Official 2025 NHL DRAFT Thread

I think if the Flyers don't pick in the top 7 this year, the rebuild is a failure. There's no return.

You failed the Cutter situation
Bonk doesn't appear to be much of a game changer
Luchanko was a complete and utter disaster
and if you leave this draft with a middle 6 player, you can't come back from that.

Leaving a 4 year run of 4 top 15 picks with Michkov, Luchanko, Drysdale and 3rd liner is borderline impossible to come back from.

Boston gets so much shit for that horrific year, we managed to stretch out that horrific year over 4
 
Boston gets so much shit for that horrific year

One of the all-time bad 1st rounds given the context. Perhaps cost them a championship. Still made a Cup Final a few years later and won a President’s Trophy after that.

The Flyers model their magical rebuild after Boston and St. Louis, but they can’t even get to the “Hope and Prayer Stage” because they f*** up tying their shoes. Their hopes and prayers get answered annually and they say, “Nah, we good.”
 
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Modeling after teams like the Kings, St Louis, or Boston is comical.

Teams who had great goaltending during their runs, even if Binnington has shown that his performance can swing wildly toward the other end of the spectrum as well.

The Flyers chose to needlessly ride Hart into the ground even when concerns regarding health were there.

That aside, the joke about goaltenders + Philadelphia is extremely accurate. They don’t value the position, or developing the position properly. They think they can big brain their way to success with an average tender - and enough talent elsewhere.

Right. :laugh:

They have a chance at someone like Ravensbergen with their excess of first round picks. See if they have the balls to gamble on the position with a higher pick.
 
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I hope everyone who calls Brady Martin “nightmare” just didn’t see him play hockey game, and only thing they know about him is he loves hits.
In the other cases I just don’t realize what do you want from modern C.

Also according EP Flyers are 30th in height and 32nd in weight. So what a great time to continue the war against non-exist morons an hate players just because they are taller than 5’9.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are patients who are willing to spend the first round for Cameron Schmidt
 
The easiest path to this team being worth a damn is finding a true 1G. A top end one.

To mask the lack of talent elsewhere that is bound to be the issue. Goaltending has a chance to be their salvation, to mask that they are bereft of talent elsewhere.

Would like to see that be somewhat of a focus the next few drafts. They aren’t going to big brain their way into success by going BPA with their own assessments. So I actually do agree with drafting somewhat for need. A goaltender is the biggest one. More than a 1C or 1D.
 
I hope everyone who calls Brady Martin “nightmare” just didn’t see him play hockey game, and only thing they know about him is he loves hits.
In the other cases I just don’t realize what do you want from modern C.

Also according EP Flyers are 30th in height and 32nd in weight. So what a great time to continue the war against non-exist morons an hate players just because they are taller than 5’9.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are patients who are willing to spend the first round for Cameron Schmidt
I would love Brady Martin with one of their other 1sts but there is just better value to be had in the top 10.

As an aside, has anyone ever compared the general consensus beforehand to the actual outcome from past drafts? I’m curious how accurate it is
 
I would love Brady Martin with one of their other 1sts but there is just better value to be had in the top 10.

As an aside, has anyone ever compared the general consensus beforehand to the actual outcome from past drafts? I’m curious how accurate it is

Seems like there is one faller replaced by one riser each year in the Top 10..but the other 9 guys are usually consensus.

For example, 2021 the top 9 of the 10 picks were in McKenzie's Final Ranking. The only off the board pick was Ottawa selecting Tyler Boucher out of nowhere at #10. Chaz Lucius was the faller.
 
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Seems like there is one faller replaced by one riser each year in the Top 10..but the other 9 guys are usually consensus.

For example, 2021 the top 9 of the 10 picks were in McKenzie's Final Ranking. The only off the board pick was Ottawa selecting Tyler Boucher out of nowhere at #10. Chaz Lucius was the faller.
I should have phrased my question better: if a redraft is done ~5+ years out from that draft, how often is the redraft similar to the actual pre-draft rankings based on how the professional career has gone?
 
I think if the Flyers don't pick in the top 7 this year, the rebuild is a failure. There's no return.

You failed the Cutter situation
Bonk doesn't appear to be much of a game changer
Luchanko was a complete and utter disaster
and if you leave this draft with a middle 6 player, you can't come back from that.

Leaving a 4 year run of 4 top 15 picks with Michkov, Luchanko, Drysdale and 3rd liner is borderline impossible to come back from.

Boston gets so much shit for that horrific year, we managed to stretch out that horrific year over 4
Funny thing is we shouldn't have Michkov either. We got extremely lucky with him.
 
Yea but he's not even remotely close to Michkov. Hopefully teams make the same mistake and let Hagens fall to us 🤞.

Hagens may be good, but being on a line with Leonard and Perreault, who've been playing together for two years, and all three for half a season before the WJC, is a bit of an advantage.

