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He's going to go in the 2nd round, if not the late 1st. He's staying in Oshawa for one more year, deferred his BU admission. He looked pretty good with the Gens vs. London in the playoffs. A project for sure, but maybe a home run. I love that his mom owns 5 rinks, and bought the Brantford team so he would have a spot.

I have never heard of this guy. Is this post sarcastic or serious? (seriously asking)
 
I have never heard of this guy. Is this post sarcastic or serious? (seriously asking)
Serious. I hadn't heard of him until I saw an article about draft eligibles in the CHL final series. TSN showed all the games from all three series. Wang looked good, if raw, playing for Oshawa against London. The guy is massive but extremely fluid and coordinated in his skating. If Bobby Mac thinks he's going in the late first round, you know teams are considering it.

In my incomplete viewing of a handful of games Wang is: fast and mobile, esp. for a guy 6'6". He's physical and has no problem pasting guys to the wall or scrumming. He carries the puck up ice really quickly through the neutral zone and got zone entries untouched.

No vested interest in him, but if he can catch up on his lack of experience, he could be something. Might never pan out, but he apparently has all the ice time, coaching and training that he wants.

Here's Bob McKenzie's write up on Simon Wang at mid-season:

Matthew Schaefer a unanimous No. 1 in Bob McKenzie's Mid-season NHL Draft Ranking | TSN

- One of the most intriguing prospects in this year’s draft is Oshawa General 6-foot-5 defenceman Simon Wang.​
He checks in at No. 31, with one scout ranking him as high as No. 18 and one not ranking him at all in the top 64.
Wang is Chinese, born in Beijing in 2007 and raised there until he left as a teenager in 2020 to pursue his dream of playing hockey in the NHL.​
Wang’s father is an official in the Chinese government. His mother, Willa, is heavily involved in sport and, in fact, owned and operated five hockey arenas in China. That’s where Simon, or Haoxi (pronounced How-she) as he’s known at home, first learned to skate and train. There were tournaments that he played in there but he didn’t really play any organized hockey, as such, until he arrived in Canada for his major bantam (U-15) season.
He initially lived in residence at St. Andrew’s College in Aurora, Ont. Willa has since come to Canada to be with him and has been instrumental in Simon’s hockey development and path.​
Simon’s goal was to go to school and play NCAA hockey and he got a commitment from Boston University. He was also drafted by the OHL Generals in the fifth round of the 2023 OHL draft. Simon wanted to go to BU because his older brother received a graduate degree from Boston University.​
After playing his minor midget (U-16) and OHL draft year season for the North York Rangers of the GTHL, Simon was deciding where to play in the intervening two or three years before attending BU.​
That was solved when his mother purchased the Brantford 99ers Ontario Junior Hockey League franchise and he played there last season. Willa moved the franchise from Brantford to King, Ont., in 2024, and Simon started this season with the OJHL’s King Rebellion.​
When the NCAA eligibility rules changed this season to allow college players to play major junior hockey, Simon joined the OHL Generals in January and now scouts are trying to get a handle on a 6-foot-5 defenceman who is a terrific skater but is a relative neophyte compared to his peers.​
Wang could play at BU next season or could choose to stay another year in Oshawa. It’s TBD. [Edit: he's decided to defer BU and stay in Oshawa].​
Not surprisingly, the scouting opinions on him are all over the map.​
As a Chinese born and bred athlete, if Simon is to make it to the NHL it’s most certainly going to create a seismic event back in China, where some local media have taken to showing Oshawa General highlights and reporting news stories on Simon’s exploits.​
In any case, it will be fascinating to see it all play out.​
 
CHL Dmen who get under 0.20 non-PP P/GP just dont become NHLers really.

Wang had under 0.10 overall P/GP!

Between 2005-2015?

124 such Dmen taken. 36% of all drafted CHL Dmen.

14/124 became NHLers. 11%.
4/124 became top 4 Dmen... 3%. Muzzin, Myers, Scandella, Edmundon.
thank you for providing statistics to back up my vibes based claims
 
Like Wang is an OJHL player... 0.44 ppg in the ojhl where he twice as big and fast as other OJHL players... He should be dominating that league like it's nothing.

