Boston Bruins Off Season Roster/ Cap Discussion II

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Necas was 1 piece of the deal. Lets not act like it was a 1 for 1 swap. Necas is also going into the final year of his deal. If he tells COL he intends to test FA after next season, then Colorado would be foolish to not explore deals for him. Can you imagine if Necas walks for nothing? You think the backlash they got for Rantenen ending their season is bad, imagine what would happen if one of those piece then walked a year later and you had nothing to show for it.

Now lets add to that, Colorado has ~$8 million in cap space, but is only at 18 of 23 spots filled, they need some cap space. You know what the going rate for a guy like Necas is at the TDL and being a pending UFA? History says it a 1st + Prospect if he's having another good season.

COL can get that now + an additional $6.5 million in cap space to work with in the off-season to build their roster out. Poitras can play in the NHL now, so they also get an NHL ready talent that plays center, and as you said has the upside of a 2C.....which they need.

Now am I saying this deal is perfect? No, but the foundation of it is there.

They have other players they can let go of though. Why would they start at the top of their roster? Ross Colton, for example is a guy with value who they could part with who wouldn’t really compromise the quality of their roster.

They definitely have some decisions to make and they won’t be easy ones. Getting Necas under contract however is an easy one.

 

[ON3M4N]

They have other players they can let go of though. Why would they start at the top of their roster? Ross Colton, for example is a guy with value who they could part with who wouldn’t really compromise the quality of their roster.

They definitely have some decisions to make and they won’t be easy ones. Getting Necas under contract however is an easy one.

They could absolutley look at a guy like Ross Colton (who basically a more consistent Trent Frederic) or even Miles Wood. And yes it is an easy decision to want to get Necas under contract......but it takes two in order to make a deal. That's why I said in my post if Necas tells COL that he wants to test FA next after next season.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Barring any trades and using the AFP Anayltics contract projections to pencil in new contracts for the Bruins' RFAs*, the Bruins will seemingly have ~$17M in cap space this off-season to fill in five forward spots and two slots on defense. (22 man roster)

Non-UFA candidates to possibly fill some of the spots?

• Matt Poitras, Fraser Minten, Fabian Lysell, Patrick Brown, Georgi Merkulov, John Farinacci
• Frederic Brunet, Michael Callahan, Ian Mitchell

*I am assuming that they will not re-sign Johnny Beecher.

I keep seeing about how the Bruins have all this cap space this offseason. They don’t.

Significant roster changes would have to take place if they wanted to offer Marner a deal. Let alone Marner PLUS another top six forward. Let alone Marner plus another top six forward and the RD vacancy.

Difficult for me to see free agency as the method they use to really improve the roster this offseason

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

They could absolutley look at a guy like Ross Colton (who basically a more consistent Trent Frederic) or even Miles Wood. And yes it is an easy decision to want to get Necas under contract......but it takes two in order to make a deal. That's why I said in my post if Necas tells COL that he wants to test FA next after next season.

I just think you’re dealing with a massive “if” there. I mean sure, take a swing if he’s on the market. I just don’t see it being realistic that he will be.

 

[ON3M4N]

I just think you’re dealing with a massive “if” there. I mean sure, take a swing if he’s on the market. I just don’t see it being realistic that he will be.

I mean everything we talk about here is basically and "IF" situation. I'm sure Colorado and Necas camp will have talks (maybe already have) to see there is a long term future between the two. Colorado should know going into the NHL draft if Necas is going to be part of the core going forward. If not, they 100% should listen to offers and see what teams are willing to give up.

 

[Bruin4]

I just think you’re dealing with a massive “if” there. I mean sure, take a swing if he’s on the market. I just don’t see it being realistic that he will be.

Colorado is going to do their best to get him re/ upped after trading rantanen for him. McFarland might as well sign his walking papers if he’s not able to get him signed or at the very least get a pretty hefty return.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

I mean everything we talk about here is basically and "IF" situation. I'm sure Colorado and Necas camp will have talks (maybe already have) to see there is a long term future between the two. Colorado should know going into the NHL draft if Necas is going to be part of the core going forward. If not, they 100% should listen to offers and see what teams are willing to give up.

