Proposal: Nyr & col

[Balthazar]

Wouldn't even trade Kreider for Barrie.

Barrie is one of the worst defensive players in the league.

Protip: If you see a thread made by a butt hurt fan from any team, dedicated to any underperforming player from his favorite team, do not take that thread seriously.

 

[Ivan13]

I see SEPH's outlandish thread is cathing on. Don't want Kreider anywhere near the Avs.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Cool story dude. You overvalue Rangers players more then anybody else on these boards.


Kreider has done absolutely nothing to this point in his career that warrants being more valuable than Barrie.


Absolutely nothing.


Not to mention the value of the positions they play, contracts, etc.

No he doesn't, he just makes outlandish proposals that make the Rangers worse 90% of the time.

 

[Balthazar]

I see SEPH's outlandish thread is cathing on.

That public meltdown sure is leaving a trace.

 

[Ivan13]

That public meltdown sure is leaving a trace.

At least that nonsense makes it easier to filter out the ignoramuses.

 

[Avs44]

You already fooled us once with a trade for a defenseman. Doesn't need to be twice.

I'd agree Barrie for Kreider is fair value, but I don't want to trade Kreider. I'm certainly not throwing in two first round picks.

Fooled you? We told you Holden was garbage from the start, but good memory you have there. Brilliant analysis.

 

[Balthazar]

Fooled you? We told you Holden was garbage from the start, but good memory you have there. Brilliant analysis.

Holden has 10 pts in 18 games and they got him for a 4th pick. If that's getting fooled...

 

[Don Corleone]

Holden has 10 pts in 18 games and they got him for a 4th pick. If that's getting fooled...

He has? Jesus! Good for him.

 

[Bone Breaker]

done deal for me. I`d even send a Forsberg signed stick with Barrie as gratitude.

 

[Shootertooter]

I would trade Kreider for Barrie straight up. I think the value is fair. I don't think Barrie is a 1st rd pick more valuable and he certainly is not two 1st rd picks more valuable. I would also trade Stepan for Barrie. I'd refer moving him actually. I might include a small add maybe.

I think the emergence of JT Miller surpasses Kreider on the Rangers depth chart. If I had a choice of keeping one, I keep JT over Kreider every time. And I really like Kreider. Just think JT has more upside and is a smarter two way player.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Holden has 10 pts in 18 games and they got him for a 4th pick. If that's getting fooled...

Would you spend a 4th to take him back?

 

[CB Joe]

Would you spend a 4th to take him back?

Yup.

Would have never made the Gelinas trade.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Fooled you? We told you Holden was garbage from the start, but good memory you have there. Brilliant analysis.

I meant your GM.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Holden has 10 pts in 18 games and they got him for a 4th pick. If that's getting fooled...

The whole team has 10 points in 18 games.

I'm sure I don't need to tell you guys how Holden plays. He's such a bad decision maker. He makes one or more terrible decisions that costs the team almost every game. He's not that bad at anything, just no hockey IQ.

He's not that bad of a hockey player, just isn't really needed for the Rangers. I would've preferred the 4th round pick. We already have left sided depth, and could've had Clendening and McIlrath playing for the 6th and 7th spots.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Overpayment and it's not even up for discussion

It's not. Barrie is an elite offensive defender.

Wouldn't even trade Kreider for Barrie.

Barrie is one of the worst defensive players in the league.

Nah, that's Girardi.

I see SEPH's outlandish thread is cathing on. Don't want Kreider anywhere near the Avs.

I hate SEPH now.

Why Kreider would fit extremely well with the other low hockey IQ players. Could you imagine him next to Mack. One would turn back as soon as gaining the blue line while the other would just run the goalie.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Nah, that's Girardi.

He's had a really good season. Last season he was playing with multiple injuries, which I don't think many people realized.

There's a pile on mentality against him because he's not a player who gets good advanced stats, but he's probably been at fault for the least goals of any Ranger defenseman this season.

