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Appleyard said:
If I were running this draft for the Flyers I may genuinely take forwards with all 7 of the top 50 picks depending on how things fell. :laugh:

Limatov in the 2nd is maybe the only guy who I feel is likely to be a BPA on D somewhere before 50 given where Flyers pick... Boumedienne might have had a chance with an early 2nd a few weeks ago... but now? Guess he goes in the top 25 and think better fwds will be there.

Maybe I could justify a goalie at #49 I guess...
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Especially since we getting Quinn now ;)
 
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flyersnorth said:
Desnoyers would be a solid 2C choice. I wouldn't dislike the pick, but would be bummed about the apparent "lack of dynamic traits".

I wonder who the most likely top 6 player to be passed over would be.
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From my highly uneducated opinion Desnoyers, outside of skating, would be better then Luchanko and a good bet to hit that 2C ceiling. Again everyone is trying to project 17/18 year old kids, some of which havent filled out so its a guessing game.
 
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I’m curious why a lot of people think Frondell will not be a center in the NHL. Is it his style? With his shot I could see him being similar to Tage Thompson or a very poor man’s Matthews
 
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Desnoyers for the flyers would be unfortunate imo... I think Obrien and Desnoyers are both overrated in value...

Id rather have Eklund or Martone over those two because those two are closer to being 1st line players imo than Desnoyers... With all the picks the flyers have, it'll be very easy to hit on a middle six center this draft later down the line.

Someone still hasnt sold me on Desnoyers and why hes worthy of being a top 6 prospect. Maybe Im being irrational but I just dont think he'll maintain that spot 6 years later in a redraft.
 
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iceman42 said:
From my highly uneducated opinion Desnoyers, outside of skating, would be better then Luchanko and a good bet to hit that 2C ceiling. Again everyone is trying to project 17/18 year old kids, some of which havent filled out so its a guessing game.
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Desnoyers is a better Luchanko from my uneducated view and watching both play hockey and looking at their stats... Neither are 1C's though. If we took Buium last year Id care less.
 
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iceman42 said:
From my highly uneducated opinion Desnoyers, outside of skating, would be better then Luchanko and a good bet to hit that 2C ceiling. Again everyone is trying to project 17/18 year old kids, some of which havent filled out so its a guessing game.
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If they can swing a trade for Rossi, and land Desnoyers or Hagens...

Rossi/Desnoyers/Luchanko is pretty promising C depth.

I've seen another mock where Frondell falls to 6.
 
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Gregor Samsa said:
I’m curious why a lot of people think Frondell will not be a center in the NHL. Is it his style? With his shot I could see him being similar to Tage Thompson or a very poor man’s Matthews
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He's not really the primary play driver on his line, Eklund handles that, and hes less of a playmaker then most centers, although like you said there's Tage Thompson. Ive seen other comps like a better version of Zach Hyman.
 
flyersnorth said:
If they can swing a trade for Rossi, and land Desnoyers or Hagens...

Rossi/Desnoyers/Luchanko is pretty promising C depth.

I've seen another mock where Frondell falls to 6.
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Certainly would be a good 2 3 4. Idk if any will become a 1. Flyers seem very good in recent years at collecting good players for their tier outside of the top tier... its like a reverse edmonton/toronto haha
 
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I know Martin is joked about here but I think he has similar upside as Desnoyers. Martin plays in the tougher league, they scored similar amounts of goals, and will probably have way more of an edge to his game. Desnoyers had 10 more assists than Martin but could that be related to playing on a much better team as assists are highly dependent upon teammates in a lot of instances?
 
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Gregor Samsa said:
I know Martin is joked about here but I think he has similar upside as Desnoyers. Martin plays in the tougher league, they scored similar amounts of goals, and will probably have way more of an edge to his game. Desnoyers had 10 more assists than Martin but could that be related to playing on a much better team as assists are highly dependent upon teammates in a lot of instances?
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I think its because his style/underlying numbers project similar to other good bottom 6 centers and people believe his scoring prowess will decline in the nhl. Perhaps because he wouldn't be able to out work/fight Men as well?
 
scumpup said:
Certainly would be a good 2 3 4. Idk if any will become a 1. Flyers seem very good in recent years at collecting good players for their tier outside of the top tier... its like a reverse edmonton/toronto haha
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If Michkov can become even close to the player he looks like he can be I think he can turn a 2C into what people call a 1C. Also think you’re selling Luchanko short
 
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scumpup said:
I think its because his style/underlying numbers project similar to other good bottom 6 centers and people believe his scoring prowess will decline in the nhl. Perhaps because he wouldn't be able to out work/fight Men as well?
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You gotta figure Martin will turn into a man as well. Plus it’s not like he’s a behemoth bully kids.
 
Gregor Samsa said:
I know Martin is joked about here but I think he has similar upside as Desnoyers. Martin plays in the tougher league, they scored similar amounts of goals, and will probably have way more of an edge to his game. Desnoyers had 10 more assists than Martin but could that be related to playing on a much better team as assists are highly dependent upon teammates in a lot of instances?
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Martin's offensive game isn't to that level of Desnoyers, his shot is average, he mainly scores off the rush and with his wrist shot, one timer is almost non-existent.
 
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scumpup said:
Certainly would be a good 2 3 4. Idk if any will become a 1. Flyers seem very good in recent years at collecting good players for their tier outside of the top tier... its like a reverse edmonton/toronto haha
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@Appleyard laid out why he thinks Rossi could produce at a 1C level, and there's also a chance that Desnoyers hits a low-end 1C ceiling.

And I agree with @Gregor Samsa that a guy like Michkov could elevate the players around him as well.

So, maybe no elite 1Cs, but the potential is there.
 
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The thing about 1C is that very few prospects project to be that. And someone has to play the position, you can’t just leave it vacant. We are getting by with a past his expiration date Couts now. It doesn’t take much imagination to see that role being filled more appropriately in the future. They just need to gather a group of 3+ centers to have depth down the middle of the ice and have the one who deserves it most play the 1C
 
Gregor Samsa said:
I think someone posted O’Brien’s comparables in this thread and it’s scary but each player is different and the past doesn’t necessarily dictate the future and someone can always buck the trend. He’s definitely boom or bust I think, he won’t be an okay draft pick but either a bad one or a great one

I still think there will be a major surprise in the top 5 as there often is. Armstrong has gone off the reservation to pick Simashev, Buk, and Iginla in the 1st the last 2 drafts. I could see him liking McQueen or Martin. I think a team in the top 5 may also take a swing on O’Brien if they don’t like the upside of the other guys
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McQueen going in the top 5 would not surprise me at all. There are some wild card GMs ahead of us.

Nashville would love a big Center and Trotz is a weirdo as a GM, so I can definitely see them going with McQueen.
 
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