Official 2025 NHL DRAFT Thread

4th would be ideal (outside of winning the lottery) but I think as long as they don’t outside of 6th they should come away with a great player. Centers are desperately needed but Martone or Eklund would be a nice consolation prize. One of those could easily be drafted before the Flyers pick (if at 6) though and a center will fall to us. There could also be a Sennecke type situation but I’m not sure what player it would be
 
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For me its Eklund. The more i watch Martone, i dislike how slow he thinks the game, and how he seemingly has an on/off switch that is off more often than its on when it comes to being physically engaged.

Eklund is faster, better IQ and more tenacious. O'Brien is a step below the other two IMO, and you have to go BPA.

Martone is my 7th overall, So i wouldn't be super upset with him.
If we end up with Martone Konecny better be dealt. You can have only so many RW'er on your roster and we have to buckle up for McKenna.
 
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I just pray we don't get a spot where it's possible for the dumb f***s to go off the board and pick for perceived need again. Last year in pre-draft interviews, Briere was basically wearing a t-shirt saying "Must Pick Center!".
 
There’s a Tkachuk comp every year. One of the slowest players in the league but one of the best. Tough combo to replicate.

Oh I heard a funny nugget (I believe Myrtetus mentioned it). Danny and Jonesy are studying Howie Roseman and how he operates. :laugh:
Yeah, always skeptical, but Martone really seems to be a beast and he can skate, make plays and score. Would prefer a natural C, but it depends who is available when they pick. Don't really want Eklund, just because we have TK, MM, BB and OT already at RW. RW is the only position at which we can ice 4 players worthy of a contender.
 
Brady Martin is a riser.
No way he will be available to COL and EDM picks.
If Flyers are outside top5 and Martone/Hagens/Frondell are not on the table, I’d consider him as a pick. Definitely. Guy can literally everything.
 
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Oh I heard a funny nugget (I believe Myrtetus mentioned it). Danny and Jonesy are studying Howie Roseman and how he operates. :laugh:
They should be doing that however like the Flyers typically do, they will apply it wrong. I do not believe that Danny and Jonesy have a solid understanding of what it is and how to apply it to a different roster building dynamic. Some aspects apply generally like great coaches, great scouts, openness, etc. Other aspects are specific to hockey like projecting development, smaller rosters, etc.

The Flyers problem always seems to be their unwillingness to listen and change. They pay it lip service, they dress up the idea really nice, but in the end they do the same dumb things.
 
Even now, 20 years later, I’m still not sure the organ-EYE-zation grasps how much the salary cap and rule changes have changed the game. 200 ft players and grit are fine in your bottom six and 5/6 D but, skill, speed and smarts are how you win. You also need to understand today’s player and their mentality. Their failure to do so cost them CG and was probably why they were afraid to go BPA last spring.

Never forget, at the very top of their hierarchy sit a former insurance exec who worships Clarke, Barber & Holmgren and former broadcaster who played in the pre salary cap era. I go into this draft trying to be hopeful, but I’m mainly filled with dread.
 
Even now, 20 years later, I’m still not sure the organ-EYE-zation grasps how much the salary cap and rule changes have changed the game. 200 ft players and grit are fine in your bottom six and 5/6 D but, skill, speed and smarts are how you win. You also need to understand today’s player and their mentality. Their failure to do so cost them CG and was probably why they were afraid to go BPA last spring.

Never forget, at the very top of their hierarchy sit a former insurance exec who worships Clarke, Barber & Holmgren and former broadcaster who played in the pre salary cap era. I go into this draft trying to be hopeful, but I’m mainly filled with dread.
Yep. They COULD get 7 players in the top 50 who could alter the franchise forever. They need 2Cs, 4D, 2LWs and a G, but should always pick BPA.
 
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The reason that picking for need is not the best idea for this type of roster building dynamic is that you are not drafting for today, you are drafting for 2-4 years from now. The excuse that x player is too much like the other players we have on the roster doesn't work because how many of those players will be gone in 2-4 years.
 
I just pray we don't get a spot where it's possible for the dumb f***s to go off the board and pick for perceived need again. Last year in pre-draft interviews, Briere was basically wearing a t-shirt saying "Must Pick Center!".
And then they ended up picking the worst of the 4 remaining centers. Could have had Helenius, Hage or even Boisvert, all of whom i thought were significantly better prospects.

