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Confirmed Signing with Link: [NYR] D Ryan Lindgren re-signs with the Rangers (1 year, $4.5M)

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The Kings just gave the corpse of Joel Edmundson the same salary for 3 years.

Outrage over a 1 year contract for a quality physical defenseman is a galaxy brain take.
 
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biturbo19 said:
Fans are so weird about this player. Acting like $4.5M is expensive for a guy who plays on their alleged "top pairing". It all feels like excuse-making for Fox not being as good as advertised...and that K'Andre-Trouba pairing being the "real" top/matchup pairing that does more of the real important work.

Anything bad that happens when Fox is on the ice is because Lindgren? Anything good that happens is because Fox and Lindgren brings very little to the table and is broken down and useless already? Just kinda weird dissonance going on with a lot of things.


Definitely appears as though the Rangers have made their decision though. And the right one. To pay K'Andre Miller once his bridge is done, rather than paying Lindgren. The concerns about him holding up physically in a long-term deal are certainly fair, with the way he plays. But man...you find a guy who works great as a partner for your Norris-caliber defenceman, and doesn't score near enough points to command a particularly huge deal...i'd think about trying to keep him. At least, if you don't have a really clear succession plan in place, in house.
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This is only a 1 year deal and NYR have nothing to bring in with addition by subtraction, so I won't complain about whatever cost they paid for 1 year. It was the 4+ years that scared fans because of Lindgren constantly getting injured and playing through those injuries. It catches up to you.

So ignoring the 1 year signing being bad or good, how to you explain the good that happens with Fox away from Lindgren, and the crap that happens with Trouba and Miller together?
 
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mm11 said:
guy is a player and warrior. proven to pay in the playoffs. Seems like a good value at one year. What's the problemo?
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he absolutely fell off a cliff the last few years to the point where he's actively hurting the team
 
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The injury issue is pretty overblown.

Last four years he's missed:

5
4
19
6

games in the regular season

In the playoffs?

Team missed POs
3
0
0

The season before that, he split time between NYR and Hartford
 
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This is roughly the walk-away number for arbitration. If the Rangers are willing to walk away from him, that makes it the ceiling for what he could get in arbitration. I suspect it is possible that the Rangers said to him take it or risk becoming a UFA when most teams have already spent their cap space.

He wouldn't be guaranteed to get over 4.5M as a UFA right now, and he may not want to move on from the Rangers. If they offer him the ceiling for arbitration and are intending to walk away otherwise, there is no point in going to arbitration and risking getting less.
 
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Some of our fans hated Lafreniere last offseason. They wanted to run him out of town. Now they love him. I was told there was no analytical way he could possibly become what he has. Weird that magic occurred.

Lindgren has the worst season of his like five year NHL career and apparently he’s now fallen off and a complete product of Fox. He’s falling apart at 26 years old, which is usually a player’s prime and despite that he’s had strong analytics every season of his career.

Last year wasn’t that bad either. His play dropped off a little. He was also dealing with injuries.

Sports fans are fickle.
 
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biturbo19 said:
Fans are so weird about this player. Acting like $4.5M is expensive for a guy who plays on their alleged "top pairing". It all feels like excuse-making for Fox not being as good as advertised...and that K'Andre-Trouba pairing being the "real" top/matchup pairing that does more of the real important work.

Anything bad that happens when Fox is on the ice is because Lindgren? Anything good that happens is because Fox and Lindgren brings very little to the table and is broken down and useless already? Just kinda weird dissonance going on with a lot of things.


Definitely appears as though the Rangers have made their decision though. And the right one. To pay K'Andre Miller once his bridge is done, rather than paying Lindgren. The concerns about him holding up physically in a long-term deal are certainly fair, with the way he plays. But man...you find a guy who works great as a partner for your Norris-caliber defenceman, and doesn't score near enough points to command a particularly huge deal...i'd think about trying to keep him. At least, if you don't have a really clear succession plan in place, in house.
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Fox had a down year last year. He was also injured. The same exact things apply for Lindgren.

But please let’s not prop up Miller and Trouba here to bring those two down. Miller, I guess is fine. He had an underwhelming season, but okay he’s defensible. Trouba is not. He was a true disaster for the Rangers and continues to now be a problem off the ice (not even him, but we can’t discuss the touchy subject apparently on this board). He’s not even on the second pairing anymore. Schneider overtook him late in the season.

The Rangers weak link in their top 5 minutes guys on defense is Trouba. There is no question about that, unless he bounces back in a big way. But he’s not really strung together like two good seasons in a row for the team since he joined, so this is probably just who he is.
 
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