I mean, in another “IF” situation, what if they decide to trade MacKinnon to make cap room? Or if the Oilers feel they need to move Draisaitl to get Bouchard under contract?

 

[Bruin4]

I keep seeing about how the Bruins have all this cap space this offseason. They don’t.

Significant roster changes would have to take place if they wanted to offer Marner a deal. Let alone Marner PLUS another top six forward. Let alone Marner plus another top six forward and the RD vacancy.

Difficult for me to see free agency as the method they use to really improve the roster this offseason

Spot on !
They still have to sign Geekie and Lohrei amoung others. Their Cap space is going to dwindle in a hurry without shipping some out.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Barring any trades and using the AFP Anayltics contract projections to pencil in new contracts for the Bruins' RFAs*, the Bruins will seemingly have ~$17M in cap space this off-season to fill in five forward spots and two slots on defense. (22 man roster)

Non-UFA candidates to possibly fill some of the spots?

• Matt Poitras, Fraser Minten, Fabian Lysell, Patrick Brown, Georgi Merkulov, John Farinacci
• Frederic Brunet, Michael Callahan, Ian Mitchell

*I am assuming that they will not re-sign Johnny Beecher.

These projections are usually more accurate than I think they are, but I'd be pretty leery of giving Geekie that contract.

 

[DiggityDog]

One of my hopes for the offseason is finding a trade partner with interest in Mittelstadt.

Probably not going to happen.

 

[Hookslide]

Necas was 1 piece of the deal. Lets not act like it was a 1 for 1 swap. Necas is also going into the final year of his deal. If he tells COL he intends to test FA after next season, then Colorado would be foolish to not explore deals for him. Can you imagine if Necas walks for nothing? You think the backlash they got for Rantenen ending their season is bad, imagine what would happen if one of those piece then walked a year later and you had nothing to show for it.

Now lets add to that, Colorado has ~$8 million in cap space, but is only at 18 of 23 spots filled, they need some cap space. You know what the going rate for a guy like Necas is at the TDL and being a pending UFA? History says it a 1st + Prospect if he's having another good season.

COL can get that now + an additional $6.5 million in cap space to work with in the off-season to build their roster out. Poitras can play in the NHL now, so they also get an NHL ready talent that plays center, and as you said has the upside of a 2C.....which they need.

Now am I saying this deal is perfect? No, but the foundation of it is there.

I agree with the "foundation" theory, it is a start.

 

[bruins19]

According to my buddy they met and he’s back. He had a hall pass he will be playing 2nd line LW next season gif the Bruins

Now I’m a first generation blamer - my parents were very accountable so not sure what happened - so if I’m wrong I’m ready but I don’t think so

We also need to discuss Martin Necas

He’s at the World Championships with Pasta (watching right now/ Pasta playing and Lauko as well who’s already been in two scrums)

Clearly Pasta will be recruiting him and Necas a UFA after next season like Eichel

Necas did not have a great first round with Colorado and got shown up by the guy he was traded for - Rantanen. He got accused of playing peripheral

Breaking: Pastrnak just stopped on a penalty shot

Be curious what the Avs offer

Enjoying your news on Marchy. He almost scored a shorty just now in a 3-3 tie. Great play.

 

[DKH]

Enjoying your news on Marchy. He almost scored a shorty just now in a 3-3 tie. Great play.

I’ll be taking credit if he signs if not I’ll throw a friend under the bus

He hasn’t looked this good since 23

 

[NeelyDan]

Is it possible the Chara/Bergy era was collectively such an amazing roster and time to be a bruins fan that anything going forward will pale in comparison

Happy Friday

 

[Oates2Neely]

One of my hopes for the offseason is finding a trade partner with interest in Mittelstadt.

Probably not going to happen.

Does he hold any value?

 

[pucksindeep92]

 

[22Brad Park]

Enjoying your news on Marchy. He almost scored a shorty just now in a 3-3 tie. Great play.

