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He's been a winger for years now. Basically a Laine.
Kadri or Marchessault retained is a better option then another Dach gamble imo
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He's been a winger for years now. Basically a Laine.
Kadri or Marchessault retained is a better option then another Dach gamble imo
No Stamkos has over 700 faceoffs this season, you don't get that by playing wing. He's playing less that's normal, but he's definitely a center.
Edit: I don't see why the Flames would let go of a 30 goals center at this time also...
If you guys want to get someone on the cheap, it just doesn't work at the grade you're aiming.
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He's 75th with 350 FOW so I guess they share but he's playing wing mostly according to Dobber
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It’s also been years since Marchessault played center. I think he played a bit of C his first year in Vegas and has been on the wing since. Four more years at 5.5mil, 34yo, 5’9. Doesn’t make any sense either IMO.
That's PP time? At least it looks like a PP squad to me, and it would make sense for his 700+ faceoffs, not being 1000 like Monahan, if he's used mostly on the PP.
Lets say he's the only option available, do you trade for him?
Don't care who you want I'm not giving up an unprotected first from a team that hasn't yet even made the playoffs especially with McKenna on the line as the 1st overall
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I have a feelin most 1st next year are going to be protected, like we saw with Bedard a couple years ago
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Laine is a lame duck. Whatever is going on in that messed up head isn’t curable by team doctors. As mentioned his 5v5 game is not to be duplicated.
I would try to trade for Bo Horvat or Anton Lundell, either of the would fit well on the second line.
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Pass on both. Horvat is 30 y.o. with 5 more years at 8.5m. Not sure I'd want another center that is getting paid more than Suzuki. It's not fair to our captain.
Lundell is not going anywhere. Florida has no reason to trade him. They have plenty of cap space. They can even resign Bennett to 7-8million if they want to.
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I've been impressed by him for years now, the SC finals gave more reason. He's not offensively great but is a perfect supporting player who keeps pressure on defense and gains possession, can pass and create a play. Perfect companion for two highly talented offensive players with some defense deficiency or inexperience.
And he'd be in obtainable range.
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Correct, that's why Luostarinen would be a more realistic option
But they know his value. So would be difficult either way
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Yeah, he is the guy I would get to replace Armia in the forward corps. The fact that he can also play center helps us too.
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Horvat is literally what Habs need to push our second line to Suzuki's level ...
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He doesn't fit the timeline of the rebuild, I agree.
But this is a moot point, as the Penguins won't trade him unless he asks.
And I've been scouring the league a bit these days thinking about what kind of defenseman we could sign or acquire to offset the loss of Savard, and possible Matheson exit in a year if we don't re-sign him.
I know we already have a LOT of lefties, but if Hutson on the right side remains "a thing", we could theoretically go and try to sign a guy like Gavrikov out of LA.
The guy is a good, big, physical second-pairing, 20 minutes a night type of defenseman that could be available in UFA this year and be a very nice fit for us (aside from him being a leftie).
There are tons of other guys no matter the handedness that I think could really, really improve our team for the foreseeable future.
Our management just needs to find the right one, and not pay too much assets/money/term to get that guy.
We similarly have quite a few options on C as it stands right now, but I think we will need to push harder on that front than on D since we need a true #2 centerman to really anchor the second-line and those don't exactly grow on trees nor are they handed-out in the NHL.
We still have a couple options there though; Tavares, Bennett, Duchene, Horvat, Barzal, and more.
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Stamkos is in a faceoff specialist role and then fading-out to the wing ala Giroux.
Stamkos' days as a center are over and done with, and have been for years now.
O'Reilly won't likely want to be traded to us, and Trotz is treating him the same as if he had a NTC, so he dictates where he goes.
I would love O'Reilly for 2-3 years in Montreal though, he'd be the exact-perfect type of 2C needed to help cement the second-line alongside the arrival of Demidov.
It might even be a higher price than that for the really good ones.
But if we play our cards right, we may be able to profit off of the ONE team in the NHL that is in my opinion truly vulnerable to offersheets this year despite the rising cap.
And that one team ripe for being bent-over backwards is Buffalo.
They have 4 key RFAs to sign for next year, and maybe two other players (to round-out a 23-man roster)+ keeping some capspace open to have breathing room in case of injuries.
All of that with only a little bit under 22M capspace to go.
Thing is, the 4 RFAs they have left to sign all theoretically should/could sign for more than $5M per year on average.
Bowen Byram should get a little over $6M-$7M per season depending on term, Peterka should get between $8M-$9M, Ryan McLeod about $5M a year, and Jack Quinn anywhere from $3M-$5M if the Sabres opt for a shorter or longer-term deal.
In any case, the numbers don't line-up for the Sabres' salary cap compliance if you do the exercise, even if you pick conservative numbers for each contract.
Thing is, with Dahlin making $11M I don't see why Peterka shouldn't be asking for $9M per annum personally, given the upcoming increase in cap and how good he has been the last two years for Buffalo.
And so, barring some type of change on the Sabres' part in the next few months, a team could realistically approach, say, Jack Quinn on July 1st, a very talented winger with an unbelievable shot and underrated grit, and offersheet him for $4.8M over 5 years, losing only a second-round draft pick as a compensation and hand-cuffing the Sabres in that scenario.
Now THAT I see potentially succeeding and leading to a team acquiring a player of strong talent on the cheap, just like St. Louis did last year with Broberg and Holloway.
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The Sabres wanted a roster player, a top 6C...
The exact same thing what the Habs needed.
Montreal didn't have what Buffalo wanted. There was virtually zero chance for K.H. of getting Cozens. You can stop right there lol.
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Pathetic cope. Don't care -- I simply said Cozens would've been a nice addition. Read comments before spouting off a reply, otherwise you can stop right there.
The Aho move could have worked, but they didn’t come in with a high enough average annual salary because they were being cheap with how many 1st it would cost them. They tried to get cute and get them with cash flow. If they had made the contract 2 million more per season, Aho would likely be on our team right now.