EDIT: Him having access to all of these resources and there are a lot of people very interested in making him an NHL player (for Chinese interests) definitely makes him a guarantee to be drafted... but he is not worth drafting where there are far more projectable players available in the top 50. If it's the 4th+ round? Where generally the draft becomes a crapshoot? Yea I can see the EV argument. Someone will take him super early though... Could be the Flyers thinking theyre gonna waste one of their many draft picks. Maybe Comcast sees Chinese player and thinks $$$.

Odds to become a serious career NHLer? (Playing more than 3 full seasons of NHL hockey?) it's not really projectable, this situation hasn't happened before. What we *can* project? Low odds.

EDIT2: Thinking about it, Chinese interests + the interest of the NHL org that drafts him they will give him the longest leash possible, so very well could see him play in the NHL at age 25-27 after grueling OHL > NCAA > ECHL/AHL > NHL grind where they wait as long as possible and hope that he can learn how to play hockey better than most players who were DOMINATING high level junior hockey leagues since they were at least 12 years old. He wasn't even amazing in U16 GTHL league... Just food for thought and to keep expectations reasonable here.
 
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Serious. I hadn't heard of him until I saw an article about draft eligibles in the CHL final series. TSN showed all the games from all three series. Wang looked good, if raw, playing for Oshawa against London. The guy is massive but extremely fluid and coordinated in his skating. If Bobby Mac thinks he's going in the late first round, you know teams are considering it.

In my incomplete viewing of a handful of games Wang is: fast and mobile, esp. for a guy 6'6". He's physical and has no problem pasting guys to the wall or scrumming. He carries the puck up ice really quickly through the neutral zone and got zone entries untouched.

No vested interest in him, but if he can catch up on his lack of experience, he could be something. Might never pan out, but he apparently has all the ice time, coaching and training that he wants.

Here's Bob McKenzie's write up on Simon Wang at mid-season:

Matthew Schaefer a unanimous No. 1 in Bob McKenzie's Mid-season NHL Draft Ranking | TSN

- One of the most intriguing prospects in this year’s draft is Oshawa General 6-foot-5 defenceman Simon Wang.​
He checks in at No. 31, with one scout ranking him as high as No. 18 and one not ranking him at all in the top 64.
Wang is Chinese, born in Beijing in 2007 and raised there until he left as a teenager in 2020 to pursue his dream of playing hockey in the NHL.​
Wang’s father is an official in the Chinese government. His mother, Willa, is heavily involved in sport and, in fact, owned and operated five hockey arenas in China. That’s where Simon, or Haoxi (pronounced How-she) as he’s known at home, first learned to skate and train. There were tournaments that he played in there but he didn’t really play any organized hockey, as such, until he arrived in Canada for his major bantam (U-15) season.
He initially lived in residence at St. Andrew’s College in Aurora, Ont. Willa has since come to Canada to be with him and has been instrumental in Simon’s hockey development and path.​
Simon’s goal was to go to school and play NCAA hockey and he got a commitment from Boston University. He was also drafted by the OHL Generals in the fifth round of the 2023 OHL draft. Simon wanted to go to BU because his older brother received a graduate degree from Boston University.​
After playing his minor midget (U-16) and OHL draft year season for the North York Rangers of the GTHL, Simon was deciding where to play in the intervening two or three years before attending BU.​
That was solved when his mother purchased the Brantford 99ers Ontario Junior Hockey League franchise and he played there last season. Willa moved the franchise from Brantford to King, Ont., in 2024, and Simon started this season with the OJHL’s King Rebellion.​
When the NCAA eligibility rules changed this season to allow college players to play major junior hockey, Simon joined the OHL Generals in January and now scouts are trying to get a handle on a 6-foot-5 defenceman who is a terrific skater but is a relative neophyte compared to his peers.​
Wang could play at BU next season or could choose to stay another year in Oshawa. It’s TBD. [Edit: he's decided to defer BU and stay in Oshawa].​
Not surprisingly, the scouting opinions on him are all over the map.​
As a Chinese born and bred athlete, if Simon is to make it to the NHL it’s most certainly going to create a seismic event back in China, where some local media have taken to showing Oshawa General highlights and reporting news stories on Simon’s exploits.​
In any case, it will be fascinating to see it all play out.​
Nice. I love a good story like this.
 
