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It seems like there is a real chance Hagens slips to 6. That’s who I wanted at 4. Maybe you have a deal in place to trade back if he’s gone, but I don’t want to trade 6 if he could be there.

A deal with Montreal to move back I would think is likely contingent upon Desnoyers being there. If Briere can exploit their desperation for a hometown kid, might be a smart move.

Don't know much about Hage - just that he's a late 1st rounder.
 
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Desnoyers not showing much in this game at all...... tank for Mckenna btw.... kid has everything but great size
There is such nonchalance to Desi’s game. Finished watching the London game last night. There were several times he was two hard strides on the back check to catch his man and he just glides… Sam O’Reilly is a really good player, pity we didn’t get a chance to pick him.
 
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Yeh, I think those 6 at the top are the 6 with clearcut best odds to be actual impact players... Eklund is roughly similar to his brother at the same age level wise BUT he is a bit more dynamic and a bit chippier. So for me? Hard for him not to become a 70 point winger unless he simply does not get any better.

I dont dislike Desnoyers. And O'Brien has skill. But both just give me the impression that they likely top out as 2nd liners. I might believe more in Bear and Potter in terms of chances to be a 70+ point forward really.

Also hoping the Flyers can snag at least one of Ryabkin, Potter, Kindel, Reschny and Zharovsky in the late 1st. I feel like those 5, while not without their risks, are the most "Home run potential" later picks. Ihs-Wozniak also intrigues me but he needs work in terms of how he plays to unlock his talent at the highest level.
Curious as to what you think on O’Brien’s weaknesses are. From what I’ve been reading I’ve seen some point out his skating explosiveness. As one of the younger players in the draft I think that could be improved as he gets stronger. I think he needs to add 15-20 lbs before he’s nhl ready.
 
Curious as to what you think on O’Brien’s weaknesses are. From what I’ve been reading I’ve seen some point out his skating explosiveness. As one of the younger players in the draft I think that could be improved as he gets stronger. I think he needs to add 15-20 lbs before he’s nhl ready.
Right now his 5v5 scoring, seems to be a PP specialist.
 
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There is such nonchalance to Desi’s game. Finished watching the London game last night. There were several times he was two hard strides on the back check to catch his man and he just glides… Sam O’Reilly is a really good player, pity we didn’t get a chance to pick him.
I never got the 2-way center aspect of his game, never saw it.
 
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Curious as to what you think on O’Brien’s weaknesses are. From what I’ve been reading I’ve seen some point out his skating explosiveness. As one of the younger players in the draft I think that could be improved as he gets stronger. I think he needs to add 15-20 lbs before he’s nhl ready.

Skating is an issue for sure. Also he is a very "junior" type point scorer. Plays on the perimeter a lot and at 5v5 he just doesnt play at pace almost ever.

He looks like he is on a Sunday drive to the farmers market when he gets the puck on the cycle, time to take in the trees and the birds and who is sat in seat F25 etc...

I also think while he is a good PKer his D is not more than above average in OHL... Morgan Frost for example was much better defensively in the OHL at the same age.

Also, he needs to learn to shoot more...

His IQ, passing and puck protection are great. His size and solid D and PKing will transfer too. His realease is good too.

But he will have a lot less time at the pro level and how he adapts to that will be the making or the breaking of him. See Logan Brown.

If I were picking 10th I would love a pick like that, because the skill is for sure there! But at 6, well, I think guys with similar upsides but higher floors are likely available.
 
Skating is an issue for sure. Also he is a very "junior" type point scorer. Plays on the perimeter a lot and at 5v5 he just doesnt play at pace almost ever.

He looks like he is on a Sunday drive to the farmers market when he gets the puck on the cycle, time to take in the trees and the birds and who is sat in seat F25 etc...

I also think while he is a good PKer his D is not more than above average in OHL... Morgan Frost for example was much better defensively in the OHL at the same age.

Also, he needs to learn to shoot more...

His IQ, passing and puck protection are great. His size and solid D and PKing will transfer too. His realease is good too.

But he will have a lot less time at the pro level and how he adapts to that will be the making or the breaking of him. See Logan Brown.

If I were picking 10th I would love a pick like that, because the skill is for sure there! But at 6, well, I think guys with similar upsides but higher floors are likely available.

Would you do 6 for Hage, 16, and 17 with Montreal?
 
I snorted at the 2017 draft being weak and comparable to this one.

This shit is inevitable. They’ll get squeezed out of the top 4, and the consensus picks are all non-needle moving floor guys, and they’re too poor at drafting/cowardly to chase the non-consensus player that looks better without hindsight. Then there’s the pretending the obvious floor pick has home run upside for a few years — “professionals” vs. “amateurs” will be thrown around — while the player we identified as the BPA probably becomes a star.

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And I think we already have a pretty firm grasp on Briere’s vision with late 1sts and 2nds. He sees shapes, nothing more.
10 years from now robo-Clarke will be on Snow the Goalie with GM Scott Laughton to tell us how the scouts all wanted Bear, and how DB went rogue and overruled them.
 
Curious as to what you think on O’Brien’s weaknesses are. From what I’ve been reading I’ve seen some point out his skating explosiveness. As one of the younger players in the draft I think that could be improved as he gets stronger. I think he needs to add 15-20 lbs before he’s nhl ready.
I don’t think it’s a skating issue so much as it’s a pace issue with O’Brien. His feet are just stagnant. Forget stride mechanics, edge work, or strength—he simply doesn’t move his feet enough. That kind of lack of urgency feels innate, and to me, that’s one of the hardest things to teach or fix. The NHL gives you so much less time and space, and players who don’t keep their feet moving tend to struggle. It’s not impossible for a slower-paced guy to succeed, but the odds are definitely stacked against you. And when you combine that with only average skating (I'm being kind)? It’s a double whammy.
 
