Proposal: NYR / MTL
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Why would we do that when Chytil is 3 years younger and is better and is also a center?
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No from NYR.
Chytil makes less money and is playing a 3C role, the same role Dvorak would be playing. I don't think the problem is our 3c, so it makes no sense to take on more cap.
We don't have the cap to swap out Kravtsov for Dvorak.
There's also a big difference right now between the 2 players (Chtyil and Kravtsov). If Montreal wanted Kravtsov, they'd offer a pick / prospect, not Dvorak who they can sell off for something more.
Chytil makes less money and is playing a 3C role, the same role Dvorak would be playing. I don't think the problem is our 3c, so it makes no sense to take on more cap.
We don't have the cap to swap out Kravtsov for Dvorak.
There's also a big difference right now between the 2 players (Chtyil and Kravtsov). If Montreal wanted Kravtsov, they'd offer a pick / prospect, not Dvorak who they can sell off for something more.
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I feel like these 2 players have wildly different values. Chytil is worth more than Dvo and Kravtsov likely less.
I agree with some of the comments but but sometimes sacrifices need to be made. I believe experience trumps the inexperienced to have a chance at the CUP.
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Ok, well get that experience in the top 6 because that's the reason the cup wasn't within reach. The 3rd kid (kid line), was not the issue. I don't think the experience of Dvorak was pushing them to a cup final, or pushing them further alone this season.
As a Habs fan, i don't think Dvorak has played or produced near well enough to garner value in a trade. At this stage, the Habs are better off holding onto Dvorak. Dvorak isn't going to return what Habs fans think he's worth because he's not producing effectively. He's a 3C and i am not sure he has 2C potential.
As a 3C with good defensive play and high fo% he's worth his contract. He just doesn't merit much value in a trade.
As a 3C with good defensive play and high fo% he's worth his contract. He just doesn't merit much value in a trade.
no def not x 2
Chytil is WAY better
Krav has been mishandled but has huge more upside.\
I don't want Drury to get away with this.
Want him to deal Vesey to create mins and give VK opportunity top 6.
Drury must not be allowed to get off critique free for something that should have been done at sq1.
He should bend buckle and break on this, Rangers should not have to bend buckle and break on his my way assertion of will.
You work for US Drury
bern has spoken
listen
no OP
I get you want to push your narrative b'c obviously we are all conjuring up ways to improve our favorite teams by winning these hypotheticals
It is conceivable that in the isolated context of a team w/its last Cup window imminently closing, then MAYBE depending on circumstances and specifics, maybe you go w/a vet. MAYBE.
Most of the time, and as is applicable here, smartest move is for NY to max extend its window by keeping/dealing for productive YOUTH, which = downward pressure on salary = reduced cap = holds core of roster together longer.
Chytil is a keeper
Krav should immediately get max opportunity or be traded for quality youth
Dvorak is ok at best, not best spending of cap, and not a fit for NY.
try elsewhere
concur largely
Our biggest prob last yr was TB was better. Which was moot b'c Avs were not gonna get stopped.
To get past TB, we needed Panarin to play better. That Goodrow, who is our plan to see bread is not pushed around postseason, was severely injured, did not help.
We also, for the love of God and proving that I am right, should have ditched Strome and given Krav development minutes HERE.
But noooooooooooooooooooo gotta win now.
That's it short sighted ones, don't listen to bern
And pay the price at some pt
Agree w/most of this.
Da bold is a tad generous, but whatev
A 3C with high-end 3C production is not generous. Dvorak will likely finish the season producing at a 45-50 pt rate again.
also Chytil has more playoff experience anyway and its not like he's some young rookie. He's almost been in the league for five years.
And what experience exactly is Christian Dvorak bringing to the table?
The experience of having made the playoffs one single time in his career, and never making out of the first round?
That is certainly experience.
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Trochek makes Dvorak both unneeded, and a a bad Cap fit.
Kravtsov for Guhle might tempt NYR, but Habs maybe not
Kravtsov for Guhle might tempt NYR, but Habs maybe not
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Agree that Dvorak is a player not wanted /needed by the Rangers but lets be real here, Kravtsov doesn't come close to getting Guhle
Bouboumaster
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Not disputing your point about experience because I agree but unless that playoff was a best of 9 series he must have gotten out of the first round .
So new career high in points? He is pacing for his typical 30 something but not quite 40 as he has every year.
The past two years he was on pace for 48 and 45 points. Last time i checked, that's over 40. With a healthy season, he will likely produce in this range.
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