Confirmed Trade: [NYR/VAN] JT Miller, Erik Brannstrom, Jackson Dorrington for Filip Chytil, Victor Mancini, 2025 1st round pick (top 13 protected)

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I think the Rangers are probably going to be better next year than this year. I'm betting this is just an off year for them and guys like Zibanejad bounce back next year.

I don't think their upside is that high but I think they'll be a fairly safe playoff team next year. They're going to have a lot of cap space this off-season, just because the cap is going to be going up a lot.

Ya, that's fair. The Metro is the most random division year to year so that makes sense.

Teams always have ways. It’s just going to be shady

It's just not possible to make Zibanejad disappear

 

[Three On Zero]

Ya, that's fair. The Metro is the most random division year to year so that makes sense.



It's just not possible to make Zibanejad disappear

We will see, I think they can if they want to bad enough.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

They still have 2-3 excellent years with Miller at his prime. Some small changes and they’ll turn things around

Panarin turns 34 this year, Zibanejad turns 32 and is on pace for his worst season as a Ranger by far, even JT will be turning 32 soon - they don't have all that long realistically.

That Will Borgen contract is straight up horrible (He just signed a deal that already looks like an albatross), Lindgren is a UFA mercifully at the end of this year, he's been really bad as well, Braden Schneider has not remotely developed how he looked he would, K'Andre Miller has regressed pretty heavily this season, Zibanejad is playing at a level that he probably should be making half of what he's making right now, Kreider is 33 and has also regressed heavily, LaFreniere needs to take a step forward or his contract is going to look like an albatross as well (How long can you continue saying the jury is out on him when he is now in year 5 and on pace for 49 points when he should be in his prime).

FWIW, I want nothing but the best for JT - guy played his heart out for us (And now we don't have any vested interest in the Rangers' success/failure), but the Rangers situation is pretty bleak and needs some major surgery.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Ya, that's fair. The Metro is the most random division year to year so that makes sense.



It's just not possible to make Zibanejad disappear

i know a couple a guys

 

[Phrasing]

I hope Miller wins the cup and conn smythe.

 

[gritdash60]

For sure, it will be much funnier in NY than it was in Vancouver

NYR management really shit the bed for not getting D'Angelo as well, would've been perfect!

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Oh no, east coast hot take merchant Sid Seixerio doesn't like the deal? I guess we're doomed.

By the way, I'm not expecting Petey to suddenly be the petey of two years ago. That will require an off season to heal and train properly.

But last game he played well, created chances, and single handedly prevented two different 5 alarm chances with his backchecking and anticipation.

I doubt Sid watched the game, and if he had I have no confidence he would have known what he was seeing.

 

[HolyGhost]

In 20 years when people look back on this deal, they will forget just how much mayhem there was around Miler/Pettersson/Canucks that lead up to this trade.
Vancouver has lost the deal but gained calm in the dressing room and the media no longer have anything to talk about

 

[Icebreakers]

In 20 years when people look back on this deal, they will forget just how much mayhem there was around Miler/Pettersson/Canucks that lead up to this trade.
Vancouver has lost the deal but gained calm in the dressing room and the media no longer have anything to talk about

They have Pettersson to talk about now.

 

[Rowlet]

In 20 years when people look back on this deal, they will forget just how much mayhem there was around Miler/Pettersson/Canucks that lead up to this trade.
Vancouver has lost the deal but gained calm in the dressing room and the media no longer have anything to talk about

Even now people seem to have forgotten.

The Canucks moved a locker room issue for the best defenseman on the market and a replacement 2.5C, when you remember that all their stars hated each other all year, it's a pretty good result.

 

[Zaddy91]

What's kinda funny about this deal and the Pettersson deal was that I jokingly threw out a 3-way trade in one of the last Miller threads.

Rumor: Post in thread 'Just Kidding! Pettersson and JT Miller Trade Reunion!'

Wednesday at 12:47 PM

For shits and giggles, let's do a 3-way trade:

Rangers get Miller and Glass
Penguins get Zibanejad and NYR's lottery protected 1st
Canucks get Chytil and Pettersson

Fairly close cap swaps, with the Penguins adding roughly $2 million while the Rangers are saving roughly $2 million. I don't think this would just be the deal, I think there would need to be picks and prospects added on to even out the value. But generally something like this.

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It's funny that it ended up being fairly close to this. Canucks got Chytil and Pettersson, Penguins got the Rangers 1st and the Rangers got Miller.

Nice call. Spot on.

 

[JKG33]

Not surprising in the least. I'd be pissed to if my team traded away one of the best players in the league to keep an overpaid whiny bitch

 

[nuxnux1]

Not surprising in the least. I'd be pissed to if my team traded away one of the best players in the league to keep an overpaid whiny bitch

He’s a notorious shit disturber and it’s an easy thing to tweet to get clicks lol

 

[JKG33]

He’s a notorious shit disturber and it’s an easy thing to tweet to get clicks lol

Seravalli? The guy who's constantly breaking news? Lmao

 

[jay from jersey]

Here’s my estimate of the situation…. And this coming from a fan that didn’t want miller for a 2nd stint in NYR….

