

We faced one player who stood up thus far. I'm not crediting him, I think he's a dirty weasel, but it was Marchment. Kolesar made himself next to invisible in series.

Just saying none of the teams we faced had any particularly interest to go to the physical alley. i thought Vegas would but turns out they are wusses. They had none of it.

If disagreeing then specifically mention which players have gone at us above and beyond just throwing some hits?

Oilers haven't even had to fight much in any of the series. None of our opponents want to go there. Florida won't be as reluctant.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

Sorry but your friend is a doofus. Must be a leaf fan because their cup is always the regular season.

I mean he's not a hockey fan of any sort lol. He literally only watches soccer. Only watches the Portugese League and the Continental Competitions.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

In lighthearted news, it looks like Klingberg got his teeth fixed before the final. Must be expecting lots of pictures

I thought they were removable veneers but they must be permanent because he had them in during the WCF.

 

[MikeS24]

This has me scared. From daily faceoff

Connor Brown (illness) missed practice on Tuesday and is a game-time decision for Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Final.

Never what's of any illness until now. Hope it's not some bug (unless it's his concussion). Funny Knob said he's ready to go

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

100% to all of that, especially the bolded part.

It's like he wanted to publicly humiliate his goalie.

That was a really low-class move for anyone at the professional level.

Ehh it wasn’t good I don’t think he meant to humiliate him there. He was probably in the black a bit.

We faced one player who stood up thus far. I'm not crediting him, I think he's a dirty weasel, but it was Marchment. Kolesar made himself next to invisible in series.

Just saying none of the teams we faced had any particularly interest to go to the physical alley. i thought Vegas would but turns out they are wusses. They had none of it.

If disagreeing then specifically mention which players have gone at us above and beyond just throwing some hits?

Oilers haven't even had to fight much in any of the series. None of our opponents want to go there. Florida won't be as reluctant.

What do you mean beyond just hits? LA was relentless after McDrai in dirty plays if that’s what you mean. Vegas hurt our goalie.

 

[Drivesaitl]

My biggest issue wasn't him pulling him. It was the way he did it, turning it into a spectacle of sorts. Calling timeout doing his thing on the bench then waits until Otter starts going back to the crease before shouting to call him out and going all Ari Gold on the gestures.

If pulling him was the plan, he should have just retained the timeout and used the goalie swap for the same effect (yelling at the team). He'd at least still have had the timeout and wouldn't have looked like such a goon in how he pulled him out.

Doubling down in the post-game on its own was dumb, but would have been less an issue without the spectacle he created.

But clearly Deboer lost it, and as I've stated its a rare instance of him doing so. He was livid, angry, and so comportment, rationale, it isn't part of sheer anger. Deboer blew a gasket, and people often lose jobs when that occurs and sometimes, if not a conscious process, its kind of what one wants or expects to happen anyway. Sometimes people get fired when they are just done with a situation. In Dallas that situation is a team that forgets how to score goals every playoffs at some point. Where the entire team just stops digging down for goals. Frankly Ott has been shit against us both series. The worst goalie against us in either playoffs. Which is odd because he's highly paid and highly touted.

 

[MikeS24]

Seriously, how do they go from brown will play yesterday to game time decision today

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Seriously, how do they go from brown will play yesterday to game time decision today

Never show any of your hand even if it’s a small thing.

He’s probably playing unless for some reason he wakes up with a headache or something.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Seriously, how do they go from brown will play yesterday to game time decision today

He missed practice today with an illness.

 

[MikeS24]

Seriously, we see Connor leave yesterday. Imagine there is a bug going around ffs.

That would be so Oilers

 

[MikeS24]

He missed practice today with an illness.

And Connor left early yesterday. Scary thought if a bug has gone around our room.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

This has me scared. From daily faceoff

Connor Brown (illness) missed practice on Tuesday and is a game-time decision for Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Final.

Never what's of any illness until now. Hope it's not some bug (unless it's his concussion). Funny Knob said he's ready to go

Knoblauch sounded stuffed up too.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Man the Oilers get sick like kids in day care.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Ehh it wasn’t good I don’t think he meant to humiliate him there. He was probably in the black a bit.

What do you mean beyond just hits? LA was relentless after McDrai in dirty plays if that’s what you mean. Vegas hurt our goalie.

Vegas are dirty only. They don't answer the bell. Once the Oilers started to remind them of that they went down like a swatted puppy. I felt the Oilers have intimidated the teams we've faced, particularly Vegas. Marchment is the only player that brought pretty consistent malevolence and provocation. Nobody in LA or Vegas did that. Our opponents probably needed more people in lineups that would stand up.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Seriously, how do they go from brown will play yesterday to game time decision today

Somebody explain the predictability of illness. Oh, I have a cold or flu, "sorry work that I didn't plan and schedule this illness. "

I'd be more worried that yet another illness is floating around the club. Hockey teams are deplorable infectors. Spitting over everything, sharing water bottles, etc.

 

[K1984]

Who even gets sick in June? Of course this happens to us.

Reminds me of the Conference Finals in '06 when a random May illness went through the team in the Conference Finals.

 

[bone]

But clearly Deboer lost it, and as I've stated its a rare instance of him doing so. He was livid, angry, and so comportment, rationale, it isn't part of sheer anger. Deboer blew a gasket, and people often lose jobs when that occurs and sometimes, if not a conscious process, its kind of what one wants or expects to happen anyway. Sometimes people get fired when they are just done with a situation. In Dallas that situation is a team that forgets how to score goals every playoffs at some point. Where the entire team just stops digging down for goals. Frankly Ott has been shit against us both series. The worst goalie against us in either playoffs. Which is odd because he's highly paid and highly touted.

Otter is a weird case. I started looking at his stat breakdowns by team and naturally we had the best numbers against him. But then I notice how Vegas was in weird spot in the middle and digging deeper it appears he just hits a wall in the third round similar to the rest of his teammates. Vegas also lit him up in the Conference Finals as he was .881 and 3.64, but facing them in the first tround he was .925 and 1.95. That said, Seattle also lit him up in the 2nd round a couple years ago.

 

[Drivesaitl]

“We just can’t beat mcdavid”

That’s their body language.

I feel sorry for the coach. It wasn’t the goalie but he can’t bench skaters against a team like the oilers.

The Dallas forwards, all of them, were horrible in the series. I don't even recuse Robertson who was awful in the early games. none of them showed. People expected their D to be the weak point but it was their forward lineup who didn't bring it. None of their star players got going and in that respect it was just like the Knights series.

Rants had zero goals. Hintz didn't get one till last game. Johnson was horrible, got nothing. Dallas forwards were a frustrated group that looked like they couldn't finish in an empty net and then got into cheating forward for goals that they weren't getting. Dallas gave up all these oddman breaks because their forward group were disengaged, not scoring, and frankly giving up on game plan. I'd be livid too as a coach.

No coach would survive a 11M buck forward being mostly invisible in the series. of of the whole team only scoring 11 goals in the series and always giving up first goals. Untenable.

 

[Bumblebee Man]

Seriously, how do they go from brown will play yesterday to game time decision today

Illness..