Off Season Thread 2025

[Kat Predator]

We can throw in a few teams (like us this year) for whom the wheels will come off next year.

Keeping the status quo should give us an excellent chance to be right there in the running for McKenna though.

 

[Predsanddead24]

Well and we also just saw proof that you're likely to move down in the draft then you are up.

 

[jumb0]

Sure but Ovie was a different guy that year, and those guys played for him and followed along. If Ovie doesn't flip that switch all the coaching in the world doesn't win that cup.

Listed to Doc Emerick interviewed on Dan Patrick on Tuesday. He told a story that essentially Trotz sat down with Ovie before the season and is the reason Ovie "flipped the switch" and they won the Cup.

 

[ShagDaddy]

One observation I made after thinking about the Trotz presser is there seems to be a major disconnect between Trotz and Brunette. Trotz says all the right things about mixing the youth in to the lineup but the implementation of that theory on the ice is not happening. Trotz said that Brunette is a good young coach and that he wanted to develop him instead of getting rid of him. Brunette doesn’t seem to follow that philosophy with how he coaches the team. If Brunette provided the same grace to the players in regards to their development that Trotz is providing to brunette’s coaching it might not be as hard of a pill to swallow. The disconnect between those two makes Trotz’s comments come across as some crazy BS word salad.

 

[herzausstein]

One observation I made after thinking about the Trotz presser is there seems to be a major disconnect between Trotz and Brunette. Trotz says all the right things about mixing the youth in to the lineup but the implementation of that theory on the ice is not happening. Trotz said that Brunette is a good young coach and that he wanted to develop him instead of getting rid of him. Brunette doesn’t seem to follow that philosophy with how he coaches the team. If Brunette provided the same grace to the players in regards to their development that Trotz is providing to brunette’s coaching it might not be as hard of a pill to swallow. The disconnect between those two makes Trotz’s comments come across as some crazy BS word salad.

Trotz is there to run interference for Bruno so the Fandom doesn't flip out. Bruno is doing what trotz wants or he'd of been fired

 

[nullednumbed]

One observation I made after thinking about the Trotz presser is there seems to be a major disconnect between Trotz and Brunette. Trotz says all the right things about mixing the youth in to the lineup but the implementation of that theory on the ice is not happening. Trotz said that Brunette is a good young coach and that he wanted to develop him instead of getting rid of him. Brunette doesn’t seem to follow that philosophy with how he coaches the team. If Brunette provided the same grace to the players in regards to their development that Trotz is providing to brunette’s coaching it might not be as hard of a pill to swallow. The disconnect between those two makes Trotz’s comments come across as some crazy BS word salad.

27 minutes worth. Insane.

 

[triggrman]

One observation I made after thinking about the Trotz presser is there seems to be a major disconnect between Trotz and Brunette. Trotz says all the right things about mixing the youth in to the lineup but the implementation of that theory on the ice is not happening. Trotz said that Brunette is a good young coach and that he wanted to develop him instead of getting rid of him. Brunette doesn’t seem to follow that philosophy with how he coaches the team. If Brunette provided the same grace to the players in regards to their development that Trotz is providing to brunette’s coaching it might not be as hard of a pill to swallow. The disconnect between those two makes Trotz’s comments come across as some crazy BS word salad.

I mean Trotz did mention that Brunnette needed to do better with in game adjustments and accountability. Some maybe he is address it .

 

[Armourboy]

One observation I made after thinking about the Trotz presser is there seems to be a major disconnect between Trotz and Brunette. Trotz says all the right things about mixing the youth in to the lineup but the implementation of that theory on the ice is not happening. Trotz said that Brunette is a good young coach and that he wanted to develop him instead of getting rid of him. Brunette doesn’t seem to follow that philosophy with how he coaches the team. If Brunette provided the same grace to the players in regards to their development that Trotz is providing to brunette’s coaching it might not be as hard of a pill to swallow. The disconnect between those two makes Trotz’s comments come across as some crazy BS word salad.

It's called being a hypocrite. If he wants Brunette to develop then he needs to be in the AHL just like he expects his players to be.

 

[Mosby]

Utah fan here.

I am curious what the plan is for ROR this summer? I assume he's coming back?

I know at the deadline Trotz had said he was treating ROR as if he has a NTC/NMC clause, and would only consider a deal that had an outstanding return and was a destination ROR would want to go to.

Just wondering if there remains a possibility of a trade or if you folks envision him returning for 2025-26?

