Obscure hockey facts/stats (Part 2)

This might warrant a separate thread at some point, but it's interesting to observe that, nowadays, star players are recording far more empty-net points than ever before. It's presumably due to coaches pulling goalies earlier, and star forwards get more ice time in these situations.

Through the end of the Original Six era (ie the 1966-67 season), only seven players in all of NHL history had reached 10 empty net points. (We're 60-something games into the 2024-25 season, and we already have four players who reached double digits). Howe was the all-time leader with 16 EN points. We might see someone reach 16 EN points this season.

Prior to absorbing the WHA (ie the 1978-79 season), Beliveau was the all-time leader with just 22 EN points. Howe, Mahovlich and Dionne were the only other players over 20.

While this doesn't really affect the overall point of your post, it's worth noting that recording of empty-net points prior to the 1960's is unreliable and spotty at best. Take this game for example:


Maurice Richard is not accounted for any empty-net goals for that game (or for that whole season either).

However, if you look at periodical newspaper article, this is what it says about the game:

"The score indicated a one-sided game but the contest definitely was far from that, until the final minute. Then with the Ranger goalie, Jim Henry, on the sidelines, the sharp-eyed Richard banged two long shots into the empty net to put the game completely out of reach of the Blue Shirts."


That's far from the only occasion of such error of accounting empty-net goals by the NHL prior to 1960's. So players like Richard, Howe and Beliveau actually have more empty-net points than their stat totals show.
 
Goals by linemates 56 years apart.

Jaromir Jagr scored his last goal in the Czech league (Extraliga) on February 2, 2025.
He assisted on Milan Novy's goal in the Czechoslovakian league on January 24, 1989.
Milan Novy in turn scored his first league goal on January 18, 1969.

Former linemates
Novy-Jagr.jpeg
 
Liiga season finished yesterday and Atro Leppänen won the scoring race with 63 points in 60 games. And he's a defenseman.

Who was the latest D leading scorer in the major pro leagues (feel free to use whatever definition you have, but I was thinking NHL, AHL, KHL, top 5-7 european leagues etc.)
 
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Does anyone find the top goal-scorers this (2024-25) season kind of 'meh' (aside from Leon Draisaitl)?

Through about 66 games per club (give or take), Draisaitl has 49 goals and is pacing for 61 goals. Nothing shocking about the top guy's totals. But what's odd is that the #2 guy in the League (Nylander) has only 37 goals, meaning he's pacing for 46. Draisaitl currently has a 12-goal lead, with only sixteen games left.

I was curious about this, so I looked at past seasons. The last time any NHL player was 12 or more goals ahead of the #2 guy at this point in a season was... 1991-92, when Brett Hull had 66 and Roenick 47 (give or take, based on exact games played). It's been 33 years since a player was this far ahead in goals at this point in the season.

(Bure likely would have been about 13 goals ahead of #2 Owen Nolan, at this point in the season, if he hadn't missed some games during 1999-2000.)

(Neely almost surely would have been more than 12 goals ahead of #2 Fedorov / Sheppard if he hadn't stopped played after 44 games in 1993-94.)

(Mogilny possibly would have been 12 or more goals ahead of Selanne if he hadn't missed 7 or so games by this point in 1992-93. Then again, Mario would have been ahead of Mogilny if he hadn't missed 20+ games by this point.)
 
Does anyone find the top goal-scorers this (2024-25) season kind of 'meh' (aside from Leon Draisaitl)?

Through about 66 games per club (give or take), Draisaitl has 49 goals and is pacing for 61 goals. Nothing shocking about the top guy's totals. But what's odd is that the #2 guy in the League (Nylander) has only 37 goals, meaning he's pacing for 46. Draisaitl currently has a 12-goal lead, with only sixteen games left.

I was curious about this, so I looked at past seasons. The last time any NHL player was 12 or more goals ahead of the #2 guy at this point in a season was... 1991-92, when Brett Hull had 66 and Roenick 47 (give or take, based on exact games played). It's been 33 years since a player was this far ahead in goals at this point in the season.

(Bure likely would have been about 13 goals ahead of #2 Owen Nolan, at this point in the season, if he hadn't missed some games during 1999-2000.)

(Neely almost surely would have been more than 12 goals ahead of #2 Fedorov / Sheppard if he hadn't stopped played after 44 games in 1993-94.)

(Mogilny possibly would have been 12 or more goals ahead of Selanne if he hadn't missed 7 or so games by this point in 1992-93. Then again, Mario would have been ahead of Mogilny if he hadn't missed 20+ games by this point.)
12 goals between Drai and Nylander. If you go 12 goals from Nylander, you are looking at guys like Aho, Duchene, Huberdeau, Forsberg, Toffoli and others with 25 goals, good enough to be T-34th in goal scoring.
 
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Liiga season finished yesterday and Atro Leppänen won the scoring race with 63 points in 60 games. And he's a defenseman.

Who was the latest D leading scorer in the major pro leagues (feel free to use whatever definition you have, but I was thinking NHL, AHL, KHL, top 5-7 european leagues etc.)

I’m not sure there’s been one in the SHL. First thought was Kodie Curran, but he finished 2nd, 5 points behind the leader, with 49 points in 2019-20. David Rundblad finished 3rd in 2010-11, Jonathan Pudas, Jesse Virtanen, David Petrasek each finished 4th once. Then I have to go all the way back to the 80s to find defensemen in the top 5 or 10 (Magnus Svensson, Anders Eldebrink, Peter Loob), and eventually I found a season with two top 5 scoring defensemen: 1978-79 featured Mats Waltin 2nd (47 points in 42 GP) and Göran Lindblom 4th (43 points in 36 GP). Anders Kallur led the SEL with 51 points that season.

1975-76 marked the start of the professionalization of Swedish hockey with the top division being named Elitserien/the Swedish Elite League (SEL). The top flight was called Division 1 prior, and I’m not sure how reliable the stat keeping (looking at Eliteprospects) are as I’m getting into the 1960s… but I don’t think sometimes defenseman Eilert Määttä was playing D when he apparently co-led the top flight in scoring with 32 goals in 1962-63. He probably wasn’t playing D that year, and his identical statline to Nils Nilsson raises suspicion the numbers are off. I’m quite sure there never was a defenseman leading the Swedish league in scoring, at least it hasn’t happened since hockey “turned professional”.

But there have been #1 defensemen leading top teams in scoring the last few years, including Jonathan Pudas (Skellefteå) and Joel Persson (Växjö). My Luleå had two defensemen, Erik Gustafsson and Nils Lundkvist, 1st and 2nd in team scoring in 2019-20 prior to covid-19 canceling playoffs, on the by far best team in the regular season. I think we’re currently in an era where it’s not entirely unlikely a defenseman could lead the league in scoring. It takes a talented allround #1 defenseman on a deep team, but we’ve had several of that sort in recent years.
 
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