Proposal: NYR/Ottawa
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Sens have no interest whatsoever in trading C Brown but this is way too good to say no to. Rangers wouldnt do this.
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That's an overpayment by the Rangers and I don't see what use we have for those players. I mean, Brown would help, but there are better options, and I'm not interested in having him on the cap next year. The money is tight enough as it is. If we are using that cap space to bring someone in, it needs to be a center. You trade away Chytil and bring in Brown, we can't afford to re-sign Strome. Who is our #2 center next year? Tierney adds nothing.
PoutineSp00nZ
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Sens need Brown more than they need a couple of prospects and picks right now. They need to add to their forward core not subtract from it.
Not a good trade for them regardless of value.
Not a good trade for them regardless of value.
ReginKarlssonLehner
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Am I only one that sees a bunch of quantity no quality?
Connor Brown could be our captain. He is 25th in the entire league in TOI among forward.
He leads the entire league in SHTOI as a winger.
He's an elite 3rd liner who's proven he can be complementary top 6 and excellent 2 way player.
He also has a year left at 3.6 million. I see nothing in that NYR offer that excites me. Connor Brown-types are valued really highly among GMs.
Connor Brown could be our captain. He is 25th in the entire league in TOI among forward.
He leads the entire league in SHTOI as a winger.
He's an elite 3rd liner who's proven he can be complementary top 6 and excellent 2 way player.
He also has a year left at 3.6 million. I see nothing in that NYR offer that excites me. Connor Brown-types are valued really highly among GMs.
No. Prefer the 2 young Fs, no win now, build instead, get stronger.
Strome can't be extended w'o immediate cap craziness AND triggering dealing Kakko/LaF
Strome goes. Chytil, who has more upside, stays and replaces. Barron gets mo mins. Mins for Krav when he gets here, assuming Drury is smart enough not to give Krav away.
I like Gauthier and prefer to keep.
Would be interested in what Strome (w/immediate extension worked out in adv) along w/surplus Reunanen to OTT might fetch.
I wouldn't do it as a Sens fan.
Gauthier is a 4rth liner/tweener.
Reunanen is low value and honestly we just don't need him ( Chabot, Zub, Sanderson, JBD, Brannstrom, Thomson, Holden, J.Brown, MDZ)
Chytil isn't better than Brown
The 2nd doesn't do anything for Ottawa. We're stacked with prospects - we need legit NHLers like Brown.
Tierney is useless. You can have him for a late pick.
Gauthier is a 4rth liner/tweener.
Reunanen is low value and honestly we just don't need him ( Chabot, Zub, Sanderson, JBD, Brannstrom, Thomson, Holden, J.Brown, MDZ)
Chytil isn't better than Brown
The 2nd doesn't do anything for Ottawa. We're stacked with prospects - we need legit NHLers like Brown.
Tierney is useless. You can have him for a late pick.
says it all.
that you want to decrease Rangers window by jumping on the bandwagon of those who foolishly advise deal youth in reckless win now, confirms justification of my position it is a bad idea.
OP's title of thread is as to the 2 teams; no restriction otherwise.
Make me a decent offer for Strome
Neither you, nor anyone else, is the boss of me.
Your vote is acknowledged, thank you.
Let's hear from actual Sens fans. They are begging for established F help, pref a C. Strome fits. Better options? Yes, but also WAY WAY mo expensive.
Strome to Sens at right price works.
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Strome isn't getting traded. You need to come to terms with that. He will be a self-rental and maybe he gets re-signed, maybe not.
The Rangers are 2nd in the Metro and 5th in the league. They aren't going to make the team worse going into the playoffs. Trading Strome for the stuff you usually propose makes them worse. You can't constantly sacrifice the present for the future.
