Official 2025 NHL DRAFT Thread

[Appleyard]

Going back to 2005, almost every draft post lock-out has produced a 1C... even if being SUPER harsh with what a 1C is and eliminating everyone who just had like 2-3 years as one (Thompson, Couturier, O'Reilly, Trocheck, Duchene, Barzal, Kyrou, Strome, Hischier, Suzuki, etc):

2005: Crosby, Kopitar
2006: Giroux, Backstrom, Toews
2007: N/A
2008: Stamkos
2009: Tavares
2010: Seguin
2011: Scheifele, Zibanejad, Miller
2012: N/A
2013: MacKinnon, Barkov
2014: Draisaitl, Point, Larkin
2015: McDavid, Aho, Eichel, Hintz
2016: Mathews
2017: Pettersson, Thomas
2018: N/A
2019: Hughes

3 drafts in 15 years where there was no-one who developed into an out and out 1C.
And in terms of 2016-2019 a few guys in those drafts are looking like adding to that list.

So you get around 1.5 1Cs per draft... and this draft actually has more C's who have a profile of "likely to be 75+ point Cs in NHL" than an average draft actually. Even though the draft itself is just "whatever".

 

[BernieParent]

Failing the Flyers winning the lottery or the clubs ahead of them all making massive errors, my ideal outcome would be Frondell and Ryabkin in the 1st round. This would probably require spending draft picks to move up, maybe even for both.

 

[Appleyard]

 

[mize370]

Whats everyones top 6 in order this year?

 

[Appleyard]

 

[BillDineen]

Last game of the season is v the Sabres as well. Could be the 4th last spot is up for grabs. Also, one other Sabres game beforehand

 

[Flyerfan4life]

how far back can they get bumped in the lotto ?

 

[bauer]

Whats everyone’s top 6 in order this year?

My top 10 as of now,

1. Misa (C)
2. Schaefer (D)
3. Hagens (C)

4. Frondell (C)
5. Martone (RW)
6. Desnoyers (C)

7. O’Brien (C)
8. Eklund (LW)

9. McQueen (C)
10. Smith (D)

 

[flyersnorth]

Failing the Flyers winning the lottery or the clubs ahead of them all making massive errors, my ideal outcome would be Frondell and Ryabkin in the 1st round. This would probably require spending draft picks to move up, maybe even for both.

Just saw a mock draft having the Flyers take Desnoyers at #6 (Frondell went at #5 to Seattle), Cameron Schmidt at 22, and Ryabkin at 26.

Do you think Ryabkin would go before 26?

Frondell is likely not going to happen unless the lottery is kind to us (ha!) or they get in the top 5 by just being themselves.

 

[Larry44]

how far back can they get bumped in the lotto ?

I believe only 2 spots. You can only jump 10 spots.

"As a result of Draft Lottery rule changes made effective in 2021, a team may only move up a maximum of 10 spots from their finishing position. That means only the bottom 11 teams have a shot at the No. 1 overall pick."

This Week in the NHL: Can Habs prove they’re a legit playoff threat in East?

It would be great if both Buffalo and Seattle passed them so they could be 4th last. I doubt Nashville is going to go on a tear, but you never know, we could catch 3rd last.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Flyers getting top 4 and possibly higher with the lottery would be wild.

I think the only reason I don't like 1st overall is that they would probably take a D-man. I know you should pick BPA, but holy shit is this team in serious dire need of a 1C.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

So what center prospects have a strong chance of staying at center? It seems every prospect listed as a C gets at least one post of “he’s on the wing in the NHL”.

Part of me says play the odds and just draft all centers with our 1sts and 2nds. Gotta think at least one or two will turn into top 6 C’s

 

[Tarpongg]

The only hope as a Flyer fan is to pick high enough where they can’t screw it up and go off the board

 

[Rebels57]

The only hope as a Flyer fan is to pick high enough where they can’t screw it up and go off the board

Pretty much have to be Top 3 to guarantee they won't screw it up (Hagens, Misa, Schaefer). Once it gets to 4, I can see them going with a player ranked outside the top 10 currently.

 

[BigToe]

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Are you considering dropping him out of your top 3 at this point? That feels like the only discussion that matters?

 

[BigToe]

Are you considering dropping him out of your top 3 at this point? That feels like the only discussion that matters?

I’d still only consider taking Misa over him but I’ve been wrong a lot, bb. Just thought it was interesting that his model is harsh on Hagens.

 

[Rebels57]

Similar to Nolan Patrick. Hagens to Philly confirmed. Next 3 picks after him will all be Hall of Famers.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I’d still only consider taking Misa over him but I’ve been wrong a lot, bb. Just thought it was interesting that his model is harsh on Hagens.

The only people who aren’t wrong a lot are liars and those who don’t take stances. No one is actually good at drafting. Some teams just have logical underlying processes.

In a world where we’re talking about this carcass somehow winning the lottery, I’m almost hesitant to watch these guys because Misa is on a level of production where I think my eye could only screw it up.

 

[FLYguy3911]

I’d still only consider taking Misa over him but I’ve been wrong a lot, bb. Just thought it was interesting that his model is harsh on Hagens.

His model is based on PPG and NHLe which can be tricky with how college scoring varies team-to-team and year-to-year. BC is scoring less than they did last year. Leonard and Perreault are scoring less than last year and I don’t think anyone thinks their prospect status has been impacted negatively.

He’s still got a ~30% involvement in college and was PPG+ at the WJCs as a draft eligible freshman.

Now how much does he benefit from playing with those two is up to the people that watch, but when you factor in he has the all time U18 scoring record and that was as a (older) D-1, that’s still an impressive resume.

 

[FlyerNutter]

I’m just excited for the trade back.

Where they can show their real brain power, and come away with who they wanted the whole time anyway.

Bitch ass strategy for this team. Stop doing that.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

The only hope as a Flyer fan is to pick high enough where they can’t screw it up and go off the board

buckle in..

ps Luchenko says hello...

 

[iceman42]

Pretty much have to be Top 3 to guarantee they won't screw it up (Hagens, Misa, Schaefer).

Flyers "Challenge Accepted!"

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

How soon until Flyers get 1st overall and don't draft Schaefer saying "we already have small defensemen that are playing, so we don't need more," and then proceeds to draft Carter Bear because he's a two-way guy.

Our management has that kind of brain rot that will making picking Patrick look like the right move in comparison.