He just cost the game tying goal.I would not waste no cap on him because it's a backwards move for Bruins at this stage.He needs to be close to the net now to be effective with how slow he has become.Father time waits for nobody.

 

[bruins19]

He just cost the game tying goal.I would not waste no cap on him because it's a backwards move for Bruins at this stage.He needs to be close to the net now to be effective with how slow he has become.Father time waits for nobody.

He just scored the overtime game-winning goal that prevented the Panthers from going down three nothing and potentially losing us the draft pick. Father time may be catching him, but not tonight.

 

[pucksindeep92]

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One of my hopes for the offseason is finding a trade partner with interest in Mittelstadt.

Probably not going to happen.

There are teams out there that would love to have a middle 6 center. Teams know he’s got potential and is young. Also has two years left in his contract with no protections so he’s an easy asset to move in that sense. He played with tweeners here after the deadline, not actual NHL capable linemates on a team with only downward momentum and no system. He is your best chance at creating meaningful cap space, even if it’s for futures, teams could do worse.

 

[SonnyBoy]

The bottom line for me on Marchand is if your bringing him back here as the 2nd most important forward behind Pastrnak then its a waste of time and cap space. You're not winning jack with 37-year old Brad Marchand as your 2nd best/most important forward. Same story as a year ago with a 36-year old Brad Marchand.

Last three playoffs :
Marchand 25 gp 31 P
Pasta 27 gp 19 P

Seem to be that your 2nd most important player are doing allright.
Your most important player is more of a problem.

 

[Ozzy Osbourne]

Is it possible the Chara/Bergy era was collectively such an amazing roster and time to be a bruins fan that anything going forward will pale in comparison

Happy Friday

I know what you’re saying, but they only won one cup and that was due to Tim Thomas. The team from 08-14 was exciting, tough as nails and a fun team to watch. Then, here comes Don Sweeney to systematically dismantle the team in a decade of incompetence which, amazingly is allowed to continue to this day.
Yeah, the Sweeney era pales in comparison.

 

[DKH]

I know what you’re saying, but they only won one cup and that was due to Tim Thomas. The team from 08-14 was exciting, tough as nails and a fun team to watch. Then, here comes Don Sweeney to systematically dismantle the team in a decade of incompetence which, amazingly is allowed to continue to this day.
Yeah, the Sweeney era pales in comparison.

Team won multiple presidents trophies set an all time record and got to game 7 of Finals they win 8.5 times out of 10

I have a different definition of the Sweeney era than 80 % of Bruins followers or fans (snicker) but hockey is my third sport

I’ll see where we are July 4 …..officially less than 8 weeks away

 

[Ozzy Osbourne]

Team won multiple presidents trophies set an all time record and got to game 7 of Finals they win 8.5 times out of 10

I have a different definition of the Sweeney era than 80 % of Bruins followers or fans (snicker) but hockey is my third sport

I’ll see where we are July 4 …..officially less than 8 weeks away

As truly exciting as those presidents trophies are I only count cup wins. One cup win in over 50 years and that cup was Peter Chiarelli and Tim Thomas. The toughness of the Chiarelli era was great. Too bad we abandoned it over the last decade.

Yeah, let’s see where we are on July 4th.

 

[DKH]

As truly exciting as those presidents trophies are I only count cup wins. One cup win in over 50 years and that cup was Peter Chiarelli and Tim Thomas. The toughness of the Chiarelli era was great. Too bad we abandoned it over the last decade.

Yeah, let’s see where we are on July 4th.

The Bruins regularly are near the top in fights and this season had the biggest team ever assembled

Cam is a Neanderthal like myself I’m sure toughness mstters

July 4 we can all access lol

 

[Ozzy Osbourne]

The Bruins regularly are near the top in fights and this season had the biggest team ever assembled

Cam is a Neanderthal like myself I’m sure toughness mstters

July 4 we can all access lol

Yeah, but big players like Coyle and Carlo shouldn’t count seeing as they play like they’re less than five feet.

I take it you feel like we’re going to add some toughness through free agency? Yeah, July 4th we will rejoice.