 

[Scoresberg]

Utah fan here.

I am curious what the plan is for ROR this summer? I assume he's coming back?

I know at the deadline Trotz had said he was treating ROR as if he has a NTC/NMC clause, and would only consider a deal that had an outstanding return and was a destination ROR would want to go to.

Just wondering if there remains a possibility of a trade or if you folks envision him returning for 2025-26?

I honestly think we could go to several different directions from here. One of them is trading ROR (maybe along with some other "core" guys).

But that imaginary-NMC Trotz has put on ROR means that the price would be HIGH.

 

[PredsV82]

If Trotz is going to be congruent with the bullshit he said at his presser, he thinks we can win eventually with Bruno so I don't expect him to be selling anyone this summer

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Utah fan here.

I am curious what the plan is for ROR this summer? I assume he's coming back?

I know at the deadline Trotz had said he was treating ROR as if he has a NTC/NMC clause, and would only consider a deal that had an outstanding return and was a destination ROR would want to go to.

Just wondering if there remains a possibility of a trade or if you folks envision him returning for 2025-26?

I think the only way ROR gets traded is if he himself has a change of heart and decides he wants out of Nashville. I don't think he'll do that before the 2026 TDL, earliest. It does indeed seem like Trotz is going to treat ROR like he has that NMC. And Trotz wants to win next season, win with ROR, and (for some inexplicable reason) apparently actually thinks the Preds can turn things around immediately and be winners. Even with the roster and coach who couldn't do it last year. Zany, but that's where we are.

So I reckon there isn't too much point in trying to figure out a trade at this point. ROR isn't really available. By the time he might become more available... well, there'll be new data to evaluate his value on.

It's too bad, I suspect Trotz is going to hold onto ROR right up until his value tanks out of some combination of age/decline or ROR asking out to a specific landing spot (like McDonagh). Whereas he had(/has) a pretty good opportunity to "sell high" on ROR right now (or did at last TDL).

 

[ShagDaddy]

Utah fan here.

I am curious what the plan is for ROR this summer? I assume he's coming back?

I know at the deadline Trotz had said he was treating ROR as if he has a NTC/NMC clause, and would only consider a deal that had an outstanding return and was a destination ROR would want to go to.

Just wondering if there remains a possibility of a trade or if you folks envision him returning for 2025-26?

Trotz wanted a young RHD that will eventually be a first pairing guy or a young center that can play top 6 plus a first round pick for O’Reilly. If Armstrong is willing to part with those kind of assets then it might be a possibility.

 

[Armourboy]

Trotz wanted a young RHD that will eventually be a first pairing guy or a young center that can play top 6 plus a first round pick for O’Reilly. If Armstrong is willing to part with those kind of assets then it might be a possibility.

I think the key is the right player coming back more so than the pick. I'd bet he wiggles off the first in that case.

 

[Mosby]

Trotz wanted a young RHD that will eventually be a first pairing guy or a young center that can play top 6 plus a first round pick for O’Reilly. If Armstrong is willing to part with those kind of assets then it might be a possibility.

Fair asking price for ROR, but one I suspect Utah won't pay given ROR's age.

 

[Kat Predator]

Fair asking price for ROR, but one I suspect Utah won't pay given ROR's age.

Marchand only netted a conditional second at the TDL and he's a similar age and veteran leadership sort of player. ROR for a 1st + a guy that's already on track to be a top pairing or top line forward, and then also letting ROR have the final say on where he wants to go, realistically seems like an over ask by Trotz. Take the first or take a very promising prospect from any team willing to offer it, that would've been a nice net return considering ROR had an extra year on his contract.

PS: We don't know that ROR's make-believe NMC would've allowed him to want to be traded to Utah anyway. So even if Utah wanted to be raked over the coals in a trade, ROR could've just caboshed it with his phony NMC.

 

[Armourboy]

Eh I think the NMC is just to tell teams that Trotz isn't just going to sell him to the highest bidder, if they wanted him they had to pay for him. If someone would have offered his price he would have been gone whether ROR liked it or not.

 

[wmupreds]

Fair asking price for ROR, but one I suspect Utah won't pay given ROR's age.

Fair? ROR is 34 and declining, that’s a crazy asking price IMO

 

[Mosby]

Fair? ROR is 34 and declining, that’s a crazy asking price IMO

I dunno, you might be able to get it at the deadline.

In any event, I think the sooner you guys are free of Trotz, the better.