Confirmed with Link: NYR have Signed Igor Shesterkin and Vitali Kravtsov to ELCs (Confirmed by NYR)

[Amazing Kreiderman]

They’re not keeping both of them long term either way

There's a difference between trading Georgiev because they have to (keeping Lundqvist) and trading Georgiev because they want to (after 2021).

Do people forget what happened with Hagelin and Talbot? The return is significantly lower when a team is forced to trade a player

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

There's a difference between trading Georgiev because they have to (keeping Lundqvist) and trading Georgiev because they want to (after 2021).

Do people forget what happened with Hagelin and Talbot? The return is significantly lower when a team is forced to trade a player

Sather said he took a lesser offer for Talbot to help out his old team. Also Talbot had a year left before he could be a UFA

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Sather said he took a lesser offer for Talbot to help out his old team. Also Talbot had a year left before he could be a UFA

There are several reasons why Talbot's value was low, and us having to trade him is one of them.

 

[GAGLine]

They’re not keeping both of them long term either way

Maybe not, but we might have to trade one sooner than we would otherwise want to. Maybe we get less in return as a result. Maybe we end up trading the wrong guy. I'm not saying we should force Henrik out or anything, but having him stick around for 2 more years makes it difficult to get the kids enough games. Shesty will probably play a lot in the AHL this year, so we can probably manage it. 2020 is when it's going to be a real problem, IMO.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

If Henrik being on the roster for the next 2 years means we are forced to trade one of Shesterkin/Georgiev, would you not consider that a cost of loyalty?

No. Or I consider it such a low cost that it's not worth even remotely being upset over.

 

[mrhockey193195]

The benefit of keeping Hank to mentor both goalies, one of which we believe will become the future #1, outweighs any short-term pain of Georgiev & Shestyerkin bumping up and down from the AHL

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Sather said he took a lesser offer for Talbot to help out his old team. Also Talbot had a year left before he could be a UFA

Where is the quote of him saying such a thing? This would be outrageous and I have a hard time believing there is any truth to it.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

There's a difference between trading Georgiev because they have to (keeping Lundqvist) and trading Georgiev because they want to (after 2021).

Do people forget what happened with Hagelin and Talbot? The return is significantly lower when a team is forced to trade a player

I feel like goalies always have low trade values (or lower than what people think)...I honestly can't remember a time semi recently where i said, "Wow that was a pretty nice haul they got for (insert goalie name here)"

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I feel like goalies always have low trade values (or lower than what people think)...I honestly can't remember a time semi recently where i said, "Wow that was a pretty nice haul they got for (insert goalie name here)"

Cost controlled good goalies can return a 1st round pick. Georgiev is definitely in that range. He's more valuable than Talbot was in 2015 because of his age and contract situation

 

[Mac n Gs]

My only concern with Igor, which I'm sure others have brought up, is a potential endurance issue coming over from the KHL. The pace of the game and durations of the seasons are nothing he's experienced before, and it could take him some time to adjust. Some of the more recent prominent goalies have taken ~2 years (approximately their D+6/7) to start 50+ games in the NHL.

Luckily, I think this works perfectly well with the current timeline we're on, so it shouldn't be too much of an issue. I guess I'm just throwing caution to the wind for those expecting him to come in and light it up right away. Bob is really the only one to come in and start 50+ games right away.

 

[Harbour Dog]

I feel like goalies always have low trade values (or lower than what people think)...I honestly can't remember a time semi recently where i said, "Wow that was a pretty nice haul they got for (insert goalie name here)"

Lehner to the Sabres is the only recent one that comes to mind.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Lehner to the Sabres is the only recent one that comes to mind.

Martin Jones returned a 1st rounder in the same off-season

 

[rangerfan_79]

Corey Schneider for 9OA in 2013.
The Canucks definitely won the Horvat-Schneider trade

 

[Harbour Dog]

Martin Jones returned a 1st rounder in the same off-season

Right, I forgot about that one.

Any first rounder for a goalie that you're willing to trade is a excellent return imo.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I've been proved wrong.

I'll go sit in the corner now.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Where is the quote of him saying such a thing? This would be outrageous and I have a hard time believing there is any truth to it.

There was a clip of him saying something about helping out his old team, and then there was either a report or another GM (I think Talon) saying there was a better offer for him

 

[Thirty One]

Where is the quote of him saying such a thing? This would be outrageous and I have a hard time believing there is any truth to it.

Note: There is no quote forthcoming.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Note: There is no quote forthcoming.

Edit: and here’s an article with tweets about Dale Talon saying his offer was better
Before he stepped down as the Rangers GM, Slats just wanted to help his old team out:

 

[Trxjw]

Why do I feel like there was a clip from Gorton on day 2 of that draft where he said something cryptic about another offer that was on the table for Talbot?

 

[Thirty One]

I would like to hear his tone when he said that. I'd guess when speaking to an Edmonton reporter, who is a total goof, there was a level of insincerity there.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

I would like to hear his tone when he said that. I'd guess when speaking to an Edmonton reporter, who is a total goof, there was a level of insincerity there.

Yeah, I’m not saying he wasn’t joking, but God do I remember all the arguing about that trade

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Sather said he took a lesser offer for Talbot to help out his old team. Also Talbot had a year left before he could be a UFA

a) There's no way he did that.

b) If he DID do that, there's no way he'd admit to that.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Edit: and here’s an article with tweets about Dale Talon saying his offer was better
Before he stepped down as the Rangers GM, Slats just wanted to help his old team out:

That was clearly a joke.

 

[Dijock94]

I feel like goalies always have low trade values (or lower than what people think)...I honestly can't remember a time semi recently where i said, "Wow that was a pretty nice haul they got for (insert goalie name here)"

Cory Schneider

 

[Ghost of jas]

That was clearly a joke.

It's not the first time Sather did it. He was given a better offer for Nedved in 2004 from Nashville (2 2nd's) and he took a lesser deal with Edmonton. One time, okay, but, it happened again.