Confirmed with Link: NYR make changes to Skills, Performance and Development staff

[Crease]

Good. They desperately needed a change in this department.

 

[JHS]

Seems like it did not take Laviolette long to see one of the major issues with this organization. See ya later Mark!

 

[2014nyr]

our prospects finna square some pucks

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Finally!

Seems more like a do-nothing job. Like Gabe Perreault will be working and training with BC. Ciaccio can't just show up at BC's practices to coach him or Fortescue. McConnell-Barker's coaches are the Soo Greyhounds coaches. They don't have random guys affiliated with NHL organizations come into practices.

Hartford would be about the only place he'd be able to have consistent interaction with the kids, outside of something like our development camp or any other summer program. In season, all the non-AHL prospects get their coaching from their own programs. It would also be kind of weird to have a prospect-focused coach in Hartford because most of the guys down there aren't even prospects, and it seems really unlikely they'd separate them out during practices.

Just to add to this: The Rangers need permission from those teams to have a Rangers-employee even contact a player.

The only exception is when a player is under contract and loaned out (McConnell-Barker for instance) but even then, the time a guy like Ciaccio would get to work with BMB is limited and would still require an agreement with his team's coaches for there to be more involvement.

Ciaccio is on his way out. Let's hope they just have him on desk-duty.

 

[egelband]

What is the issue with this guy?
Feels like the bizarro world version of the Benoit Allaire love affair.

 

[ajdj10]

Why do we need to hire anyone else when we have Tanner Glass..

 

[Boris Zubov]

What is the issue with this guy?
Feels like the bizarro world version of the Benoit Allaire love affair.

Our track record of developing high end forward prospects speaks for itself & should answer your question.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

As mentioned earlier, unless he's going to be in Hartford, hes going to spend almost NO time with the prospects.

They have their own teams who have their own coaches. Their work will be done there.

Yeah this is literally like a mafia no show construction job lol

 

[Mugless]

Rangers continue to revamp coaching staff

The New York Rangers continue to add unique new pieces to Peter Laviolette’s coaching staff.

nypost.com

"Hmura also owns his own development program, Hmura Hockey Development, which was founded on his core principle that “being a well versed skater creates the time and space to utilize the skills that you practice day in and day out,” per his website."

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Why do we need to hire anyone else when we have Tanner Glass..

Different job

 

[NickyFotiu]

Seems like it did not take Laviolette long to see one of the major issues with this organization. See ya later Mark!

I know many weren't thrilled by Lav being hired but Im very intrigued by the staff he has been forming. No way to tell if they will be bad or great yet but I see some interesting pieces to the puzzle.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I know many weren't thrilled by Lav being hired but Im very intrigued by the staff he has been forming. No way to tell if they will be bad or great yet but I see some interesting pieces to the puzzle.

It's nice to finally see this organisation hire a coach and surround him with assistants that can actually help him unlike the typical head coaching hire where 3 assistants are always attached at the hip as if you're marrying a single mother of 3.

 

[leetch99]

It's nice to finally see this organisation hire a coach and surround him with assistants that can actually help him unlike the typical head coaching hire where 3 assistants are always attached at the hip as if you're marrying a single mother of 3.

That ready made family type of coaching staff won't always work when they have a problem child to deal with . Gallant staff versus Panarin.....Problem Child won that round . We'll see where Lavi goes on it with his wonderful staffing choices .

 

[McRanger92]

Ramsey and Ciaccio out. Gord Murphy not retained with the rest of Uncle Fester's staff. Nice to see Drury clearing out some of the entrenched "country club" employees. I also like that he is leaning more toward the USA Hockey guys with new hires. Throughout my fandom at least, the Rangers have always done well with players coming out of the program.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

Who knows if Ciaccio was the real problem, but our inability to develop F prospects has been suspect for far too long for it to be solely a scouting issue.

I say it every time a thread like this pops up, but the Rangers as an organization need to be using their financial muscle to give the team every advantage they can outside of the cap. Our facilities, team doctors, sports psychologists, skills/video coaching, development staff, nutritionists, scouting department, etc should be second to absolutely none. I don't know the inner workings of the team any more than anyone else here does, but it doesn't feel like that's always been the case.

