Official 2025 NHL DRAFT Thread

[FLYguy3911]

@BigToe are you a Boumedienne guy? He's a point away from tying the u18 points record for a defenseman with like 3 games to play lol.

 

[macleish1974]

Watched the highlights of Canada vs Norway. Cootes and Martin. I believe Cootes is captain. Both looked like grizzly vets against Norwegian peewees.
Could not imagine would this team be like with McKenna. Not enough pucks………

I guess no way for either with late round firsts..

 

[BigToe]

@BigToe are you a Boumedienne guy? He's a point away from tying the u18 points record for a defenseman with like 3 games to play lol.

I like him but I’m not sure where to place him yet. I’ll have a better read when I see a couple more games of him.

 

[BernieParent]

Button said don't be surprised if Martin goes in the top 5.

It's Button. He wouldn't be surprised if I went top 5.

 

[BernieParent]

6th is when I get nervous. If Schaefer, Misa, Hagens, Frondell, and Desnoyers are gone, I wouldn’t be surprised if their choice is O’Brien or (*gulp*) Martin. I will say the former is much more “palatable” than the latter

Martone?

EDIT; Never mind. I saw your later preference for Martone over Desnoyers.

 

[TheKingPin]

I’ll be just as shocked/happy as when we locked in the 4th pick as I would be if both the Avs and Edm picks are just about best case scenarios.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

I’m still hoping Dallas and LA win but it would be interesting if we had like 6 picks between 30 and 48, like 33% of the first half of the 2nd round

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

I like him but I’m not sure where to place him yet. I’ll have a better read when I see a couple more games of him.

 

[bauer]

I like Cootes and Martin a lot for our 20’s picks but with so many teams looking for C’s, there’s a very good chance they’ll be long gone by then.

More realistic would probably be Reschny, Kindel or Potter. Good chance at least one of them makes it to us.

My biggest fear is that they automatically go D again with the EDM/COL picks just because they likely go forward with 4OA. Like what happened with Bonk. The forwards in that range will be far better than the D that will be available so if they go need again I’m gonna seriously lose my shit.

Unless we win the lottery, all our first rounders should be forwards.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

A lot of ammo in the 20-50 range is nice. Some intriguing players

I’d like to grab a faller due to size like Potter, Schmidt, Kindel, or Reschny

A potential center or 2 in that range (I think Martin and Cootes are long gone) like Murtagh, Nesbitt, Gastrin, Moore, McKinney, or Nilson

I’d also like 2-3 of the defenders in that range

It will be nice to replenish the system

 

[StoneColdAnimal]

Updated my search criteria. I believe the below is a bit closer. Consensus was determined based on Bob McKenzie’s final rankings (weighted most heavily) and cross-referenced with Central Scouting and major public scouting outlets — focusing only on players still available when the Flyers picked. I'm not doing independent research, but wanted to clean up the initial post due to errors that were obvious and should have been recognized. This should be a bit closer, but tends to stay with my initial point. Just pick consensus.

Year	Flyers Pick	Consensus BPA (Still Available)	Flyers Picked	Good or Bad?
2011	#8	Sean Couturier	Sean Couturier	Correct pick
2012	#20	Olli Määttä (mid-1st consensus left)	Scott Laughton	Miss
2013	#11	Josh Morrissey (projected top-15 still there)	Samuel Morin	Miss
2014	#17	David Pastrnak (late-1st consensus left)	Travis Sanheim	Miss
2015	#7	Ivan Provorov or Zach Werenski (both consensus top-7)	Ivan Provorov	Correct pick
2015	#24	Travis Konecny (consensus late teens–20s)	Travis Konecny	Correct pick
2016	#22	Tage Thompson (mid-to-late 1st consensus)	German Rubtsov	Miss
2017	#2	Nolan Patrick (consensus #2 at the time)	Nolan Patrick	️ Bad luck, not poor choice
2018	#14	Joel Farabee (consensus 10–15 range)	Joel Farabee	Correct pick
2019	#14	Cole Caufield (consensus ~8–12 range)	Cam York	Miss
2020	#23	Tyson Foerster (consensus late-1st)	Tyson Foerster	Correct pick
2021	No 1st	N/A	N/A	N/A
2022	#5	Cutter Gauthier (consensus 4–6)	Cutter Gauthier	Correct pick
2023	#7	Matvei Michkov (consensus BPA after drop)	Matvei Michkov	Correct pick

 

[Curufinwe]

It makes no sense to call Laughton and Sanheim misses at their spots in the draft. Laughton is 17th in scoring from the 2012 draft, and if Pastrnak was actually considered BPA at #17 in 2014 he wouldn't have lasted till #25.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Also Provorov can’t tie Werenski’s skates.

 

[Appleyard]

Pastrnak was definitely not consensus BPA when Flyers took Sanheim.

Tuch, Kapanen and McCann I guess were ahead of him in basically every ranking. And Fabbri was a guy who divided opinion majorly, some had top 10, some 25... but still mostly ahead of Pastrnak.

Pastrnak was a 5'11 160lb Euro winger... who was "mediocre" at the WJC-18.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Pastrnak is amazing but you cannot convince me had he gotten picked by the Flyers he looks like this version of Pastrnak.

Teams that have been bad for a decade+ aren’t bad just because they draft poorly. They are bad because the infrastructure sucks. No Flyers draft mishap comes anywhere close to what the Bruins did in 2015 and somehow they were still able to compete for Cups for the next decade.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

I feel as if the biggest thing history has taught is that the 60-70 Point guy who improved being better than the 80 Point guy who plateaued is how bad franchises pick. You're assigning arbitrary weights to data and cherry picking sample sizes.

Drafting is already impossible. No need to make it even harder.

It's amazing how many times you've said this in this thread already, and yet you keep having to say it.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I would call Tuch consensus from what I remember and a quick look back.

Definitely not Tage Thompson for me either. They traded down. By consensus, they would have stayed put and picked Kieffer Bellows. I would argue any non-Bellows side would count as correct because I never saw a good NHLer in that guy for a second but YMMV.

 

[FLYguy3911]

I would call Tuch consensus from what I remember and a quick look back.

Milano (one pick before) and Tuch was the overwhelming consensus on this board I know that.

 

[Curufinwe]

Pastrnak was definitely not consensus BPA when Flyers took Sanheim.

Tuch, Kapanen and McCann I guess were ahead of him in basically every ranking. And Fabbri was a guy who divided opinion majorly, some had top 10, some 25... but still mostly ahead of Pastrnak.

Pastrnak was a 5'11 160lb Euro winger... who was "mediocre" at the WJC-18.

I thought they were gonna take Kapanen.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Milano (one pick before) and Tuch was the overwhelming consensus on this board I know that.

This was my exact recollection too. I had to go back to make sure Milano was gone because that was the part I didn't remember.

 

[Sombastate]

I’m still hoping Dallas and LA win but it would be interesting if we had like 6 picks between 30 and 48, like 33% of the first half of the 2nd round

Someone told me that the draft re-seeds after the second round. So Dallas and LA winning still keep them at 23/24 unless a lot of underdogs make it to the conference finals.

Is that correct?

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

DFF would’ve taken Tuch 1st overall that year.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Briere walks up to podium for pick ~#4, would you be more upset to hear Martin’s name or McQueen’s?

 

[Rebels57]

Briere walks up to podium for pick ~#4, would you be more upset to hear Martin’s name or McQueen’s?

Yes

 

[Curufinwe]

It would be typical Flyers for the GM to go to a random podium somewhere when the draft isn't being done in person this year.