Proposal: NYR/VAN/BUF

[Chainshot]

Take out the 2nd or Kulich.

They still get screwed.

 

[Djp]

Canucks: Byram, Chytil

Buffalo: Schneider

NYR: JT Miller, Kulich, BUF 2nd

Kulich alone is worth Schneider+

 

[Djp]

You honestly believe that Byram is worth so much more than K'Andre Miller that the Rangers would have to include Kreider, Chytil and Othmann to make it fair? I don't place any value on Hoglander or Forbort, so don't bother mentioning them. I wouldn't trade any of the listed Ranger players for them.

If you truly believe that, you must be some combination of drunk, stoned, and really bad at evaluating players.

Byram is a LD. Yes he is worth more than Miller based on contract and recent play and age difference.

They have depth at LD.if they trade him it’s for a forward or a RD, if they get back a F, thdy likely trade F for a RD in another trade

Byram has young 2/3 value not spare part value

 

[toddkaz]

What the Rangers are giving up in that proposed deal is more than what was reportedly offered straight up for Miller. Instead of Lindgren, they are trading 2 decent (not great, but decent) prospects. I'd much rather trade Lindgren.

This is ridiculous. Byram doesn't have that kind of value, and the Rangers aren't giving up 3 roster players and one of their best prospects for Miller and some garbage.

If Byram had that kind of value, Buffalo would keep him and trade one of their other LD for a RD.

Isn't Buffalo keeping him? Did he get traded? Did I mess something here?

Canucks: Byram, Chytil

Buffalo: Schneider

NYR: JT Miller, Kulich, BUF 2nd

This is worse than the opening poster's proposal.

Kulich, Byram and a 2nd for Scheider? Come on man.

 

[Mattilaus]

So Buffalo just bends over to do a favour for Van and NYR......why?

This is the worst attempt at an honest proposal I have seen in quite some time.

 

[Jimmybarndoor2]

Take out Buffalo
Make the trade only between Vancouver and the rangers

Bryan > Schneider
Which is all the Sabres are getting and they throw in kulich and a 2 rounder. Cmon

 

[GAGLine]

Isn't Buffalo keeping him? Did he get traded? Did I mess something here?

I was responding to the insane deal proposed earlier in the thread.

 

[canadianmagpie]

As a Canuck fan, I'd do it. However, even I can see that sucks for Buffalo.

 

[M2Beezy]

NYR get: JT Miller
VAN gets: Bowen Byram, Filip Chytil
BUF gets: Adam Sykora, Victor Mancini, NYR top 10 protected first

I like this idea for NYR and Vancouver, but as some posters mentioned its not great for Buffalo as they want NHL ready players. Perhaps this is more balanced:

To NYR: JT Miller, Kunz, 2025 Buff 4th, Van 2026 5th
To Vancouver: Byram, Chytil, 2025 Buff 3rd, 2026 NYR 3rd
To Buff: Sykora, Hoglander, K Miller, Desharnais, 2025 NYR 2nd, 2028 Van 6th

 

[Fjordy]

I like this idea for NYR and Vancouver, but as some posters mentioned its not great for Buffalo as they want NHL ready players. Perhaps this is more balanced:

To NYR: JT Miller, Kunz, 2025 Buff 4th, Van 2026 5th
To Vancouver: Byram, Chytil, 2025 Buff 3rd, 2026 NYR 3rd
To Buff: Sykora, Hoglander, K Miller, Desharnais, 2025 NYR 2nd, 2028 Van 6th

But that doesn't do much for us either, we're basically just trading Byram for K. Miller. We don't really need Desharnais, Hoglander probably isn't worth much, and he might not even be the type of player we need right now.

I think if we trade Byram, we'll look for some other players to return.

 

[wetcoast]

You honestly believe that Byram is worth so much more than K'Andre Miller that the Rangers would have to include Kreider, Chytil and Othmann to make it fair? I don't place any value on Hoglander or Forbort, so don't bother mentioning them. I wouldn't trade any of the listed Ranger players for them.

If you truly believe that, you must be some combination of drunk, stoned, and really bad at evaluating players.

Bryam, given his age and his actual play is the best player here and Krieder given his age and contract isn't worth nearly as much as you think.

Forbort has no value and Hoglander not much at all but Chytil at this point is just a guy and Othmann is kind of buried in your system so not worth much either.

This trade is typical HF in that one team gets way more than they are giving up.

 

[is the answer jesus]

I like this idea for NYR and Vancouver, but as some posters mentioned its not great for Buffalo as they want NHL ready players. Perhaps this is more balanced:

To NYR: JT Miller, Kunz, 2025 Buff 4th, Van 2026 5th
To Vancouver: Byram, Chytil, 2025 Buff 3rd, 2026 NYR 3rd
To Buff: Sykora, Hoglander, K Miller, Desharnais, 2025 NYR 2nd, 2028 Van 6th

That's a pile of garbage for Buffalo. Throwing more garbage on top of garbage doesn't make it more appealing.

 

[jfhabs]

The Rangers seems like the only team doing this... Don't really know Mancini, and not really a Byram fan to be fair. Still... when it seems to good to be true... NYR acquire a 100pt player for a mid 1st, a 3rd liner and a couple B-prospect if we're generous here... Not enough quality from NYR outside of that 1st.

