Proposal: NYR-EDM

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Lays

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Georgiev+McKegg for Koskinen+3rd+Benson

It’s pretty apparent at this point that Georgiev and Shesterkin don’t like each other so bringing in Koskinen who played 1A/1B with Shesterkin at SKA would help relations, and Koskinen gives us a Finn for Kakko.

Benson fits NYR’s style of a slow tempo offense and is struggling to produce in Edmonton now with something like 2 points in 20 games. Greg McKegg gives the Oilers a speedy forechecking C/W who can’t do anything else. NYR have been running with McKegg whose been in the lineup since Blais went down and I think Benson fits the team a bit better

Georgiev gives Edmonton a young potential starting goalie who struggles with consistency at a low cost and they free up some cap space

the 3rd is to balance value between taking on Koskinen’s contract and Georgiev’s potential.

Thoughts?
 
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mrjnick

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Counter with Koskinen+'23 3rd for Georgiev. Oilers don't have a '22 3rd.

Georgiev isn't an upgrade what so ever.. In-fact he's worse than Koskinen this season, the 3rd would makeup for the 2m in salary that would be off the books this off-season.
 

Lays

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Counter with Koskinen+'23 3rd for Georgiev. Oilers don't have a '22 3rd.

Georgiev isn't an upgrade what so ever.. In-fact he's worse than Koskinen this season, the 3rd would makeup for the 2m in salary that would be off the books this off-season.
Georgiev is also like a decade younger than Koskinen and doesn’t have his contract. Georgiev is actually younger than Shesterkin as well. Upside to be a starting goalie for a 3rd+Koskinen+Benson seems pretty fair no?
 
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OG Eberle

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Why do we keep revisiting Koskinen for Geo? I feel we've beat this to death in numerous threads.

NYR fans say he's so much better and just needs starters minutes to prove it cause he's cold or not getting in a groove (wat).

EDM fans (vast majority) look at the stats and see an identical, younger Koskinen, which also happens to cost us early or mid round picks.

There is nothing to suggest Geo is anymore of an upgrade over Koskinen, which is what we need. Would much rather just move our 1st and prospects for someone established.

We need consistency. Not potential.
 

mrjnick

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Georgiev is also like a decade younger than Koskinen and doesn’t have his contract. Georgiev is actually younger than Shesterkin as well. Upside to be a starting goalie for a 3rd+Koskinen+Benson seems pretty fair no?

Georgiev has never proven he can be a starter, I see him as a 1A (with his potential)
He's always split and has league average numbers doing so.

Benson is promising at the AHL level and is finally starting to find a role for himself in the NHL. That being said I would be fine adding him in a package, but not with McKegg
 

Connor McConnor

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Makes no sense for Oilers. Koskinen is better than him as of now and Georgiev isn't a long term solution. Koski is expiring after this year. Ideally, we want him to be our 2G this year unless he's part of a deal for a legit #1 (cap reasons) so we can just waive Smith.
 

Lays

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Makes no sense for Oilers. Koskinen is better than him as of now and Georgiev isn't a long term solution. Koski is expiring after this year. Ideally, we want him to be our 2G this year unless he's part of a deal for a legit #1 (cap reasons) so we can just waive Smith.
Why can’t Georgiev be long term? He’s younger than Shesterkin and hasn’t got true opportunity as a starter. Oilers can run with Georgiev/Skinner as two young goalies in a 1A/1B until they figure out which is better
 

bernmeister

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1st ? is, who pays the most for Geo?
Is that Oil?
If they are not willing to give 2nd + value for him + our taking back Kosk, then prob LV and others are better bets for new Geo home
 

DingDongCharlie

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I’d consider Smith + 3rd for Georgiev + later pick.

This way if Georgiev craps the bed here too we can walk away in the off season (RFA don’t qualify him) and yes we lose a mid pick but least get 2 million off the books for next season.
 

Vitto79

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Shesterkin and Georgiev were at a Knicks game together lol

I’m sure they are cool Georgiev just wants to play more
 

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More likely Georgiev moves in the offseason. He deserves his shot but i cant see the Rangers going into the playoffs without an experienced backup.
 

spaghtti

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Why can’t Georgiev be long term? He’s younger than Shesterkin and hasn’t got true opportunity as a starter. Oilers can run with Georgiev/Skinner as two young goalies in a 1A/1B until they figure out which is better
But Goergiev doesn’t share well, that’s what Rangers fans have been preaching
 

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Counter with Koskinen+'23 3rd for Georgiev. Oilers don't have a '22 3rd.

Georgiev isn't an upgrade what so ever.. In-fact he's worse than Koskinen this season, the 3rd would makeup for the 2m in salary that would be off the books this off-season.
Koskinen has $1.3 million left. Why would the Oilers give up anything at all to get rid of him?
 

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It's just one backup for another. Doesn't do anything for either team. Edmonton is in a win now mode, they need a starting goalie.
 

jay from jersey

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But Goergiev doesn’t share well, that’s what Rangers fans have been preaching
He needs more of a 1A/1B type situation, or a true starting role.
Geo has played his best hockey when his workload is increased.
Example- when Lundqvist was injured
-when shesty was injured and he was getting a lot more minutes.

In a true back up role, coming off the bench every 5th/6th game, he’s feast for famine. He’ll stop 40 shots, or get blown up.
For whatever reason, he just can’t stay sharp when he doesn’t play with any regularity.

if any team trading for him isn’t going to give him increased starts/playing time, they will be disappointed.
But literally the only thing we’ve seen from Geo is he proves he plays better with more minutes/starts over his career so far.
 

spaghtti

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He needs more of a 1A/1B type situation, or a true starting role.
Geo has played his best hockey when his workload is increased.
Example- when Lundqvist was injured
-when shesty was injured and he was getting a lot more minutes.

In a true back up role, coming off the bench every 5th/6th game, he’s feast for famine. He’ll stop 40 shots, or get blown up.
For whatever reason, he just can’t stay sharp when he doesn’t play with any regularity.

if any team trading for him isn’t going to give him increased starts/playing time, they will be disappointed.
But literally the only thing we’ve seen from Geo is he proves he plays better with more minutes/starts over his career so far.
Still not worth the risk of acquiring, if the Oilers are spending assets they should be looking for a sure thing vs he might be better and nothing Goergiev has done looks like a sure thing
 

byrath

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It's just one backup for another. Doesn't do anything for either team. Edmonton is in a win now mode, they need a starting goalie.
Legit starting goalies pretty much never get traded though, usually the best you can acquire is a young backup who's looked good but is blocked by a vet. No opinion on Georgiev in particular.
 
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jay from jersey

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Still not worth the risk of acquiring, if the Oilers are spending assets they should be looking for a sure thing vs he might be better and nothing Goergiev has done looks like a sure thing

sure, but what you’d pay for geo isn’t what you would pay for kuemper etc.
It’s a low risk high reward situation.

they signed Kane, and have already fired their coach... they are obviously willing to gamble to keep Drai/McD happy
 

thadd

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I wish we could add some new AI moderators to this trade proposal forum. They could just take all of the Kos for Geor proposals and merge them into one thread. Really isn't worth the time of human mods to deal with this crap.

And while we're here, I may as well say this for the dozenth time.

Why is Edmonton paying a 3rd rounder to get something of equal quality at best in return when they need to address getting a long term upgrade?
 

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