I watch a few of these as well to help formulate an opinion. I tend to listen for if they are all picking up on the same weakness or same strength, everyone is going to have a slightly different take due to their background but if they all are seeing x or y then its a good bet its something that is a big deal. After that I tend to watch a few shift by shift games. I steer clear of the highlight vids anyone can look good on those, even Brady Martin. You also do tend to notice bias when they are doing a prospect they love, doesn't make them wrong but you can temper your expectation -- this is why scouting and drafting isn't an exact science as the human element comes in to play at some point.
Same here. Across sports you see talented people not be able to jump to the next level due to a myriad of factors that have nothing to do with talent and everything to do with factors that cannot be measured.
Most of my experience with this is football, but the stories you hear from people really do make everything fall into place sometimes.
There was a large faller in the NFL this year who I was told had 7 different positional coaches at two schools and all of them loathed him. It’s hard to argue with that.
*Edit* Not Shedeur. I see how that could read and it’s not what I meant at all.
A lot of it has to do with that coaches and scouts are really only honest with those they trust, even if its completely true you can get black-balled / ostracized. While "anonymous sources" are likely rumors, there are some where the coach will say something in confidence. I remember, and yes this will show my age, back during the OJ trial our OL coach was Joe DeLamielleure and he played with OJ in Buffalo. During any press conference he would get at least one question about his opinion on OJ and he would stick to the normal good teammate speech. Some of us got to hear his more candid take on OJ and his guilt or innocence.
Too many 6’6 don’t pan out, people still haven’t learned from Issac ratcliffe? How about matt strome? If you can’t skate won’t play in this league. Appleyard shared stats of taller players vs smaller in later rounds of the draft. The results speak for themselves. Building a team to beat Florida today, is why you will lose tomorrow!Any thoughts on Mason West? Late bday, 6'6, from Minnesota. Seems like a high upside pick
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At least they like Frondell and Hagens so that makes me feel a lot better.
That means they would pass on Martone regardless. If that makes you feel great...
I wouldn’t pass on Martone personally but at least this removes Martin and O’Brien from the discussion. I think Martone will end up a moot point anyway and he probably goes before 6That means they would pass on Martone regardless. If that makes you feel great...
And that quote made it sound like Desnoyers is their 2C in this draft and Hagens may be their 5C.
I also think ASF likes to hear himself talk so there's that too.
Think you are taking this too literal. He didn't say Martin wasn't an option (again if we are to take this at face value), just wondered if they thought he was a Center or not, which is the only thing they really care about (see Luchanko, Jett).
From the sounds of it, they will pass on Hagens if they can. If I were a GM, I trade to one spot after the Flyers. You know something good drops there.
I doubt two of Hagens/Frondell/Desnoyers are there so if the Flyers are going best center available and Hagens is there, he’s probably the pick. Still think Nashville grabs him if he’s available though
What's the deal with Reschny? Why is he a borderline first round? Just a size thing?
Not for me but NHL teams drop guys about two grades when their height doesn’t start with a 6 it seems, especially a center.
