GDT: Oh thank heaven for the 7-11. Oilers v Preds. 7 PM SNW.

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

With Arvidsson out it sounds like the Oilers will go with the vaunted 7-11, that of the glory days of Jay W.

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Over under on Draisaitl points tonight on the 1000 points night for McJesus?

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Nashville will be looking for revenge after we took 2 in their building already.

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Oilers need a win to keep positive momentum forward. In Picard we trust.

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Projected Lines

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Podkolzin-Draisaitl
Janmark-Henrique-Brown
Skinner-Ryan-Perry

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Dermott
Kulak-Emberson
Stecher

Pickard

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Projected Lines

Forsberg-O’Reilly-Stamkos
Marchessault-Sissons-Nyquist
Evangelista-Parssinen-Tomasino
Smith-McCarron-L’Hereuax

Skjei-Josi
Lauzon-Carrier
Del Gaizo-Schenn

Saros

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GD Music - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son - Iron Maiden



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Fearless Prediction

Oilers - 6
Preds - 2

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We go live at 6!

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[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Shame this is our last game against them this year.

 

[Mr Kot]

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Shame this is our last game against them this year.

We need the points!!

 

[popo]

Dressing a 7th defenseman just because we don't carry a 13th forward is pointless.
Would rather waive Dermott and bring up Philip in this situation if cap space is the issue. Dermott isn't getting claimed and isn't helping us win dressing as a 7th dman.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Why is Ryan still with the big team? Knoblauch needs to get it through his head that he's washed.

 

[Drivesaitl]

The Arvid injuries start. Day to day but looks like Kenny already getting killed out there. Wonder who Drai gets today other than goal less Joe Podkolzin. Leading producer, goal scorer on the team has been with the lowest production forwards on the team. Doesn't make sense but doesn't make cents.

 

[bone]

Both goalies have faced similar QOC this season. Also using Pickards career starts involves a lions share of games where he wasn't even an Oiler so apples/oranges comparison.

Another thing for both goalies is our schedule start has been easy. Lionshare of non playoff clubs. More challenging segments of schedule are up ahead.

Having Pickard around is the reason we were able to rebound against Vancouver.

I don't know we have enough sample here to diagnose that Pickard cannot play against harder opposition.

Did you even read my post before posting the bolded part? That's an outright fabrication and the stats I posted for their opposition clearly tells a different story.

I grant there isn't a huge sample size of games for Pickard vs. playoff calibre teams, but the ones he has played in he's either lost or didn't impress at all with the one exception being the Vancouver surprise and the league is full of one game wonders in history where a guy played above expectations to get a team a crucial win on playoff run. And those two games weren't even necesarily spectacular, they were just so surprising because they were actually good after three stinkers in a row by Skinner.

I'm not convinced Skinner is the answer for who can win a cup for this team even though he helped them get close with decent hockey in the final two rounds last year.

However, I know Pickard is not that answer.

 

[KCC]

The Arvid injuries start. Day to day but looks like Kenny already getting killed out there. Wonder who Drai gets today other than goal less Joe Podkolzin. Leading producer, goal scorer on the team has been with the lowest production forwards on the team. Doesn't make sense but doesn't make cents.

He plays a hard game. Assuming he's healthy, he'll be valuable come playoff time.

 

[Oilers88]

Forget McDavid. Draisaitl only needs 130 points to get to 1,000, and we're playing the Preds. I say both get there tonight.

 

[VeteranPresence]

I understand why Skinner is on the fourth line, but we probably see that change pretty quickly into the game as Nashville will likely want to get up for this one. Wouldn't mind trying:

Skinner-McD-Hyman
Podz-RNH-Drai
Janmark-Henrique-Brown
Ryan-Perry

 

[Drivesaitl]

Did you even read my post before posting the bolded part? That's an outright fabrication and the stats I posted for their opposition clearly tells a different story.

