Offer Sheet for 2c

[Rob Sense]

Pass on both. Horvat is 30 y.o. with 5 more years at 8.5m. Not sure I'd want another center that is getting paid more than Suzuki. It's not fair to our captain.

Lundell is not going anywhere. Florida has no reason to trade him. They have plenty of cap space. They can even resign Bennett to 7-8million if they want to.

i don't think fair should garner much consideration if you want the win the Stanley Cup.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Not an offer sheet but I’ve moved this here as it’s drowning in Demidov.
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I have no idea where to best post this (shouldn’t we have a UFA Thread?)

Pius Suter

He has played increasingly well with more ice time and wingers far less talented than Ivan (and PL). He’s defensively responsible and, fwiw, apparently a good teammate.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/pius-suter-canucks-dilemma

He would be an eminently affordable center if HuGo can’t snag a great 2C via trade or offer sheet.

Discuss.

He has as many points as Pettersson

 

[holy]

I would look internal and sign one of the fans.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Raty I would consider offer sheet. Good on faceoffs, left shot, decent size, speed. Give up a 3rd.

 

[Paradoxe]

Raty I would consider offer sheet. Good on faceoffs, left shot, decent size, speed. Give up a 3rd.

We should go for a splash for Raty + Wallinder so we can add to our depth at RHD and C simultaneously.

 

[OldCraig71]

I would prefer a veteran on a 2 year deal, no more experiments.

 

[salbutera]

I just don’t see how the Habs can conjure a blue-chip 2C by trade, and UFA centers this summer are lacking.

Is there an RFA we could swing for, given the plethora of picks available to give, by overpaying for a center more capable than Dach (perhaps on a cash-strapped team)?

Throw boatloads of $ at Tavares on a 3 yr deal ($14M - $15M AAV) - unless his wife all of a sudden is willing to leave Canada, which was the primary reason he left NYI to sign w Make Beliefs as compelling as the pajama story might be

 

[ChesterNimitz]

i don't think fair should garner much consideration if you want the win the Stanley Cup.

You know the world of professional sport has lost perspective when paying a player $7.875 million annually could be considered an act of unfairness.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I would prefer a veteran on a 2 year deal, no more experiments.

That may well happen with Dvorak, a seasoned veteran who is a player that you know what you will be getting, particularly if other more high profile options become unavailable due to cost considerations.

 

[OldCraig71]

That may well happen with Dvorak, a seasoned veteran who is a player that you know what you will be getting, particularly if other more high profile options become unavailable due to cost considerations.

If that happens, the team won't be able to get better in the short term. Dvorak is a 30-40 point player who is fine for the bottom 6 but lacks the ability to create plays, which would be necessary on a second line.

We need a 50-60 point guy at minimum. Demidov and Laine could put up some good numbers with a player of the caliber of Monahan.

 

[Theodore450]

Not an offer sheet but I’ve moved this here as it’s drowning in Demidov.
….

I have no idea where to best post this (shouldn’t we have a UFA Thread?)

Pius Suter

He has played increasingly well with more ice time and wingers far less talented than Ivan (and PL). He’s defensively responsible and, fwiw, apparently a good teammate.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/pius-suter-canucks-dilemma

He would be an eminently affordable center if HuGo can’t snag a great 2C via trade or offer sheet.

Discuss.

I feel like this is a lateral move to dvorak. But we need to try and jump on something while Demi is in his entry

 

[ChesterNimitz]

If that happens, the team won't be able to get better in the short term. Dvorak is a 30-40 point player who is fine for the bottom 6 but lacks the ability to create plays, which would be necessary on a second line.

We need a 50-60 point guy at minimum. Demidov and Laine could put up some good numbers with a player of the caliber of Monahan.

Maybe. But cap management for this ascending team will quickly become as an essential element to the team's success as talent assessment as Hutson, Demidov and Fowler all look like future stars and will need to be locked up long term at what will be astronomical prices. As teams like Toronto have shown, management of the supporting cast is as important as securing your top end talent. Signing supportive but contributing players like Evans (and perhaps Dvorak) to team friendly contracts will be the real test of Hughes and Co. management acumen.

 

[Captain97]

Minnesota has a bunch of capsace. if you pay Rossi the 9-10 mil per year he's looking for, Wild get four 1st for him

But there are rumors they may move Rossi (for some reason). I think he'd be a great target for a 2C if made available.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

But there are rumors they may move Rossi (for some reason). I think he'd be a great target for a 2C if made available.

He;s looking for 9 to 10 mil which is the reason they may be looking to move him but if they do, they will use him as an upgrade.

 

[CzarDemidov]

You know the world of professional sport has lost perspective when paying a player $7.875 million annually could be considered an act of unfairness.

