People keep talking about Alfredsson like it was a big loss. Sure, for his legacy and leadership/experience, it was a big loss
but the dude is 42 y/o. Might not be healthy enough to play in the NHL this season. Can we just move on lol?
Also, concerning Spezza, reading the number of heavy critics around here when he was in his 20's making 4.5 to 7.0 per year, what would it have been in his 30's making most likely 8.0 per?
We had 2 choices regarding Spezza. Extend him to a gigantic contract or trade him. He might have helped up dodged another bullet long-term by wanting a change of scenery.
Personally, I have been a big Alfie/Spezza fan but I'm not even mad to finally see a new era starting over. It's time for new figures to shine. It's a great thing to move on in life.
Come on man, it's not that far off... Not enough to warrant to get into such a puckersnatch.
I pulled the comparison out of my butt without any research, not bad if you ask me. You base almost all of your assumptions on HF rankings and polls (and also insulted the very HF posters who vote in those polls). Just because you Hockey News bio'd, checked a few hockey's future ratings, made a bunch of annoying poll threads and maybe looked at a youtube or two since the trade went down doesn't make you an expert.
I did not insult anyone. I actually put more stock in fans voting their own prospect pools than the (1 blogger) HF Rankings and grades. Stupid HF is more the overall perceptions and misconceptions going around HF about certain things. Can't explain everything in 1 post. You have 4 posts, with time you'll make your own conclusions.
I have no idea what a puckersnatch is and I won't bother. As you said, you pulled the comparison out of your butt and that's exactly what it is worth.
An important thing I base myself on, outside of everything else you mentioned, is pure hockey ability. And in that aspect :
Chiasson + Guptill + Paul >>>>>>>>>>>>> Greening + Robinson + Dziurzynski
You really think it's not far off? In that case, why are we even discussing hockey if there's no need to be a bit more accurate?
Crosby = Toews (it's not that far off), then Toews = Duchene (not that far off), then Duchene = Turris (not that far off).
Conclusion, I could say that Turris is not that far off Crosby, and it wouldn't be worth it to get into such a puckersnatch if I proclaim in on the main boards.
I'm not saying I'm an expert (actually very far compared to what many HFBoarders think they are) but I do try and gather info, viewings, observations, quotes, etc to have a better idea of the NHL players and prospects. I also have a vast playing and viewing hockey experience which give me a little bit of ability for the eye test.
So, I'm really sorry if I took some time to discuss hockey with you.
And my question remains, what do you prefer :
a) Spezza plays one more year in Ottawa in a non-contending season
or
b) We get 1 present and 3 future assets AND the budget space to sign David Legwand to a sweetheart 2 years deal
I said comparitive value, not upside or play style. What edge Guptill has in skill is negated by Buddy's physical traits. Also, Guptill has well known attitude issues, which I think is probably the biggest negative you can have when you are a fringe NHL'er. I think they both may get a cup of coffee in the big leagues, but never make it so its a wash.
Ya and that's the biggest reason why he is not viewed as a top prospect and that we have been able to get him in that deal. If that changes (Luke Richardson will be a big factor), we might have a gem in our hands. Buddy might get a cup of coffee as a 4th line energy guy, I'm not that high on him.
Dizzy vs Paul - they actually are pretty similar. Trade a little bit of defense for a little bit of physicality, and you got a potential 4th liner at best. Not a bad thing as those players are needed, but both don't have much value.
Yeah, they're very similar, but DD is also 5,5 years older.
Nick Paul just turned 19 y/o (can't even play in the AHL) and has all the signs of a late bloomer. The fact that they really wanted him included in the deal is another good sign. At this point, we have no idea what this guy can become, but a very good 2nd/3rd line tweener with a great package of size/skill may not be out of the equation. DD might never play another NHL game. Great he his cup of coffee already.
Pretty weak comparisons IMO, but we all have our opinions it's ok. I'm curious to review this in 4-5 years.