This surprised me, Luchanko is little more than two months older than Hagens (8-21-06 v 11-3-06)
 
Hagens may be good, but being on a line with Leonard and Perreault, who've been playing together for two years, and all three for half a season before the WJC, is a bit of an advantage.

This surprised me, Luchanko is little more than two months older than Hagens (8-21-06 v 11-3-06)
I'm curious what your 10 would be as of today? Obviously plenty of room to change things, just curious where you currently stand
 
The easiest path to this team being worth a damn is finding a true 1G. A top end one.

To mask the lack of talent elsewhere that is bound to be the issue. Goaltending has a chance to be their salvation, to mask that they are bereft of talent elsewhere.

Would like to see that be somewhat of a focus the next few drafts. They aren’t going to big brain their way into success by going BPA with their own assessments. So I actually do agree with drafting somewhat for need. A goaltender is the biggest one. More than a 1C or 1D.
Too many variables with drafting a goaltender.
 
4 shitty seasons in a row, about to be 5 and what do we have to show for it?

Michkov, a future 3C, a future 4/5D and some potential bottom of the lineup players.

Gee, can’t for the life of me understand why so many are totally pessimistic.

Vomit, the new era of orange is just more vomit, you know, like the last era of orange.
 
Almost all the worst possible outcomes played out this week in regards to the tank. What seemed like a surefire top 6 pick pre lottery is looking dicey. We need to lose 1 game in regulation to secure the 6th best odds pre lottery.

Knowing how things have gone, I'm sure they'll go 2-0 and all of Seattle, BUF, PITS, ANA will lose out. Being a fan of this team literally hurts.

I'm genuinely terrified everything will go wrong for us again this week:
1. Montreal beats Chicago tomorrow to clinch which eliminates CBJ.
2. CBJ will have nothing to play for Tuesday and we beat them at home.
3. NJ has been awful the past week, and just got spanked by BOS last week, they'll go super try hard and beat Boston.
4. LA still fighting for home ice with EDM, will beat Seattle.
5. Washington has been on sleep mode ever since Ovie broke the record. Will try and rectify before the playoffs start. Win vs PITs.
6. Anaheim has been their usual awful self the last 10 days. Minny still fighting to clinch and then they're on a B2B on the road in Winnipeg. They'll go 0-2.
7. Buffalo running out of steam after a hot stretch. Toronto still fighting to win the division, they'll beat Buffalo Tuesday. Then the most important game of all of us. BUF vs PHI on Thursday. It'll be a Gauranteed Flyers win just to break us all.

This all leads to the 9th pick and picking a future middle 6 player.

Obviously that's worst case scenario and im just going overboard, it's just hard guys. What an absolute painful ending to the season. Typical.

Let's just get this year done with. Can't handle this team for anything more than the next few days.

I'm sorry I went full Doom and Gloom, just needed to vent haha
1. GOES OUR way. Chicago does us huge favour by beating Montreal. CBJ NEEDS 2 regulation wins for any hopes of making it. A must win regulation game tomorrow.
 
Almost all the worst possible outcomes played out this week in regards to the tank. What seemed like a surefire top 6 pick pre lottery is looking dicey. We need to lose 1 game in regulation to secure the 6th best odds pre lottery.

Knowing how things have gone, I'm sure they'll go 2-0 and all of Seattle, BUF, PITS, ANA will lose out. Being a fan of this team literally hurts.

I'm genuinely terrified everything will go wrong for us again this week:
1. Montreal beats Chicago tomorrow to clinch which eliminates CBJ.
2. CBJ will have nothing to play for Tuesday and we beat them at home.
3. NJ has been awful the past week, and just got spanked by BOS last week, they'll go super try hard and beat Boston.
4. LA still fighting for home ice with EDM, will beat Seattle.
5. Washington has been on sleep mode ever since Ovie broke the record. Will try and rectify before the playoffs start. Win vs PITs.
6. Anaheim has been their usual awful self the last 10 days. Minny still fighting to clinch and then they're on a B2B on the road in Winnipeg. They'll go 0-2.
7. Buffalo running out of steam after a hot stretch. Toronto still fighting to win the division, they'll beat Buffalo Tuesday. Then the most important game of all of us. BUF vs PHI on Thursday. It'll be a Gauranteed Flyers win just to break us all.

This all leads to the 9th pick and picking a future middle 6 player.

Obviously that's worst case scenario and im just going overboard, it's just hard guys. What an absolute painful ending to the season. Typical.

Let's just get this year done with. Can't handle this team for anything more than the next few

I'm sorry I went full Doom and Gloom, just needed to vent haha
Another smaller victory tonight guys. LA dominating EDM. With today's win, they clinch 2nd in the division. Hope they don't bring their A or even B game against SEA tomorrow.
 
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