I hear you and you may be right as to the way it will go down, but I will not be silent as to my thinking it is a mistake. It is not "constantly sacrificing the present" to give mo mins to Chytil + Barron and to get Krav rolling. The premise that dealing Strome would make them worse is a valid counterpoint, but only that, it is not 111% be certain to happen if Rangers went there. That, like my position, here is subjective, not objective; neither is a fact until tried.
That said, howev, it is indisputable we can't re-sign Strome due to cap and doing so anyway would = exodus of laF/KK. And it is also fact that, setting aside value of Strome production now, adding picks for him would help upgrade roster/extend our window.
i don’t think Chytil is the 2C
Don’t see it often but I think Strome takes less than Market value at like 5 to stay
caps tight but they can make it work
Kakko won’t get alot X 2 yrs
Trade Nemeth , Georgiev
Connor Brown, a 2-way force who can play on 2nd or 3rd line with elite PKing abilities? It will cost you Lafrenniere. Not sure if Ottawa even adds a pick.
Kind of like the Zibby for Brassard trade reversed, except both those players had higher pedigree than Brown/Laf when they were traded.
In other words, Ottawa will not trade a valuable 2-way player who is the type of player to complement the young guns. Dorion is more interested in trading for young players that fit the team than acquiring more draft capital. He wants to contend as par Melnyk's Future Years of Unparalled Success plan (FYOUS - or as I call it for it, f*** You Sensfans). Brown is the type of player Ottawa needs to retain to supplement the core. Gauthier/Chytl types don't move the needle. If you want Connor Brown who has another year left at a bargain basement $3.6M cap to contend, fork out a legit prospect. Don't see Ranger fans agreeing to that, so we can let this die on a hill.
Kind of like the Zibby for Brassard trade reversed, except both those players had higher pedigree than Brown/Laf when they were traded.
In other words, Ottawa will not trade a valuable 2-way player who is the type of player to complement the young guns. Dorion is more interested in trading for young players that fit the team than acquiring more draft capital. He wants to contend as par Melnyk's Future Years of Unparalled Success plan (FYOUS - or as I call it for it, f*** You Sensfans). Brown is the type of player Ottawa needs to retain to supplement the core. Gauthier/Chytl types don't move the needle. If you want Connor Brown who has another year left at a bargain basement $3.6M cap to contend, fork out a legit prospect. Don't see Ranger fans agreeing to that, so we can let this die on a hill.
Cmon man. I like C.Brown but 1 year and a half only til UFA for Laf... That's wild.
Actually, Ottawa is the only team that has shown interest in Strome. I doubt Drury will trade him but maybe there is a chance Ottawa gives Strome his retirement contract.
PoutineSp00nZ
Electricity is really just organized lightning.
Sens don't need a center at all. Stutzle, Norris and Pinto set them up down the middle for a long time.
What they need is a winger.
No interest in trading Connor Brown for anything less than a good young player coming back. Lafrenniere brings more promise than actual production, and could end up being a bust.
Point being, no way Ottawa considers a trade like the one OP proposed. I am sure Ottawa gets better value elsewhere, as I don't see the Rangers trading him unless they know Laf is not going to be the player he was hyped to be when he was picked #1 overall in 2020 draft.
Ottawa needs and benefits more with CBrown in the line-up as they are gearing towards being a contender in the next couple of years. If they sell him, it will be for good younger player worth trading for. Not the types being offered here.
Laf could end up being a bust a la Patrick Stefan/Alexandre Daigle, or could become a top-6 contributor. He is no longer the slam dunk surefire 1st line prospect he was touted to be pre-draft. It's uncertain territory. Connor Brown is likely underrated for those who don't follow Sens hockey.
Would you trade Zach Hyman for what the OP offered? Do the Rangers trade Laf for someone like Zach Hyman? A Hyman
trade benefits NYR now as a contender.
Connor comes in much cheaper on the cap for another 1.5 years.
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Why does Ottawa pay for Strome to be a 3C on a team with two legit 3C's (Pinto + White)?
NYR should pay Ottawa to take him.