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Like Wang is an OJHL player... 0.44 ppg in the ojhl where he twice as big and fast as other OJHL players... He should be dominating that league like it's nothing.

EDIT: Him having access to all of these resources and there are a lot of people very interested in making him an NHL player (for Chinese interests) definitely makes him a guarantee to be drafted... but he is not worth drafting where there are far more projectable players available in the top 50. If it's the 4th+ round? Where generally the draft becomes a crapshoot? Yea I can see the EV argument. Someone will take him super early though... Could be the Flyers thinking theyre gonna waste one of their many draft picks. Maybe Comcast sees Chinese player and thinks $$$.

Odds to become a serious career NHLer? (Playing more than 3 full seasons of NHL hockey?) it's not really projectable, this situation hasn't happened before. What we *can* project? Low odds.

EDIT2: Thinking about it, Chinese interests + the interest of the NHL org that drafts him they will give him the longest leash possible, so very well could see him play in the NHL at age 25-27 after grueling OHL > NCAA > ECHL/AHL > NHL grind where they wait as long as possible and hope that he can learn how to play hockey better than most players who were DOMINATING high level junior hockey leagues since they were at least 12 years old. He wasn't even amazing in U16 GTHL league... Just food for thought and to keep expectations reasonable here.
It is pretty impressive that, in only his 4th year of organized hockey, he was able to hold down a starting role for Oshawa, playing ahead of their Czech import on a team that loaded up for a potential MemCup run. He held his own in the OHL playoffs after less than half a season in Major Jr. He's had a pretty steep learning curve, we'll see if he can turn his infrastructure advantages into a pro career. He'll have a year in the OHL then whatever he needs at BU to try and catch up the experiential gap. Someone will draft him, we'll see how high, but it'll be interesting to follow his story.
 
It is pretty impressive that, in only his 4th year of organized hockey, he was able to hold down a starting role for Oshawa, playing ahead of their Czech import on a team that loaded up for a potential MemCup run. He held his own in the OHL playoffs after less than half a season in Major Jr. He's had a pretty steep learning curve, we'll see if he can turn his infrastructure advantages into a pro career. He'll have a year in the OHL then whatever he needs at BU to try and catch up the experiential gap. Someone will draft him, we'll see how high, but it'll be interesting to follow his story.
The scouts also noted that he improved steadily over the course of the year which is encouraging given his limited amount of organized hockey.
 
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Im ambivalent on Wang. I wouldn’t want to use a 1st on him but I’d be fine with a 2nd. The average 2nd rounder will probably amount to a bottom of the lineup role if they even make the NHL. With 4 2nds it’s worth taking a risk with 1 or 2 of them
 
how is @Appleyard not employed on a NHL team is beyond me..

dude is wayyyy more qualified then the stooges we have

Maybe it happens. I have my fingers crossed aha.

2 years ago it would have been a pipe dream...

now at least there are guys employed by NHL teams who value my opinions, know who I am, share a similar view of the game etc. A good break here or there and who knows. But right now just enjoying top level junior hockey to be honest.
 
Maybe it happens. I have my fingers crossed aha.

2 years ago it would have been a pipe dream...

now at least there are guys employed by NHL teams who value my opinions, know who I am, share a similar view of the game etc. A good break here or there and who knows. But right now just enjoying top level junior hockey to be honest.
Considering you’re a flyer fan and we know they listen to the show, and the Flyers suck at drafting - maybe the Flyers should hire you.
 
It is pretty impressive that, in only his 4th year of organized hockey, he was able to hold down a starting role for Oshawa, playing ahead of their Czech import on a team that loaded up for a potential MemCup run. He held his own in the OHL playoffs after less than half a season in Major Jr. He's had a pretty steep learning curve, we'll see if he can turn his infrastructure advantages into a pro career. He'll have a year in the OHL then whatever he needs at BU to try and catch up the experiential gap. Someone will draft him, we'll see how high, but it'll be interesting to follow his story.
Would this be a Jordan Maialata type pick?
 

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