More money in the sport means more money for the players playing the sport. The best teams (and fanbases) will accept it and embrace it. I’m not convinced by Molson (overall) but he wasn’t too shy about the ridiculous contract structure of some of the big deals we’ve seen given out.

 

[OldCraig71]

Maybe. But cap management for this ascending team will quickly become as an essential element to the team's success as talent assessment as Hutson, Demidov and Fowler all look like future stars and will need to be locked up long term at what will be astronomical prices. As teams like Toronto have shown, management of the supporting cast is as important as securing your top end talent. Signing supportive but contributing players like Evans (and perhaps Dvorak) to team friendly contracts will be the real test of Hughes and Co. management acumen.

I understand what you are saying, but the team needs to get more production from its second line and it won't happen with Newhook or Dvorak.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

He;s looking for 9 to 10 mil which is the reason they may be looking to move him but if they do, they will use him as an upgrade.

Then offer sheet him for that amount on a 5 year deal so we only give a 1st 2nd and 3rd

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Then offer sheet him for that amount on a 5 year deal so we only give a 1st 2nd and 3rd

He's looking for more than a 5 years deal so it will be four 1st round pick . according to the wild beat writer they have offered him the same money around 8 mil for 7 years and he said no. so yean he's not taking 5 years deal.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

The costs of securing a 2nd line centre through Trade/ offer sheet or free agency will be high, if not prohibitive. The team is still not ready for prime time and we need a bridge solution until Hage arrives. I think Dvorak, if he can be signed to team friendly contract, could play a useful role on either the 3rd or 4th lines.

In two years, the target time for this team to compete, many of the aging and less dynamic/productive forwards such as Pezzetta, Armia, Anderson, Gallagher will be gone having been replaced by younger, faster and less expensive prospects. In that transitory period, a cost effective Dvorak, could be a valuable asset.

 

[CHfan1]

Maybe. But cap management for this ascending team will quickly become as an essential element to the team's success as talent assessment as Hutson, Demidov and Fowler all look like future stars and will need to be locked up long term at what will be astronomical prices. As teams like Toronto have shown, management of the supporting cast is as important as securing your top end talent. Signing supportive but contributing players like Evans (and perhaps Dvorak) to team friendly contracts will be the real test of Hughes and Co. management acumen.

I’m not too worried about the cap. The cap is projected to go up to $95.5 million in 2025-26, $104.5 million in 2026-27, and $113.5 million in 2027-28.

Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovsky, Evans, and Guhle are already signed to long term deals, and Laine, Anderson, and Gallagher’s contracts expire close to when Hutson (2026-27), Demidov (2027-28), and Fowler’s (2028-29) non ELC contracts start. Those three contracts alone add $20.7 million in cap room.

Hughes has done a great job managing the cap and has put this team in a position where they can add elite talent without having to worry about going over. In fact I’m interested in seeing how they’ll spend to the cap when it’s $113.5 million. If they do I think it’s going to give them quite an advantage over other teams as I don’t believe as many teams will spend to the cap as compared to now.

 

[ahmedou]

 

[Final Baton]

The costs of securing a 2nd line centre through Trade/ offer sheet or free agency will be high, if not prohibitive. The team is still not ready for prime time and we need a bridge solution until Hage arrives. I think Dvorak, if he can be signed to team friendly contract, could play a useful role on either the 3rd or 4th lines.

In two years, the target time for this team to compete, many of the aging and less dynamic/productive forwards such as Pezzetta, Armia, Anderson, Gallagher will be gone having been replaced by younger, faster and less expensive prospects. In that transitory period, a cost effective Dvorak, could be a valuable asset.

I think the competing starts next year. Plus, we have a lot of picks, team-building wise it's time to deal some of those picks for established players.

Suzuki has entered his prime years, and we can't waste a minute of that.

 

[Ozmodiar]

The costs of securing a 2nd line centre through Trade/ offer sheet or free agency will be high, if not prohibitive. The team is still not ready for prime time and we need a bridge solution until Hage arrives. I think Dvorak, if he can be signed to team friendly contract, could play a useful role on either the 3rd or 4th lines.

In two years, the target time for this team to compete, many of the aging and less dynamic/productive forwards such as Pezzetta, Armia, Anderson, Gallagher will be gone having been replaced by younger, faster and less expensive prospects. In that transitory period, a cost effective Dvorak, could be a valuable asset.

2 years??
They’re in the playoffs now, and Hughes will definitely try to take this team to another level next season. Most likely way to do this is by filling the biggest roster need - 2C.

They’ll have 2 years with Anderson and Gally, then they’ll reload and try again.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Kapanen been playing well since he came back. Good speed, decent size, hands

 

[No More Subban]

Danault with Demidov?

No, thanks.