Obscure hockey facts/stats (Part 2)

[Crosby2010]

Feel free to fact check this, I know I am myself. But Toews, Kane, Kopitar and Crosby have won 11 Cups combined before any of them turned 30. But two playoff rounds combined - the same round in 2020 by Toews and Kane - after 30.

 

[Yozhik v tumane]

Feel free to fact check this, I know I am myself. But Toews, Kane, Kopitar and Crosby have won 11 Cups combined before any of them turned 30. But two playoff rounds combined - the same round in 2020 by Toews and Kane - after 30.

Crosby had turned 30 in 2018, when they (finally) lost to the Caps in the 2nd rd.

 

[The Panther]

A statistical oddity about 'Stumpy' Steve Thomas: He scored fewer than 500 career goals (421, to be exact), yet scored 110 or more goals with THREE different franchises.

I can't imagine too many NHL-ers have done that overall, but would anybody else have done so who scored less than 500?

EDIT: I already found one! Pierre Larouche actually did this also, and his career goals are actually lower than Thomas, at 395.

 

[The Panther]

Just another interesting oddity: In a couple of the Edmonton Oilers' recent games, their 4th line has consisted of Perry, Henrique, and Skinner. This is perhaps a unique 4th line in that it has scored over 1000 NHL goals in sum.

 

[Crosby2010]

Crosby had turned 30 in 2018, when they (finally) lost to the Caps in the 2nd rd.

Perhaps it is over 30 then.

 

[carjackmalone]

Just another interesting oddity: In a couple of the Edmonton Oilers' recent games, their 4th line has consisted of Perry, Henrique, and Skinner. This is perhaps a unique 4th line in that it has scored over 1000 NHL goals in sum.

Howe Hull and Keon is the greatest 4th line ever

 

[frisco]

I'm sure someone mentioned this but I can't find it. Anyway, Mike Knuble is the only player to be teammates with both Gretzky and Ovechkin.

Crosby is 9th in all-time scoring. All eight players above him played at least part of their career in the 1980's.

My Best-Carey

 

[The Panther]

I'm sure someone mentioned this but I can't find it. Anyway, Mike Knuble is the only player to be teammates with both Gretzky and Ovechkin.

That's interesting. I believe Manny Malhotra was the youngest player to be an NHL teammate of Gretzky's (he is 8 years younger than Knuble and last played in 2015).

I could be wrong, but is Gary Unger not the only player to have been NHL teammates of both Gordie Howe and Wayne Gretzky? (Tom Webster was a teammate of Howe's and then coached Gretzky.)

Crosby is 9th in all-time scoring. All eight players above him played at least part of their career in the 1980's.

My Best-Carey

It's another impressive feat of greatness and longevity for Crosby. That being said, we all know that scoring was hard in the 1950s and 1960s and also that seasons before WWII were much shorter. Given that seasons were of comparable length to today only from the early 1970s onward (and really only Boston was scoring in huge amounts back then), and that the higher-scoring period was the late-1970s to early-1990s, it stands to reason that most of the highest point "totalers" will have careers that bordered on that era.

(As we also know, Howe would still be well ahead of Crosby if he hadn't played his 40 games or whatever in the 1980s! And, did not Jagr not play his entire career in the 1990s onward...?)

 

[jigglysquishy]

Ya Jagr never played an NHL game in the 80s so the trivia loses him. Howe was 43 when Jagr was born so they're hardly of the same era.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I'm sure someone mentioned this but I can't find it. Anyway, Mike Knuble is the only player to be teammates with both Gretzky and Ovechkin.

Good timing — there was just an article about this. Pretty good read for the quotes from Knuble.

'I get to be one of the funny trivia answers!' Meet the only NHL teammate of Ovechkin and Gretzky

With Ovi set to break Gretzky's career goals record, many comparisons have been drawn between them. But only one man can say he was a teammate of both.

www.espn.com

 

[frisco]

And, did not Jagr not play his entire career in the 1990s onward...?)

Ya Jagr never played an NHL game in the 80s so the trivia loses him. Howe was 43 when Jagr was born so they're hardly of the same era.

Totally missed on Jagr who started in 1990. Considering he's my favorite player you'd think it would not have got by me.

BTW, both 10th (Sakic) and 11th (Espo) also played in the 80's.

My Best-Carey

 

[FerrisRox]

I could be wrong, but is Gary Unger not the only player to have been NHL teammates of both Gordie Howe and Wayne Gretzky? (Tom Webster was a teammate of Howe's and then coached Gretzky.)

I thought Nick Fotiu, but he joined the Oilers after Gretz had left.

What about Jeff Brubaker? He played 3 games with Howe in '79-80 and he suited up for 4 games with the '85-86 Oilers with Gretzky. Mike Rogers also did it. Played with Howe and Gretzky on the same two teams at the same times as Brubaker.

 

[seventieslord]

I thought Nick Fotiu, but he joined the Oilers after Gretz had left.

What about Jeff Brubaker? He played 3 games with Howe in '79-80 and he suited up for 4 games with the '85-86 Oilers with Gretzky. Mike Rogers also did it. Played with Howe and Gretzky on the same two teams at the same times as Brubaker.

Yeah, I figured there had to be a few from the 79-80 Whalers; I was about to factcheck this one myself.

 

[dr robbie]

There are 5 active players in the top 50 of NHL career points.

4 of these 5 active players have only played for 1 team (Crosby, Ovi, Malkin, Kopitar) - 80%

Out of the other 45 non-active players on the list, this is only true for 7 of them (Yzerman, Lemieux, Mikita, Perreault, Delvecchio, Beliveau, and Clark) - 15.5%

 

[Hockey Outsider]

There are 5 active players in the top 50 of NHL career points.

4 of these 5 active players have only played for 1 team (Crosby, Ovi, Malkin, Kopitar) - 80%

Out of the other 45 non-active players on the list, this is only true for 7 of them (Yzerman, Lemieux, Mikita, Perreault, Delvecchio, Beliveau, and Clark) - 15.5%

Plus (arguably) Sakic - though it depends on if you're talking about one team vs one franchise

 

[vaspa]

Another weird generation stretching fact is that there are still active players who have played NHL games against WHA players. Namely M.A. Fleury and Brent Burns against Messier in the 03-04 season before the lockout.

Fleury is also the last goalie to have ties in his record with Craig Anderson being the second to last before retiring. Ties probably seem like quite a recent thing to us old timers in this sub forum, but the WHA seems like a long time ago in a very different era.