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McQueen has Flyer written all over him. Wonder if they try to move up and have 2 top 8/10 picks. Nashville and Detroit are ripe to trade possibly. What do the Flyers have to offer is the question.
 
BernieParent said:
Ryabkin with the Flyers' own pick would be a massive reach (assuming they don't go on a run and drop out of top 10). I would package a later 1st with one or two 2nds to get him in the late teens, though. If need be, I would package the two 1sts. Ryabkin is the type of swing-for-the-fences pick the Flyers have to try.
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I didnt realize consensus had him so low I just saw him high on smaht scouting and remember liking his film last year. Id definitely package a trade up for him though... flyers going to draft Obrien or Desnoyers though inevitably XD
 
If I were moving up for our 2nd pick, I’d be after on the d in the OHL, Reid or Aitcheson or another center, Kindle from the hitmen. He’s a c/w, not sure how much Center he has played this year.
 
I think only Chicago has been worse the last ~15 games. With the way the Flyers have been getting bent over recently it’s hard to see them winning much to end the season. And let’s save our lottery luck till next year. I’ve very content at 3 or 4 this year
 
Really? Same old discussion again? I thought that the whole 'they are only interested in drafting big boys' talk had already been beaten to death twice on this board. Luchanko, Michkov.... they go for standout skill with the high picks and fall back into bad habits aka size with the complementary mid rounders. Still not smart and not what I'd like to see with the abundance of picks that they have but a different narrative.
 
Gregor Samsa said:
I think only Chicago has been worse the last ~15 games. With the way the Flyers have been getting bent over recently it’s hard to see them winning much to end the season. And let’s save our lottery luck till next year. I’ve very content at 3 or 4 this year
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Actually, over last 15 the Flyers have been worse

Preds = 7-7-1
Sabres = 6-8-1
Sharks = 4-8-3
Hawks = 4-9-2
Flyers = 3-10-2
 
Given the Flyers RW the chance of picking 3rd now is starting to get pretty damn high. Seemed impossible weeks ago, but you dont expect a team to ever have a 2-10-2 streak...

72 points is the 50:50 mark now for 3rd...

Flyers pacing for 73.

3-5-1 gets them 72.

3rd would be a godsend.
4th would also be fantastic.

5th-6th scares me... as I think that is where depending how the board fell they might reach on a C. If they are 4th they surely have to take one of Hagens, Frondell or Martone (doubt they would take Eklund)... and get one of the top players in the draft whatever.

7th? I dont think will pick 7th now unless end up in 6th and lose lottery. 77-78 points is probably 7th and that will take 5-2-2 at a minimum.
 
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Brodeur said:
I do like that Yannetti will do podcasts and he'll leave some fun tidbits. Several years back, I was listening to one where the host asked him about a time when they got sniped on a pick. Yannetti mentioned that the Kings had Connor Hellebuyck earmarked for pick #151 in 2012 (and this was before he established himself as a Vezina guy) but Winnipeg grabbed him at #130. LA would end up taking Connor Miller.

Yannetti wasn't hired by LA until 2007, but a cautionary tale happened in 2006 with LA. Dean Lombardi had just been hired as GM and he inherited a team with a bunch of young forwards but nothing on defense. Lombardi had been on the pro scouting side for the Flyers the previous season, so he didn't have a ton of knowledge about the 2006 draft prospects. He gave the scouts autonomy for their first two picks (Jonathan Bernier / Trevor Lewis) but apparently Lombardi vetoed the scouts who wanted Milan Lucic at #48. Lombardi ordered them to take a defenseman instead (they took Joe Ryan).

A different Kings blogger mentioned that LA's scouts implored Lombardi to trade up for Ryan O'Reilly in 2009 as he was dropping. Apparently a trade up was possible but it required the Kings giving up #35 and Lombardi had already penciled in Kyle Clifford with that pick. I always wondered if forcing the Clifford pick had any relation to passing on Lucic who had a breakout season in 2008-09.

There was a CBA snafu at the end of the 2009 Draft for LA. The scouts wanted to take Radko Gudas with their 7th round pick. The previous year, Martin Jones went undrafted but LA signed him after the draft since there's a window to sign undrafted guys with draft eligibility as long as they had played a season in North America during a draft year. LA's CBA guru Jeff Solomon misunderstood that rule. Gudas was set to play in the WHL in 2009-10 but hadn't yet which meant that he was ineligible to be signed like Jones. Solomon told the table to draft somebody else and incorrectly told them they could target Gudas after the draft. LA had Gudas as a summer camp invite but he'd go in the 3rd round in 2010. Former Kings assistant GM Mike Futa said the scouts would jokingly give Solomon flack about that.

And then LA traded their 2015 1st to get Milan Lucic. Had they kept it, Matt Barzal would have been their pick. At least for me, kinda funny to see Dean Lombardi missing out on O'Reilly/Barzal because he wouldn't let the scouts take Lucic as they wanted in 2006.

Edit: Forgot to mention that the Alex Turcotte pick in 2019 apparently was a Rob Blake decision to overrule the scouts. Not sure who the scouts would have picked but some implication was that they preferred Trevor Zegras.
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Interesting info draft wise since Lombardi is one of our senior advisors.
 
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Tankathon mock (changes daily because standings/draft positions are updated daily):

4- James Hagens
23- Ben Kindel
25- Blake Fiddler
36- Cole McKinney
41- Carter Amico
44- Nathan Behm
48- Eddie Genborg
68- Alexander Zharovsky
 
dats81 said:
Really? Same old discussion again? I thought that the whole 'they are only interested in drafting big boys' talk had already been beaten to death twice on this board. Luchanko, Michkov.... they go for standout skill with the high picks and fall back into bad habits aka size with the complementary mid rounders. Still not smart and not what I'd like to see with the abundance of picks that they have but a different narrative.
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Briere - "Well, when you look at our defense, you have it right. I think Zeev Buium is gonna be a great player, and he's someone we considered strongly. But with Cam York, Jamie Drysdale, Emil Andrae – at some point, it gets tough to go with the smaller guy. But he’s a fantastic player."

Quotes like that are what reflect an outdated mindset on roster construction, especially given the roster churn on a salary cap team. Size continues to be an overly large consideration in their process - not the only one, but it's there,
 
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JojoTheWhale said:
#3 Nashville wins. (.437)

#4 Buffalo wins. (.457)

#5 Flyers lose. (.459)

Gettting there.
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Because of shear incompetence. Not by any design or real plan. That is what’s scary, getting a high pick and thinking these 3 stooges can actually put it together to draft then develop the right players.
 
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Strawberry Fields said:
Tankathon mock (changes daily because standings/draft positions are updated daily):

4- James Hagens
23- Ben Kindel
25- Blake Fiddler
36- Cole McKinney
41- Carter Amico
44- Nathan Behm
48- Eddie Genborg
68- Alexander Zharovsky
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I was bored and ran it just now. Detroit moved up to #1 and we went #2 getting Misa. Has us taking Kindel at 23 and Ryabkin at 25. I’ll take it
 
pit said:
Briere - "Well, when you look at our defense, you have it right. I think Zeev Buium is gonna be a great player, and he's someone we considered strongly. But with Cam York, Jamie Drysdale, Emil Andrae – at some point, it gets tough to go with the smaller guy. But he’s a fantastic player."

Quotes like that are what reflect an outdated mindset on roster construction, especially given the roster churn on a salary cap team. Size continues to be an overly large consideration in their process - not the only one, but it's there,
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That quote is as much a reason to fire Briere as Torts' admission that he is not up to his duties last night was.
 
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