Pre-Game Talk: Oil vs Rat - The Sequel

[NeverForget06]

Connor needs five points in this series to pass Ovechkin on the all time playoff scoring list - insane (also he is only 9 points back of Marchand)

 

[MikeS24]

Obstruction and interference has won more cups than any individual team. Call the damn stuff. Vegas and LA tried that shit and we womped them anyway. They need to call Florida on it period.

That is what I am afraid of. When I watched the games against TO, they called FLA for a lot. TO would get 5PP's in a game

For us, it doesn't mater who we play, calls just are made wayyy less

 

[NeverForget06]

I think Podz will be great in this series. I know it's winger versus centre but man having Podz going into the corners this year versus Mcleod last year is night and day. I think he is more effective than Foegele in a lot of ways as well. He will be important

 

[Dieseloil]

That is what I am afraid of. When I watched the games against TO, they called FLA for a lot. TO would get 5PP's in a game

For us, it doesn't mater who we play, calls just are made wayyy less

Yes, we get weak borderline calls against. Florida clutches, grabs and their fans think it’s finishing the check or something. Never mind the dirty stick work.

 

[NeverForget06]

Connor needs five points in this series to pass Ovechkin on the all time playoff scoring list - insane (also he is only 9 points back of Marchand

 

[McDoused]

I think Podz will be great in this series. I know it's winger versus centre but man having Podz going into the corners this year versus Mcleod last year is night and day. I think he is more effective than Foegele in a lot of ways as well. He will be important

Lets take a quick look at playoff points from our depth guys last year:

Foegele 8
Holloway 7
McLeod 4
Broberg 3
=22 points

Kane 11
Podkolzin 6
Walman 6
Arvidsson 5
= 28 points

Our depth players this playoffs have already outperformed our depth players last year.

 

[Drivesaitl]

I've had similar arguments with a friend of mine from England. The concept of playoffs utterly baffles him, just like the concept of just handing the Cup to first place team at the end of the year baffles us.

I don't know how you would even derive enjoyment from their system especially if you're really good. "This has been telegraphed since about January and has rendered almost every game for half of the season in the whole league irrelevant, but now that April is over you're STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!"

I can feel my buzz dying just thinking about it.

Yet those Football leagues are the hottest entities of any sport, any continent, and are everywhere.

The most competed sport, Football, with the most premier players of any sport and that play seasons that are for all the marbles. Picture it as the season there being the season and playoffs combined. Every game important, every game crucial.

As good as NHL SC playoffs are the seasons are a sham, and the Oilers and Panthers demonstrating once again why they are. But how this slices down for the fan is we end up watching 82 game seasons that are window dressing and to get these 16 games played at a higher level. Maybe 22 games before its done.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Lets take a quick look at playoff points from our depth guys last year:

Foegele 8
Holloway 7
McLeod 4
Broberg 3
=22 points

Kane 11
Podkolzin 6
Walman 6
Arvidsson 5
= 28 points

Our depth players this playoffs have already outperformed our depth players last year.

Kane isn't some depth player. He's a topsix player on almost all teams in the league. he's a star player on almost all teams in the league. He'd be the best player on several teams in the league.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Robertson on the block, DeBoer firing probably.

When the Oilers decide to kill a franchise era in the playoffs they don’t half ass it lol.

poor babies. "Oh I wasn't treated well enough, oh words, he hurt me, he harmed me". If this was our club we'd be telling our players to man up a little. Instead of being weasels crying to management. You won't win anything ever with that kind of disposition.

Looks like Stars are compounding mistakes. lol that they feel like they can't pay Robertson but they paid Rantanen. Who did sweet f*** all in the conference final. Who completely disappeared once the competition got toughest. Say what you want but Deboer showed more compete in the elimination game than his team, except for Robertson, did. Remove those two from the equation and the elimination game is probably a 6-0 cakewalk.

 

[McDoused]

Kane isn't some depth player. He's a topsix player on almost all teams in the league. he's a star player on almost all teams in the league. He'd be the best player on several teams in the league.

McLeod, Foegele and Holloway all played top 6 last year in the playoffs at some point.

And we didn't have a healthy Kane last year but this year we do. I think we can both agree that Edmonton has more depth scoring than last year.

My only concern is trying to replace Hyman.

 

[Drivesaitl]

McLeod, Foegele and Holloway all played top 6 last year in the playoffs at some point.

And we didn't have a healthy Kane last year but this year we do. I think we can both agree that Edmonton has more depth scoring than last year.

My only concern is trying to replace Hyman.

A rested Perry and a rested Kane help us with some of that scoring. We'll see how it plays out. It makes sense that our depth scoring is higher this year. Our depth is composed of all seasoned vets who've been around the dance before. Last year our depth was futures players. For the one shot this is what they went with but remembering this is pretty much a oneshot parlay with this lineup. I wouldn't have gone this way but it looks like its our best one shot at this point.

 

[Cloned]

poor babies. "Oh I wasn't treated well enough, oh words, he hurt me, he harmed me". If this was our club we'd be telling our players to man up a little. Instead of being weasels crying to management. You won't win anything ever with that kind of disposition.