 

[Chainshot]

That's a pile of garbage for Buffalo. Throwing more garbage on top of garbage doesn't make it more appealing.

Organic material. Compost even.

 

[Djp]

I like this idea for NYR and Vancouver, but as some posters mentioned its not great for Buffalo as they want NHL ready players. Perhaps this is more balanced:

To NYR: JT Miller, Kunz, 2025 Buff 4th, Van 2026 5th
To Vancouver: Byram, Chytil, 2025 Buff 3rd, 2026 NYR 3rd
To Buff: Sykora, Hoglander, K Miller, Desharnais, 2025 NYR 2nd, 2028 Van 6th

Who did you ask to hold your beer?

This is an even worse trade for buffalo

Byram +3rd+4th for an overpaid LD they don’t need , and spare parts

 

[GAGLine]

Bryam, given his age and his actual play is the best player here and Krieder given his age and contract isn't worth nearly as much as you think.

Forbort has no value and Hoglander not much at all but Chytil at this point is just a guy and Othmann is kind of buried in your system so not worth much either.

This trade is typical HF in that one team gets way more than they are giving up.

You know nothing about any of those players or their value. Try harder.

 

[eco's bones]

I think as far as the Rangers are concerned the only good reason to get a third team involved in a JT Miller trade is for that team to take on some of his cap hit or in other words move a prospect or a draft pick for cap space and move JT through that team......and all that might not even be necessary if the Rangers and Vancouver can figure it out between themselves.

So I would leave Byram and Sabres fans (who don't want to move him) be.

 

[bernmeister]

NYR get: JT Miller
VAN gets: Bowen Byram, Filip Chytil
BUF gets: Adam Sykora, Victor Mancini, NYR top 10 protected first

no x 3 but creativity is acknowledged

no for Rs - jtm can be had direct cheaper:
Smith, Lindgren, Sykora, Kaliyev
for
jtm and Desharnais who is an immovable pylon cap dump

also Rs cannot surrender RD prospect Mancini
and do not need to give up Chytil or a 1st in this situation unless jtm is open to elsewhere

no for Van b'c Byram = a real risk given concussion history
our hope is as far as I know he is a decent guy, so hoping for the best and that he does an Ekblad/Juulsen
but it is factually true one more bad hit and BB is lights out, as is Chytil

no for Buf b'c they want more immediate impact w/less risk

 

[Glorydays22]

NYR get: JT Miller
VAN gets: Bowen Byram, Filip Chytil
BUF gets: Adam Sykora, Victor Mancini, NYR top 10 protected first

thats a horrible trade for Buffalo...

 

[StrompTroller]

You honestly believe that Byram is worth so much more than K'Andre Miller that the Rangers would have to include Kreider, Chytil and Othmann to make it fair? I don't place any value on Hoglander or Forbort, so don't bother mentioning them. I wouldn't trade any of the listed Ranger players for them.

If you truly believe that, you must be some combination of drunk, stoned, and really bad at evaluating players.

out of curiosity which are you right now?

Canucks: Byram, Chytil

Buffalo: Schneider

NYR: JT Miller, Kulich, BUF 2nd

this is somehow worse than everything else discussed lol congrats....

 

[TBF1972]

I like this idea for NYR and Vancouver, but as some posters mentioned its not great for Buffalo as they want NHL ready players. Perhaps this is more balanced:

To NYR: JT Miller, Kunz, 2025 Buff 4th, Van 2026 5th
To Vancouver: Byram, Chytil, 2025 Buff 3rd, 2026 NYR 3rd
To Buff: Sykora, Hoglander, K Miller, Desharnais, 2025 NYR 2nd, 2028 Van 6th

why not a 2026 van 8th?

 

[GAGLine]

out of curiosity which are you right now?

Like Monty Brewster, None of the Above!

 

[BLNY]

NYR get: JT Miller
VAN gets: Bowen Byram, Filip Chytil
BUF gets: Adam Sykora, Victor Mancini, NYR top 10 protected first

BuffaNO

 

[StrompTroller]

Like Monty Brewster, None of the Above!

Good to know there's just plain old............ left in the world

no x 3 but creativity is acknowledged

no for Rs - jtm can be had direct cheaper:
Smith, Lindgren, Sykora, Kaliyev
for
jtm and Desharnais who is an immovable pylon cap dump

also Rs cannot surrender RD prospect Mancini
and do not need to give up Chytil or a 1st in this situation unless jtm is open to elsewhere

no for Van b'c Byram = a real risk given concussion history
our hope is as far as I know he is a decent guy, so hoping for the best and that he does an Ekblad/Juulsen
but it is factually true one more bad hit and BB is lights out, as is Chytil

no for Buf b'c they want more immediate impact w/less risk

I just heard Stone Cold Steve Austin's entrance music of glass shattering and the entire population of people involved in this thread were like "ohhhh shit here we gooooooo"

 

[rypper]

Buffalo should trade for Miller.

After so many years at the bottom, bring in his abrasive personality to scream the stink of losing out of the locker room.