 

[Tryamkin]

Kreider for Barrie is interesting food for thought. Small add for NYR maybe. Two 1sts (even if one is conditional) is overkill.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

He's had a really good season. Last season he was playing with multiple injuries, which I don't think many people realized.

There's a pile on mentality against him because he's not a player who gets good advanced stats, but he's probably been at fault for the least goals of any Ranger defenseman this season.

Your post was still ridiculous...mine wasn't meant to be serious.

Kreider for Barrie is interesting food for thought. Small add for NYR maybe. Two 1sts (even if one is conditional) is overkill.

If by "small" you mean Zuccarello than yeah sure. Otherwise it's a terrible deal for the avs. Krieder has rocks for brains and the avs don't need anymore hockey *******.

Barrie as a defensemen has outscored Kreider his entire career. Yet, you want him to be the main piece in the trade?

 

[Shootertooter]

Your post was still ridiculous...mine wasn't meant to be serious.



If by "small" you mean Zuccarello than yeah sure. Otherwise it's a terrible deal for the avs. Krieder has rocks for brains and the avs don't need anymore hockey *******.

Barrie as a defensemen has outscored Kreider his entire career. Yet, you want him to be the main piece in the trade?

If you are serious that Kreider+ Zuccarello is the price for Barrie, you keep him. Barrie has played more regular season games than Kreider and Kreider played under Torts for several seasons and didn't get a fair shot on any scoring lines as well as playing regularly. Kreider has played in 65 career playoff games compared to Barries 3. I think Kreider's stat line there is 20-13 which is very respectable for a young player. I think 1 for 1 value is very fair.

The league covets RHD puck moving defenseman, ad that is what Barrie's value centers around, Barrie is very good offensively but defensively I'd say he is average.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Your post was still ridiculous...mine wasn't meant to be serious.



If by "small" you mean Zuccarello than yeah sure. Otherwise it's a terrible deal for the avs. Krieder has rocks for brains and the avs don't need anymore hockey *******.

Barrie as a defensemen has outscored Kreider his entire career. Yet, you want him to be the main piece in the trade?

If Kreider has "rocks for brains" then Barrie is worse than Girardi defensively.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Your post was still ridiculous...mine wasn't meant to be serious.



If by "small" you mean Zuccarello than yeah sure. Otherwise it's a terrible deal for the avs. Krieder has rocks for brains and the avs don't need anymore hockey *******.

Barrie as a defensemen has outscored Kreider his entire career. Yet, you want him to be the main piece in the trade?

Kreider and Zuccarello for Barrie???? Hahahahahahaha how did I miss that one?

I don't think it's Kreider that has rocks for brains...

 

[Doriva]

Super no.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Not surprised the whole "small" Zuczarello thing went above peoples head. It's as crappy as the Krieder 1 for 1.

If you are serious that Kreider+ Zuccarello is the price for Barrie, you keep him. Barrie has played more regular season games than Kreider and Kreider played under Torts for several seasons and didn't get a fair shot on any scoring lines as well as playing regularly. Kreider has played in 65 career playoff games compared to Barries 3. I think Kreider's stat line there is 20-13 which is very respectable for a young player. I think 1 for 1 value is very fair.

The league covets RHD puck moving defenseman, ad that is what Barrie's value centers around, Barrie is very good offensively but defensively I'd say he is average.

All I see is excuses...we can speculate all day. For much of Barrie's career he spent it with Holden dragging him down and was in a hectic system under ROy. It goes both ways.

Not sure what you're trying to accomplish comparing the number of playoff games each has played.

Fact is if Barrie was on your team he'd be you're 2nd best defender. He's worth way more than an average winger who has low hockey IQ.

 

[Machinehead]

No interest in Barrie until AV is gone. He hates defensemen who move the puck.

Not trading Kreider or anything of remotely similar value for a guy who's going to sit on our third pair.

 

[blue425]

We've waited four years for Kreider to turn into what he is now.

Nope.