I grant there isn't a huge sample size of games for Pickard vs. playoff calibre teams, but the ones he has played in he's either lost or didn't impress at all with the one exception being the Vancouver surprise and the league is full of one game wonders in history where a guy played above expectations to get a team a crucial win on playoff run. And those two games weren't even necesarily spectacular, they were just so surprising because they were actually good after three stinkers in a row by Skinner.

I'm not convinced Skinner is the answer for who can win a cup for this team even though he helped them get close with decent hockey in the final two rounds last year.

However, I know Pickard is not that answer.

Confused by your response. I was alleging that both goalies have faced lower than average opposition because the schedule has been mostly weak thus far. Not sure what was a fabrication.

I maintained it was unfair to post up Pickards career record when the lionshare of those games were not as an OIler. How is that unreasonable to point out?

I'm not saying either goalie is the answer but in my view it stands to reason being that both are similar quality (I think Pickard is a bit better) that the games should be more evenly split. The org is always going to favor Skinner so I'd like to see at least a 30-52 split and not a 60-22 which we seem to be gearing to. Team seems to think playing Skinner much more will get him sharp. I don't think that is correct, I think they are tempted into that looking at the 16 game streak last season which fair to say was due to other factors. Namely the team outright dominating opponents.

 

[Drivesaitl]

He plays a hard game. Assuming he's healthy, he'll be valuable come playoff time.

Arvid has never put up numbers in playoffs. he seldom ever scores in playoffs and we're getting the old version. Argument can be made that he'll get a few assists but not much for scoring. he might not even be in the lineup come playoff time.

 

[LTIR]

Ain't nothing wrong with 7- 11

 

[bone]

Confused by your response. I was alleging that both goalies have faced lower than average opposition because the schedule has been mostly weak thus far. Not sure what was a fabrication.

I maintained it was unfair to post up Pickards career record when the lionshare of those games were not as an OIler. How is that unreasonable to point out?

I'm not saying either goalie is the answer but in my view it stands to reason being that both are similar quality (I think Pickard is a bit better) that the games should be more evenly split. The org is always going to favor Skinner so I'd like to see at least a 30-52 split and not a 60-22 which we seem to be gearing to. Team seems to think playing Skinner much more will get him sharp. I don't think that is correct, I think they are tempted into that looking at the 16 game streak last season which fair to say was due to other factors. Namely the team outright dominating opponents.

At no point in my post (which is part of the previous thread) was I talking about career stats. I was pointing out the records of their opposition this year including the goals scored by those teams. These clearly show Skinnner has had tougher competition this year and I was doing so to counter arguments that Pickard is a better choice because of current year statistics.

I was pointing to the records of the teams they faced this year because every single one of Pickards starts but one was vs the bottom 5 (by virtue of 3 teams being tied for 26th-28th) whereas only one of Skinner's were vs. the bottom 5. So the current year stats for the two should be taken with a grain of salt because of that.

While it's true Skinner hasn't had a lot of games vs. elite teams this year (because Edmonton hasn't played alot of the top 10), his starts have been vs. teams with notably better records and scoring this year (by a full half goal per game on average).

Going back to splits, after tonight the team is on pace for 53-29 starts which is exactly what you're asking for so I was also suggesting that I think Knoblach has done a reasonable job within your very own expectations at splitting the starts particularly when the temptation to run with someone with a somewhat light schedule in terms of rest time and a team that is underachieving and as a result he hasn't played Skinner more than 3 in a row at any point yet.

Also of note, the only two times he played Skinner three in a row, those 3 games were spread out over 7 days. Knoblach is nailing the split you'd like to see between a starter and backup. Unfortunately he just doesn't have a great starter than the backup isn't a rockstar either.

 

[BertMcDrai]

Forget McDavid. Draisaitl only needs 130 points to get to 1,000, and we're playing the Preds. I say both get there tonight.

Came here to say the same

Hopefully his insane run continues ;-)

Should place some bets on a Drai hattrick tonight.

 

[bucks_oil]

Arvid has never put up numbers in playoffs. he seldom ever scores in playoffs and we're getting the old version. Argument can be made that he'll get a few assists but not much for scoring. he might not even be in the lineup come playoff time.