I don’t absolutely hate the deal….. NYR is just in a down year.. I can list all the reasons why in depth, but long and the short of it is key players underperforming and leadership that has stagnated/not delivered from the core group of vets…..
Goodrow/trouba Situations since offseason have been feastering/infecting the room and core… that’s why you don’t let things like that go on for that long….. it snowballs into other things (kakko situation and trade/Kreider rumors/ Lindgren being a UFA etc etc) there’s much much more but that has to do for now.
The team has been due for a real down/off year, but the erosion of effort, identity, and hard work from just 1 season ago has been staggering…
There sorely needs to be a changing of the guard in regards to leadership and the (older core) guys…..

Now as far as the trade goes, NYR obviously got the best most talented piece but considering his age, contract, and NMC I think VAN got about what I expected.
The best news for them is that they avoided adding a major $$ contract with term in a return….ex Zibby.
Now they can allocate more funds anywhere with the cap also going up….
Mancinni is a big body and a good young D man… he has a solid wrist shot, skates really well, and has pretty good vision…
He did well in his call up to fill in for injury earlier this year…. Most NYR fans along with myself were pleased with his development and play since having a solid camp…. He’s def going to be an NHL D man…. Where he tops out is still a question…. He is still young and raw, but the size/talent/skating is there. Anyone can see it… he needs to play a lot more minutes and keep devolving… imo, he’ll at least be a solid 3rd pair guy, but has the tools to be a real solid unremarkable 3-4/middle pair solid defender in the mold of a Brady Skjei or Josh Manson type of guy…
He’s no punk, but not an overly physical guy either. Real good skater for being a big kid.
Chytil has talent no doubt… but if you count on him to be healthy for an entire season or playoff run, he’s going to disappoint…..
He’ll rip of a 10-15 game clip where you think this kid is really freaking good. Cause his is. Good shot, big body, good skater, solid defensive play,etc….
Then a nothing hit will put him on IR for 20-30 games and he comes back slow and a bit more cautious…. He works himself back to being solid and producing again, then rinse/repeat goes on IR for another 15-20 games.. it’s a shame. Real talented nice kid, but he’s 1 more bad concussion away from retirement.
1st top/13 Protected, self explanatory.

Miller is a damn good hockey player and developed into 1 of the better 2-way centers in the NHL currently. He’s also turned into a respected leader in the locker room.
I know he’s certainly developed since being dealt, and having a wife and kids along with his age makes me less concerned about him over indulging in NY nightlife and amenities. If NYR can get 2-3 solid more years from miller being a 85-100pt C, this is a home run for them….
That type of player costs a ton in FA or in trade, and even then the target has some sort of issue usually. Whether it be injury related, talent related, or off ice whatever.
Getting a 2-way C that plays abrasive hockey and delivers in postseason for what NYR gave up is a no brainer tbh… even if they are sellers come this years TDL… and they should be…..
as far as contracts go, I’m more comfortable with millers to Zibbys.
JT can still be a force at 34-35 years old, but we shall wait and see….
I’m coming more around to the deal since miller is proven, a more mature stable family man, and a leader….
A huge reason is he is BFF with trochek since they were 9 years old….
Tro is an absolute great player on and off the ice… one of the best NYR UFA signings in recent memory….
He frankly should have a letter on his jersey… guy gives 100% effort all the time…. Having miller come back and having Tro here makes me feel a lot better…
Hopefully 1 feeds off the other and creates that needed culture change….
NYR would love to move Zibby this year or offseason, but I doubt it happens. NMC with his worst stat year along with contract amount/length…. It very unlikely…. At least for the next year or 2, maybe then but who knows….
Miller allows Zibby to slide down the lineup and not go against teams #1 lines. Hopefully lets him get going more….
Miller-Tro-Zibby-carrack is a pretty solid vet 4…..
Miller also plays with edge…. In many ways I see a lot of comps between young miller/ laffy’s games and similar ages.
that should be really advantageous for Laf to soak up the practices/tricks or trade/ experience etc miller can show Laf and help him keep developing.

Imo, you’ll see the true impact of this trade (NYR wise) at the start of next season when some more current guys are traded/gone and miller becomes a key part in the locker room leadership culture change.

 

[nuxnux1]

Not surprising in the least. I'd be pissed to if my team traded away one of the best players in the league to keep an overpaid whiny bitc

Seravalli? The guy who's constantly breaking news? Lmao

Yes seravalli, notorious Canuck hater like yourself

 

[Machinehead]

We yeet the Chyt

 

[Pablo El Perro]

Some of y'all have me questioning how many cups JT has carried teams to.

 

[Coffee]

Yes seravalli, notorious Canuck hater like yourself

Hey now, say what you want but dont call him a Canucks hater, he's not one. .. right @JKG33 ?

 

[JKG33]

Hey now, say what you want but dont call him a Canucks hater, he's not one. .. right @JKG33 ?

I wasn't before, but now that they yeeted Miller to keep baby Petey.. yea they're dead to me