 

[Machinehead]

It's not just the young guys where this has been a problem.

It's crazy how bad even some of our top players are at passing, receiving passes, and operating in traffic.

 

[will1066]

It's nice to finally see this organisation hire a coach and surround him with assistants that can actually help him unlike the typical head coaching hire where 3 assistants are always attached at the hip as if you're marrying a single mother of 3.

Isn't the way this is shaping up different even for Laviolette? I don't recall a process like this where young assistant coaches who are close with many players on the roster are being deliberately hired, even for him.

 

[Levitate]

Muse and Housely worked with lav before in nashville , Peca was with him in Washington as a player development coach

I don’t think coaches usually just pick people they’re completely unfamiliar with as assistants which is why you tend to get the same Guys following each other

 

[will1066]

Muse and Housely worked with lav before in nashville , Peca was with him in Washington as a player development coach

I don’t think coaches usually just pick people they’re completely unfamiliar with as assistants which is why you tend to get the same Guys following each other

Yeah, for some reason, I forgot about these points about Muse and Housley. Senior moment. So this is the sports version of a new corporate team coming in and putting its own people in positions of power.

 

[Levitate]

Yeah, for some reason, I forgot about these points about Muse and Housley. Senior moment. So this is the sports version of a new corporate team coming in and putting its own people in positions of power.

I mean that’s pretty normal with coaching changes
I think it’s more important that the head coach has a real picture of what these coaches are hired and what they’ll be doing
It’s not like Housely and muse were in Washington either

 

[IDvsEGO]

Who knows if Ciaccio was the real problem, but our inability to develop F prospects has been suspect for far too long for it to be solely a scouting issue.

I say it every time a thread like this pops up, but the Rangers as an organization need to be using their financial muscle to give the team every advantage they can outside of the cap. Our facilities, team doctors, sports psychologists, skills/video coaching, development staff, nutritionists, scouting department, etc should be second to absolutely none. I don't know the inner workings of the team any more than anyone else here does, but it doesn't feel like that's always been the case.

I thought the knock on the rangers was that they can’t draft?
That we always draft busts.
But we also can’t develop players. These things seem contradictory.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

It's not just the young guys where this has been a problem.

It's crazy how bad even some of our top players are at passing, receiving passes, and operating in traffic.

100% true. We haven't had a coach with a real system since AV. Say what you want about how bad his system was, but his rush offense scheme almost gave us a cup (on the back of Henrik). Quinn and Gallant were both full of platitudes about "playing the right way," but with very little discernible substance that I could tell.

 

[Profet]

100% true. We haven't had a coach with a real system since AV. Say what you want about how bad his system was, but his rush offense scheme almost gave us a cup (on the back of Henrik). Quinn and Gallant were both full of platitudes about "playing the right way," but with very little discernible substance that I could tell.

Again... Disagree.

AV's system was garbage, BUT Torts' entrenched work ethic and 6 goalie system kept that team honest. They all knew how to play defense because of Torts, AV just took the leash off.

 

[Machinehead]

100% true. We haven't had a coach with a real system since AV. Say what you want about how bad his system was, but his rush offense scheme almost gave us a cup (on the back of Henrik). Quinn and Gallant were both full of platitudes about "playing the right way," but with very little discernible substance that I could tell.

AV did at least have a thing even if I hated it.

Quinn and Gallant were both very generic. It's fine and dandy to want guys to play "right" but that means nothing without a clear standard to meet.

I hear about Laviolette doing the Left Wing Lock, and hell, that's basic, but at least it's something to hold guys to.

 

[Profet]

AV did at least have a thing even if I hated it.

Quinn and Gallant were both very generic. It's fine and dandy to want guys to play "right" but that means nothing without a clear standard to meet.

I hear about Laviolette doing the Left Wing Lock, and hell, that's basic, but at least it's something to hold guys to.

Hiring Quinn with his lack of system was the worst mistake this team has ever made.
That was the perfect opportunity to hire a systems/development guy.
If that happened, I'd argue Gallant's tenure probably nets a cup.

Now we're back at square one. Our top prospects are middling, and we're back in the dreaded middle for drafting.