I would wait until pick #5 was off the board ahaha.

I like Hage but think most likely ends up a 2nd liner.

If Hagens or Martone are there probably take the pick.

Yeah I feel the same way with regards to Hagens and Martone. If it's choosing between a prospect like Desnoyers, Frondell, or O'Brien..that's when i'm not sure.
 
If Danny has been learning from Howie, this does seem like a Howie move -- albeit very public announcement -- but its announcing the pick is open for deals. The logical reason is that depending on who is there #6 is outside that 2nd tier prospect group. If you can trade back, rather than reaching, and pick up an extra 1st that would be smart.
 

Daniel Brière outright says he will negotiate with Kent Hughes and the Montreal Canadiens for the 6th overall pick in the 2025 draft​


Asked about the possibility, here's what Brière had to say:
"It's already started. We're getting going. We've had a few little chats here and there," said the Quebec native when Jean-Charles Lajoie asked if other clubs were calling him to find out what it would take to draft 6th overall.

- TVA Sports

And more specifically about the Montreal Canadiens, Brière answered this:
The host of JiC took the liberty of asking if the Canadiens were among the teams that had called Brière.

"No, not yet.

I haven't heard from the Canadiens, but it's going to happen," the GM replied.

"We're going to talk."

- TVA Sports​
Briere bout to trade this 1st for their 1st next year
 
Right now his 5v5 scoring, seems to be a PP specialist.
I don't hate the kid, I'm indifferent. He doesn't seem to be a difference maker and he's not having much impact in his last several games. If he was really, really fast, his skillset would play better, but he's not. If he was really intense and physical, his skillset would shine.
 
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I don't hate the kid, I'm indifferent. He doesn't seem to be a difference maker and he's not having much impact in his last several games. If he was really, really fast, his skillset would play better, but he's not. If he was really intense and physical, his skillset would shine.
I think outside of a few players that fits this class to a T.
 

Daniel Brière outright says he will negotiate with Kent Hughes and the Montreal Canadiens for the 6th overall pick in the 2025 draft​


Asked about the possibility, here's what Brière had to say:
"It's already started. We're getting going. We've had a few little chats here and there," said the Quebec native when Jean-Charles Lajoie asked if other clubs were calling him to find out what it would take to draft 6th overall.

- TVA Sports

And more specifically about the Montreal Canadiens, Brière answered this:
The host of JiC took the liberty of asking if the Canadiens were among the teams that had called Brière.

"No, not yet.

I haven't heard from the Canadiens, but it's going to happen," the GM replied.

"We're going to talk."

- TVA Sports​

Do you have a link to this story or video? I'd like to read/hear the French first-hand. The translation feels awkward.
 
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I would wait until pick #5 was off the board ahaha.

I like Hage but think most likely ends up a 2nd liner.

If Hagens or Martone are there probably take the pick.
I would also wait until #5 pick was gone. At #6, in this draft, outside of Hagens/Martone I would be happy if what we got was a 2nd liner, plus get 2 more lottery tickets. Not saying that Hagens/Martone are slam dunk 1st liners but if they are gone with the profile of this class -- I like my odds with Hage.
 
Yeh, I think those 6 at the top are the 6 with clearcut best odds to be actual impact players... Eklund is roughly similar to his brother at the same age level wise BUT he is a bit more dynamic and a bit chippier. So for me? Hard for him not to become a 70 point winger unless he simply does not get any better.

I dont dislike Desnoyers. And O'Brien has skill. But both just give me the impression that they likely top out as 2nd liners. I might believe more in Bear and Potter in terms of chances to be a 70+ point forward really.

Also hoping the Flyers can snag at least one of Ryabkin, Potter, Kindel, Reschny and Zharovsky in the late 1st. I feel like those 5, while not without their risks, are the most "Home run potential" later picks. Ihs-Wozniak also intrigues me but he needs work in terms of how he plays to unlock his talent at the highest level.

Great insight thanks! I am more excited for the late round picks. 6OA will hopefully be Hagens or chalk. The later picks could be where we can make a jump forward on this prospect pool. If McQueen only dropped because of his injury and would be available around the mtl picks or a pick we could move up from, it wouldn’t be terrible if one the top guys was not there. This has to be one of the easier drafts to move around if you wanted to.

My hope was that Desnoyers would have a good tournament which would convince a club to jump him before the Flyers make their selection. That would leave Hagens or Frondell on the board for them. Since that didn’t happen, Desnoyers is bound to be a Flyer. At least they will have scouted him since they have his brother. They also should have a good grip on knowing his family and health history. No chance that he’ll be a pick like Patrick with hidden health issues. Desnoyers may end up being a good not great player. He seems to be the type of player who is solid all around with nothing great. Looks to fit in where needed. Could do worse
He won MVP I believe and had a strong showing. I think he moved up hopefully to top 5.
 
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Briere bout to trade this 1st for their 1st next year

It would be a good move if we obviously got some additional assets in return AND Briere made no moves on any UFA's, kept our goaltending duo (better if they move Ersson, an re-sign and promote Peterson) and traded players like Tippett and Risto away...embracing the tank for next year.

Other than that, it's a dumb move.

The draft and UFA crop next year is much better.
 

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