Official 2025 NHL DRAFT Thread

If the Flyers don’t win the lottery I hope Nashville does. Flyers stay at 4 and Nashville is competition for the cellar next year and maybe Schaefer gives them a boost. Plus I think picks 2 and 3 can be interesting if the order is Nashville, SJ, Chicago, Philly

If the Flyers drop to 5 let it be Seattle that wins as they are also basement divers with the Flyers next year
 
If the Flyers end up 6th and must reach for a player, I’d rather it be one of the 2nd tier defensemen Mrtka or Smith. I’d even stomach O’Brien over Martin
 
So what about Martone at C? A big playmaking center with great hands and vision. Someone brought it up in the prospects thread and I thought it was interesting. Either way the Flyers shouldn’t pigeonhole themselves into drafting a C though they probably will
 
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If the Flyers don’t win the lottery I hope Nashville does. Flyers stay at 4 and Nashville is competition for the cellar next year and maybe Schaefer gives them a boost. Plus I think picks 2 and 3 can be interesting if the order is Nashville, SJ, Chicago, Philly

If the Flyers drop to 5 let it be Seattle that wins as they are also basement divers with the Flyers next year
I don't see Schaefer in the NHL next year, 1OA or not. He really does need to fill out a bit before he gets filled in by the big boys. I really don't see ANY of the top picks being NHL ready right now, except whoever the Flyers draft, because he will be there on opening day no matter what or who.
 
So what about Martone at C? A big playmaking center with great hands and vision. Someone brought it up in the prospects thread and I thought it was interesting. Either way the Flyers shouldn’t pigeonhole themselves into drafting a C though they probably will

If he's never played C, than no thanks. Not many wingers can easily transition to Center and be as effective. A lot more defensive responsibility.
 
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As long as it’s one of Schaefer, Misa, Hagens, Martone, Frondell, or Desnoyers I’m happy. Even if they drop to 6th one of them will be there and it should be an easy pick

I think Boston gets Martin if they drop to 7th or one of the Ducks or Pittsburgh
 
So what about Martone at C? A big playmaking center with great hands and vision. Someone brought it up in the prospects thread and I thought it was interesting. Either way the Flyers shouldn’t pigeonhole themselves into drafting a C though they probably will
Poor skating centers hardly work out. They are usually one of the best skaters on the team/line.
 
Feels like the instinctual Brady Martin hate assumes he sucks because he hits hard. I don’t want him near the top 5, but I honestly don’t know how I’d answer if picking between Martin, O’Brien, and McQueen. Probably prefer Martin tbh.
 
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The funniest (and saddest) part of all this is that if the Flyers had just let AI spit out a consensus draft board every year and blindly picked the top name available, they'd be in a much better spot right now.

I asked ChatGPT to compare the Flyers' actual first-round picks over the last 15 years to the consensus best available at each pick. Here's how it went:

2011 – Took Couturier. Consensus was Couturier.
2012 – Took Laughton. Consensus was Vasilevskiy.
2013 – Took Morin. Consensus was Morrissey.
2014 – Took Sanheim. Consensus was Pastrnak. (Kill me.)
2015 – Took Provorov. Consensus was Rantanen.
2015 – Took Konecny. Consensus was Konecny.
2016 – Took Rubtsov. Consensus was Tage Thompson. (Disaster.)
2017 – Took Patrick. Consensus (by draft day) was Makar. (LOL.)
2018 – Took Farabee. Consensus was Farabee.
2019 – Took York. Consensus was Caufield. (everyone knew this was gonna be an issue)
2020 – Took Foerster. Consensus was Foerster/Perreault.
2021 – No first-round pick.
2022 – Took Cutter. Consensus was Cutter.
2023 – Took Michkov. Consensus was Michkov.
2024 - Took Jett. Consensus was Zeev.

Summary:
Every time the Flyers followed the consensus? Pretty good.
Every time they thought they were smarter? Catastrophe.
Not once did we outsmart the board.
The few times we got it right were just because consensus fell into our laps.

So yeah — you could have locked a laptop in a broom closet with a list of Bob McKenzie's rankings each year, and that laptop would have done a better job running the Flyers draft table.
This is complete crap, and I don't mean you, this just isn't factually correct. I've been a huge draft follower since 2010 so I can provide some insight on who ACTUALLY was the consensus:

2011 - Couturier
2021 - Olli Maata (vasilevskiy had already been picked)
2013 - Max Domi
2014 - Kasperi Kapanen
2015 - Ivan Provorov
2016 - Alex Debrincat
2017 - Nolan Patrick
2018 - Ty Smith
2019 - Cole Caufield/Boldy
2020 - Jacob Perrault
2022 - David Jiricek
2023 - Michkov
2024 - Buium
 
Marin is good, dam good. People comparing him to Boucher clearly haven't watched him. I obviously wouldn't pick him with our top 6 pick but he deserves to be ranked in the 10-12 range
 
Someone told me that the draft re-seeds after the second round. So Dallas and LA winning still keep them at 23/24 unless a lot of underdogs make it to the conference finals.

Is that correct?
I’m not sure actually. Even though I’d rather the Edm and Col 1sts be in the mid 20’s, I would be content if they were late 1st round. Having so many picks so close together in the 1st/2nd would be kinda entertaining and for some nonsensical reason I feel they could get luckier
 
This is complete crap, and I don't mean you, this just isn't factually correct. I've been a huge draft follower since 2010 so I can provide some insight on who ACTUALLY was the consensus:

2011 - Couturier
2021 - Olli Maata (vasilevskiy had already been picked)
2013 - Max Domi
2014 - Kasperi Kapanen
2015 - Ivan Provorov
2016 - Alex Debrincat
2017 - Nolan Patrick
2018 - Ty Smith
2019 - Cole Caufield/Boldy
2020 - Jacob Perrault
2022 - David Jiricek
2023 - Michkov
2024 - Buium

Coming in this hot and having multiple arguably wrong is an incredible bit. Well done.

There’s often no such thing as consensus, which is the interesting bit. Someone like Patrick absolutely was. How instructive is it really to say Ty Smith was 13th in McKenzie’s survey but 15th on this consensus board and Farabee was 14th on McKenzie’s but 13th on The Hockey Writers Consensus board? You can take those any way you want. If you want to go by McKenzie on Ty Smith, you can’t also choose DeBrincat because he didn’t even have him as a 1st rounder.

Ultimately it’s too muddy when you’re not picking near the top or there isn’t a clear tier break like Buium. The only way to pin those situations down is to clearly define parameters — consensus on a specific message board or among public scouting services or really anything. But it has to have a scope. Otherwise it’s whatever you want it to mean.
 
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Honestly the drafts not worth getting worked up over anyway. Maybe the pick is good, maybe the pick is bad, maybe the pick is okay. Everyone will find out years later. With 18 year old kids it’s a crapshoot to some degree outside the first 1-2 picks usually. Some will overcome their deficiencies and add to their strengths, others will struggle in the NHL game. I have the feeling this board is going to get worked up over the draft lol
 

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