Looks like Stars are compounding mistakes. lol that they feel like they can't pay Robertson but they paid Rantanen. Who did sweet f*** all in the conference final. Who completely disappeared once the competition got toughest. Say what you want but Deboer showed more compete in the elimination game than his team, except for Robertson, did. Remove those two from the equation and the elimination game is probably a 6-0 cakewalk.

I do think DeBoer screwed up with Oettinger. Like there were probably better ways to handle that.

 

[Sniper99]

This is going to be hard without Hyman, but we can either fold or take this team out in 5 or less.

If and hopefully they win, I hope Hyman is out there in his gear to raise the cup and not in suit.

 

[Dirk Dangler]

It is going to be Skinner that sits, and I don't agree with it, but I understand it. Florida is a very physical team as we all know, and Skinner is not a physical player as we all know. Frederic doesn't do much, but he does hit fairly often (4th in hits/60 on the team in the playoffs), and he is big and has an overall edge to his game (won't get rag dolled, is intimidating, etc etc). The thought process is that we have enough offensive weapons to score, and we need to match Florida physically, which I understand, but again, I disagree with.

I think we already have enough team toughness without Frederic, and with Hyman being out, our secondary scoring has taken a big hit. Our star players are not guys that need protection either, as they aren't small players. Skinner brings "one shot scoring" to the team, that nobody outside of McDrai, Kane and RNH has. I would keep Skinner in and sit Frederic, but I would be absolutely shocked if that happens when Brown comes back.

We do have a tough team. But it was really nice in the VGK’s series, when Frederic was able to stand up to Hague. Nurse and Kane could do it. But it’s better to have them on the ice.

 

[Morpheus]

 

[Cloned]

So Klingberg is surprisingly vocal on the bench.

 

[Sheikyerbouti]

Top class break down on this series by a video coach. If you like Curlock, you will love this


Oilers leading the playoffs at getting inside (inner slot chances) shows how different the team is this year.

 

[Peacefool]

We do have a tough team. But it was really nice in the VGK’s series, when Frederic was able to stand up to Hague. Nurse and Kane could do it. But it’s better to have them on the ice.

I watched that game with VGK when there was a massacre on the ice in the first period, never thought your team is pretty tough . It will help you against Panthers. Just tell ur guys to watch for their heads and protect goalie at all cost, cuz Fla are dirty in a worst way possible dirty team.

 

[Austerlitz]

The difference in Bennett from then vs now. If you told me one of those four was going to be suspended for PED use, I'm not sure Ekblad would be my first guess.

 

[1981 Oilers]

Robertson on the block, DeBoer firing probably.

When the Oilers decide to kill a franchise era in the playoffs they don’t half ass it lol.

Killed Calgary
Killed Vancouver
Killed Dallas
Edmonton is Natural Born Killers

 

[KCC]

Not that anyone cares but thought this was really interesting. CBC did a 20 minute report back in the 80s on every game and series of the 84 run, their second straight trip to the finals (against the isles) and first eventual cup. mirrors this year’s team with how the players were acting and how locked in they were the second time around. They looked like they just weren’t going to be denied. Feels that way with this team as well.

 

[SaltNPeca]

Currently in a spat with a friend of mine over that.

He called me a complete and utter moron for falling for the NHL's propaganda that the playoffs are different from the regular season. Said we're all fools for watching 82 meaningless games. Said it should be like soccer, 2 matches against each team whomever wins the league wins the cup.

Not understanding or appreciating the Stanley Cup Playoffs is a shame. Ultimate team sport tournament, perfectly suited for hockey, and commonly known as the hardest trophy in Pro Sports to win. Teams have to win 4 Best-Of-7's with no Penalty shootouts.

"winning the league" in top flight football is good, but not the most prestigious. Why you saw that wildness in Paris recently was not because PSG won their league (Ligue 1). They won their League, UEFA Champions League, AND the French Cup (Coupe de France)

In my hockey league over here we have relegation/promotion, and the top 1st Division teams compete in a playoffs. Also throughout the season all 3 divisions compete in single-elimination Cup games. This season one team won it all (Doppelmeister). Very cool concept imo.

 

[McBeastMode]

The biggest thing for me is how little their fans care. Their attendance was as bad as you could get for years, and their cup parade was a farce. It sucks seeing teams with passionate fans (not just us) suffer while they succeed

That's what pissed me off last year...

Florida would remember winning the cup for about a week...
Oilers fans would remember it for generations...

 

[94 Oil Drops]

Killed Calgary
Killed Vancouver
Killed Dallas
Edmonton is Natural Born Killers

Little wonder everyone hates us.

 

[McBigYak]

Healthy McDavid and Draisaitl going into a series with a banged up Tkachuk and Reinhart. Obviously Hyman tough to replace, but he wasn't necessarily scoring all that much (pointless in 4 of last 5 games played) and his physicality can be replaced by numerous players.

If Stu plays well, don't think the Oilers lose this. In fact I think if he plays well the Oilers take it in 5 or 6.