Also, if we take Brady Martin anywhere near the top 10, we deserve to become Quebec City
 
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Even now, 20 years later, I’m still not sure the organ-EYE-zation grasps how much the salary cap and rule changes have changed the game. 200 ft players and grit are fine in your bottom six and 5/6 D but, skill, speed and smarts are how you win. You also need to understand today’s player and their mentality. Their failure to do so cost them CG and was probably why they were afraid to go BPA last spring.

Never forget, at the very top of their hierarchy sit a former insurance exec who worships Clarke, Barber & Holmgren and former broadcaster who played in the pre salary cap era. I go into this draft trying to be hopeful, but I’m mainly filled with dread.
#buckle in...
 
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The reason that picking for need is not the best idea for this type of roster building dynamic is that you are not drafting for today, you are drafting for 2-4 years from now. The excuse that x player is too much like the other players we have on the roster doesn't work because how many of those players will be gone in 2-4 years.
Also, the fact that if X player ends up better than Y player means you can trade later Y player in a deal for a player in a position of need.
 
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I agree you always have to take BPA. However, in a draft like this where there are potentially 4 top line centers, you kind of have to, considering our position. Now if it goes down to O'Brien, Mrtka or Martone, because the draft crumbles a weird way, i'm all for taking Martone or Mrtka way above O'brien
 
it's insane that we have so many doubts on the flyers picking the right picks but not drafting buium last year really ticked me off. danny f***ing briere an undersized skill player his whole career, is falling into cliches and not looking for real skill.

We can pick potentially like 5-6 NHL quality guys this year. We need big hits.
 
Don’t really think Briere runs anything.

For sure not who they take as the first rounder. There are a lot of voices within the Flyers that have been around longer than him - that carry weight.

No general manager runs the show with this team. I’ll never believe that. Not after Hextall. As our friend Dave Scott always talked about, collaboration is the name of the game.

The Family, and the Bully Brand always have to be considered.

You’ve got a proven moron in Flahr still heavily influencing the scouting, they’ve blown the transmission even before hitting to 3rd gear.
 
I agree you always have to take BPA. However, in a draft like this where there are potentially 4 top line centers, you kind of have to, considering our position. Now if it goes down to O'Brien, Mrtka or Martone, because the draft crumbles a weird way, i'm all for taking Martone or Mrtka way above O'brien
I agree if the BPA is a toss up between players you can then lean to one position vs another. My issue is when, like last year, the BPA is head and shoulders better then the player selected and the excuse is 'well we have three like him already'.
 
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4th would be ideal (outside of winning the lottery) but I think as long as they don’t outside of 6th they should come away with a great player. Centers are desperately needed but Martone or Eklund would be a nice consolation prize. One of those could easily be drafted before the Flyers pick (if at 6) though and a center will fall to us. There could also be a Sennecke type situation but I’m not sure what player it would be

That’s why you need 4th though. Then the worst you finish is 6th if other teams move up.

There’s a Tkachuk comp every year. One of the slowest players in the league but one of the best. Tough combo to replicate.

Oh I heard a funny nugget (I believe Myrtetus mentioned it). Danny and Jonesy are studying Howie Roseman and how he operates. :laugh:

Makes sense in them drafting for need. Football is way easier.

Don’t really think Briere runs anything.

For sure not who they take as the first rounder. There are a lot of voices within the Flyers that have been around longer than him - that carry weight.

No general manager runs the show with this team. I’ll never believe that. Not after Hextall. As our friend Dave Scott always talked about, collaboration is the name of the game.

The Family, and the Bully Brand always have to be considered.

You’ve got a proven moron in Flahr still heavily influencing the scouting, they’ve blown the transmission even before hitting to 3rd gear.

Makes me want them to work within their confines. You can still build a good team with skill that’s hard to play against.
 
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Don’t really think Briere runs anything.

For sure not who they take as the first rounder. There are a lot of voices within the Flyers that have been around longer than him - that carry weight.

No general manager runs the show with this team. I’ll never believe that. Not after Hextall. As our friend Dave Scott always talked about, collaboration is the name of the game.

The Family, and the Bully Brand always have to be considered.

You’ve got a proven moron in Flahr still heavily influencing the scouting, they’ve blown the transmission even before hitting to 3rd gear.
^^^this^^^
 

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