Arvidsson had 10 points in 11 games vs us during his last two playoffs.

Overall he's scored 37 points in 72 playoff games. For a ~50 point winger, that's not much of a fall off.

 

[LTIR]

Why is Ryan still with the big team? Knoblauch needs to get it through his head that he's washed.

Because he is the only right hand shot C to take faceoffs and because he has the best faveoffs win % on the team.
why is Henrique on the team?

Forget McDavid. Draisaitl only needs 130 points to get to 1,000, and we're playing the Preds. I say both get there tonight.

Could Draisaitl be the 100th ever to get there? Not sure how many are closer than him to get there after McDavid

 

[Drivesaitl]

At no point in my post (which is part of the previous thread) was I talking about career stats. I was pointing out the records of their opposition this year including the goals scored by those teams. These clearly show Skinnner has had tougher competition this year and I was doing so to counter arguments that Pickard is a better choice because of current year statistics.

I was pointing to the records of the teams they faced this year because every single one of Pickards starts but one was vs the bottom 5 (by virtue of 3 teams being tied for 26th-28th) whereas only one of Skinner's were vs. the bottom 5. So the current year stats for the two should be taken with a grain of salt because of that.

While it's true Skinner hasn't had a lot of games vs. elite teams this year (because Edmonton hasn't played alot of the top 10), his starts have been vs. teams with notably better records and scoring this year (by a full half goal per game on average).

Going back to splits, after tonight the team is on pace for 53-29 starts which is exactly what you're asking for so I was also suggesting that I think Knoblach has done a reasonable job within your very own expectations at splitting the starts particularly when the temptation to run with someone with a somewhat light schedule in terms of rest time and a team that is underachieving and as a result he hasn't played Skinner more than 3 in a row at any point yet.

This is from your first reply which is what I had responded to.

"The opposition Pickard has faced has a collective record of 28-31-6 and averages about 2.75 goals for per game and only one team out of the 6 starts is amongst the current top 25 teams in in the league, and frankly he looked terrible in that games along with the team's offense."

I was confused by what you meant by that. Sorry about the confusion. For some reason I was reading that as career starts. Misread. Nevermind.

 

[TheNumber4]

Anyone know the play Arvie got injured on? Snow pants related?

 

[Drivesaitl]

Arvidsson had 10 points in 11 games vs us during his last two playoffs.

Overall he's scored 37 points in 72 playoff games. For a ~50 point winger, that's not much of a fall off.

Goals are more important than assists. Arvid constantly botches chances and most of his career has a low shooting %. He's far off the player that has scored playoff goals and only has 1 post season goal in the last 5yrs. The guy can make some plays and bag some assists. Didn't say different. Case in point one game this year he has 3 of his assists. One was a pass back to the point, one was merely getting an assist for a faceoff win (back to point for a goal) and the other was feeding a Monster goal by DRai from NZ. 3 assists. Its the illusion though of being instrumental in production. Arvid should be getting a lot more ozone production than he is. I think that game has really struggled. He has 1G here thus far off sustained Ozone play. Its kinda weird because he's a cycle player.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Because he is the only right hand shot C to take faceoffs and because he has the best faveoffs win % on the team.

He takes single-digit faceoffs a game most nights in his less than ten minutes of ice time. His faceoffs against the Isles for example were mostly against Cizikas and MacLean, their 3rd and 4th Cs. He's not being used to take key draws in the defensive zone against top lines or anything like that.

 

[Louis Cypher]

Ain't nothing wrong with 7- 11

7-11's in Japan are amazing. Great selection of booze for cheap. Beers are ~$2.50/ can. I bought a mini mickey of Johnny Black for $10. Food is good too.

 

[McBeastMode]

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[VainGretzky]

Why is Ryan still with the big team? Knoblauch needs to get it through his head that he's washed.

Because management is blind he plays on the perimeter and loses every board battle, he is useless on the pk now and even more useless on offense, the one player who would 100% thank god when off the roster is Corey Perry